2019 Hobie release manana - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

Iceman · 08-28-2018, 08:39 AM

No photos but believe I saw it in the promo video. Lots of info here.

https://www.hobie.com/kayaks/mirage-outback/

Iceman · 08-28-2018, 08:45 AM

Here it is, IMO this change is HUGE with the rudder tucked under. They also include this loading device to keep the hull from sliding and scratching as you load it

absentx · 09-13-2018, 11:44 AM

Aww man this is just too much! I would say I just reached "peak" rigging awesomeness on my 2015 Outback this spring after three seasons of really working on it.

I hate to move on from it but this new one looks pretty amazing.

A few concerns though:

I use mine as a fishing/expedition kayak, sometimes spending two to eight days with it camping.
The lack of a rear storage hatch and the shrinking of the front hatch does concern me because I basically fill my hull full of camping gear and everything I need.

I am wondering if that nice round molding in the rear tray is the perfect spot to cut into and put your own eight inch round hatch in? The problem however would be if there is even ample room below it to make much sense for storage...but any little bit helps.

I also installed some rod holders and other items through the hull on the rear on my 2015 and I could access those fittings to tighten down or do maintenance on from the rear hatch...so even if storage was minimal, to be able to get an arm in there to thread on a nut etc would be nice.

The thought might be that with the rear hbars etc one might not need to add any custom holes or fittings in the rear...but cmon, customizing a kayak is like artwork, you know someone is going to do it!

YakDout · 09-13-2018, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by absentx

Aww man this is just too much! I would say I just reached "peak" rigging awesomeness on my 2015 Outback this spring after three seasons of really working on it.

I hate to move on from it but this new one looks pretty amazing.

A few concerns though:

I use mine as a fishing/expedition kayak, sometimes spending two to eight days with it camping.
The lack of a rear storage hatch and the shrinking of the front hatch does concern me because I basically fill my hull full of camping gear and everything I need.

I am wondering if that nice round molding in the rear tray is the perfect spot to cut into and put your own eight inch round hatch in? The problem however would be if there is even ample room below it to make much sense for storage...but any little bit helps.

I also installed some rod holders and other items through the hull on the rear on my 2015 and I could access those fittings to tighten down or do maintenance on from the rear hatch...so even if storage was minimal, to be able to get an arm in there to thread on a nut etc would be nice.

The thought might be that with the rear hbars etc one might not need to add any custom holes or fittings in the rear...but cmon, customizing a kayak is like artwork, you know someone is going to do it!

Keep your 2015. It will catch the same amount of fish. Kayaks are becoming like iPhones. You buy the new one and tomorrow they come out with a better one. Don’t chase it cause it’s never ending. Hold out awhile til you make an upgrade. Never know what the 2020 hobie will have....

absentx · 09-14-2018, 08:48 AM

I agree with you in some sense - but I really hope they are not becoming like iPhones.

Given that this is the Outback's first ever true redesign, I would hope this hull design would last another seven, ten, who knows years??

I mean I realize they updated it in 2015 with the new seat, but it seems to have been a pretty stable product with just minor updates from year to year.

But - I could absolutely see holding off on this new design for a model year or two while the public works out any unsuspecting quirks/problems.

YakDout · 09-14-2018, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by absentx

I agree with you in some sense - but I really hope they are not becoming like iPhones.

Given that this is the Outback's first ever true redesign, I would hope this hull design would last another seven, ten, who knows years??

I mean I realize they updated it in 2015 with the new seat, but it seems to have been a pretty stable product with just minor updates from year to year.

But - I could absolutely see holding off on this new design for a model year or two while the public works out any unsuspecting quirks/problems.

I’m not talking hull designs solely because that’s only a portion of how the kayak handles and fishes. You have to think of some of the other major upgrades that happened over the years as some were pretty major. V2 drive, GT drive, 180 drive, all in a span of a few years. New seat, now another new seat, dual steering, lowrance ready, guardian for total scan. I’m sure I’m forgetting some.

I’m not saying these aren’t solid upgrades and it’s cool they came out with them, but like iPhones, you will never have the greatest because they are already working on something better. I have a 2017 outback and see no reason to upgrade it for at least 5 years, even if they come out with some crazy new stuff.

08-28-2018, 08:39 AM	#1
Iceman Administrator Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: 1-2 miles off the point Posts: 6,948	No photos but believe I saw it in the promo video. Lots of info here. https://www.hobie.com/kayaks/mirage-outback/ __________________

08-28-2018, 08:45 AM	#2
Iceman Administrator Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: 1-2 miles off the point Posts: 6,948	Here it is, IMO this change is HUGE with the rudder tucked under. They also include this loading device to keep the hull from sliding and scratching as you load it __________________

09-13-2018, 11:44 AM	#3
absentx Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 47	Aww man this is just too much! I would say I just reached "peak" rigging awesomeness on my 2015 Outback this spring after three seasons of really working on it. I hate to move on from it but this new one looks pretty amazing. A few concerns though: I use mine as a fishing/expedition kayak, sometimes spending two to eight days with it camping. The lack of a rear storage hatch and the shrinking of the front hatch does concern me because I basically fill my hull full of camping gear and everything I need. I am wondering if that nice round molding in the rear tray is the perfect spot to cut into and put your own eight inch round hatch in? The problem however would be if there is even ample room below it to make much sense for storage...but any little bit helps. I also installed some rod holders and other items through the hull on the rear on my 2015 and I could access those fittings to tighten down or do maintenance on from the rear hatch...so even if storage was minimal, to be able to get an arm in there to thread on a nut etc would be nice. The thought might be that with the rear hbars etc one might not need to add any custom holes or fittings in the rear...but cmon, customizing a kayak is like artwork, you know someone is going to do it!

09-14-2018, 08:48 AM	#5
absentx Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 47	I agree with you in some sense - but I really hope they are not becoming like iPhones. Given that this is the Outback's first ever true redesign, I would hope this hull design would last another seven, ten, who knows years?? I mean I realize they updated it in 2015 with the new seat, but it seems to have been a pretty stable product with just minor updates from year to year. But - I could absolutely see holding off on this new design for a model year or two while the public works out any unsuspecting quirks/problems.