NOAA SURVEY-Don't Get Screwed! - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

Billy V · 07-06-2018, 11:39 AM

What's Up Guys...

Yes I'm still here although I don't post much anymore...
- but this is something that Sounds an Alarm Bell with Me and many, many more kayak/spero fisherman that fought hard during the entire MLPA/Robbery.

NOAA has mailed out thousands of letters to fisherman across the state in HOPES you fall for the trick and give them information that will be used against you - AGAIN!
-they include 2 one dollar bills in order to lull you into a false sense of security and guilt you into filling out a SURVEY which will provide details of your fishing activity in California.

Do You Remember Marine Map? When they sent out 1000 online Surveys to fisherman in hopes of collecting Your Fishing Activities in California?
- I sure Do! and then every single place that you stated you fish for a specific species was closed off to a Marine Reserve!

Please don't fall for this pathetic trick again! Guys thought they were genuinely doing good - and were Screwed Over Royally in the End with this exact data that was collected with these surveys.

I have been to Every MLPA Meeting and almost Every Science Advisory Meeting, so I stand witness to what happened first hand - along with many others from this website.

Steer Clear - the Eco-terrorists are at it again.
Junk Science Used to Screw You Over - and Steal More of Your Fishing Grounds.

Billy V

P.S. this in no way affects how I feel personally about Owen, he is a good Scientist and kayak fisherman - but a cog in the wheel of people making bad decisions.

Iceman · 07-06-2018, 12:01 PM

Wow the $2 sure is hokey!

ful-rac · 07-06-2018, 12:27 PM

We should try an experiment and say we usually fish in a spot in the middle of nowhere and see if they close it.

Billy V · 07-06-2018, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ful-rac

We should try an experiment and say we usually fish in a spot in the middle of nowhere and see if they close it.

The Flemish Cap...... but yes, that could work. It certainly couldn't hurt!

mattamatta · 07-06-2018, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ful-rac

We should try an experiment and say we usually fish in a spot in the middle of nowhere and see if they close it.

Don't burn my nowhere spot

YakDout · 07-06-2018, 12:40 PM

You should take a video ripping the two dollars in half and email it to them.

Billy V · 07-06-2018, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by YakDout

You should take a video ripping the two dollars in half and email it to them.

I'm sure the $2 establishes some kind of bullshit contract that allows them to use any information gathered as they see fit to do.

- Hell, I've transfered Real Property for Good Consideration ($1) before.

f'nsabiki · 07-06-2018, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Iceman

Wow the $2 sure is hokey!

Actually, I think it is solicitation- the offer of $2 to be able to screw you.

YTHunter · 07-06-2018, 09:57 PM

Thanks for the heads up. While we're on the subject of getting screwed... was out at LJ today and had to park a ways up Vallecito due to the crowds. Was on a slight decline and found a parking ticket waiting for me when I got back for not turning my wheels in... $63

Someone complained about the same thing happening to them in my neighborhood awhile back. So apparently this is a hot revenue generator for Kevin Faulcner and the city of SD, (yea, I spelled his name wrong. probably a ticket for that too).

BTW, these were not steep hills, but very slight inclines, so watch out.

Fishing report??? - one big sand bass, 3 calicos, and a good size stingray, all by-catch. The stingray fought just like a halibut... damn!

07-06-2018, 11:39 AM	#1
Billy V Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bay Ho Posts: 1,382	NOAA SURVEY-Don't Get Screwed! What's Up Guys... Yes I'm still here although I don't post much anymore... - but this is something that Sounds an Alarm Bell with Me and many, many more kayak/spero fisherman that fought hard during the entire MLPA/Robbery. NOAA has mailed out thousands of letters to fisherman across the state in HOPES you fall for the trick and give them information that will be used against you - AGAIN! -they include 2 one dollar bills in order to lull you into a false sense of security and guilt you into filling out a SURVEY which will provide details of your fishing activity in California. Do You Remember Marine Map? When they sent out 1000 online Surveys to fisherman in hopes of collecting Your Fishing Activities in California? - I sure Do! and then every single place that you stated you fish for a specific species was closed off to a Marine Reserve! Please don't fall for this pathetic trick again! Guys thought they were genuinely doing good - and were Screwed Over Royally in the End with this exact data that was collected with these surveys. I have been to Every MLPA Meeting and almost Every Science Advisory Meeting, so I stand witness to what happened first hand - along with many others from this website. Steer Clear - the Eco-terrorists are at it again. Junk Science Used to Screw You Over - and Steal More of Your Fishing Grounds. Billy V P.S. this in no way affects how I feel personally about Owen, he is a good Scientist and kayak fisherman - but a cog in the wheel of people making bad decisions. __________________

07-06-2018, 12:01 PM	#2
Iceman Administrator Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: 1-2 miles off the point Posts: 6,948	Wow the $2 sure is hokey! __________________

07-06-2018, 12:27 PM	#3
ful-rac Emperor Join Date: May 2009 Location: Buena Park Posts: 3,649	We should try an experiment and say we usually fish in a spot in the middle of nowhere and see if they close it. __________________ There's nothing colder than yesterday's hotdog.

07-06-2018, 12:40 PM	#6
YakDout Brandon Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: San Diego Posts: 2,345	You should take a video ripping the two dollars in half and email it to them.

07-06-2018, 09:57 PM	#9
YTHunter Carlisle Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: San Diego Posts: 206	Thanks for the heads up. While we're on the subject of getting screwed... was out at LJ today and had to park a ways up Vallecito due to the crowds. Was on a slight decline and found a parking ticket waiting for me when I got back for not turning my wheels in... $63 Someone complained about the same thing happening to them in my neighborhood awhile back. So apparently this is a hot revenue generator for Kevin Faulcner and the city of SD, (yea, I spelled his name wrong. probably a ticket for that too). BTW, these were not steep hills, but very slight inclines, so watch out. Fishing report??? - one big sand bass, 3 calicos, and a good size stingray, all by-catch. The stingray fought just like a halibut... damn!