Pro anglers and the mirage drive. - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

YakDout · 05-08-2018, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by MaskedFisherDude

I have a truck with a six foot bed. That turns to eight with the tail gate down. If I do get the 14 I will get a bed extender that connects to the hitch. I also have plans to build a PVC rack the the bed and a wood and PVC rack at home to store it. I’ve been a life long bass angler I’ve fished in tournaments and clubs since I was a kid. I did have a bass boat but sold it when I got married to have money for a down payment. Since then I’ve been fishing out of my float tube when I can. It’s just time for a upgrade. I also live in Mission Viejo and have access to the lake so I can really learn and get comfortable on the yak.

When I had a pa14, I never used a bed extender with a 6 ft bed and tailgate down. Never had a problem

MaskedFisherDude · 05-08-2018, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by YakDout

When I had a pa14, I never used a bed extender with a 6 ft bed and tailgate down. Never had a problem

That’s good to know.
Thanks.

Mahigeer · 05-09-2018, 08:56 AM

The first time I used an Outback, I did not know about how to adjust the pedal reach. It was not a good ride.

Then when I learned, it got easier. The taller you are the higher the number setting.

The legs should not be extended full without a bend in the knees.

The angle of the seat back is important too.

I think a test drive at Sunset OEX is a must first step.

jorluivil · 05-09-2018, 01:12 PM

I've owned 3 kayaks and the PA14 is by far the best one I've owned. Yes, its bulky, heavy and expensive but it’s also comfortable, it handles really well, you have a shit load of deck space and you can catch fish while you sleep. Depending on where I’m fishing, how far I’m driving and how lazy I am sometimes I opt to just throw in the back of my bed, other times I will put it on the rack, either way its pretty easy to handle. I doubt you will be disappointed with the 14 but I’m certain you will regret not buying it if you decide to go with the 12.ffice

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MaskedFisherDude · 05-09-2018, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by jorluivil

I've owned 3 kayaks and the PA14 is by far the best one I've owned. Yes, its bulky, heavy and expensive but it’s also comfortable, it handles really well, you have a shit load of deck space and you can catch fish while you sleep. Depending on where I’m fishing, how far I’m driving and how lazy I am sometimes I opt to just throw in the back of my bed, other times I will put it on the rack, either way its pretty easy to handle. I doubt you will be disappointed with the 14 but I’m certain you will regret not buying it if you decide to go with the 12.ffice

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If all goes well I will be picking up a 14 Saturday.

TCS · 05-09-2018, 07:43 PM

Why only consider the PA? Before you commit I'd suggest you test drive a revo an and outback as well. The sitting position is a little different and there are other pros and cons to consider.

MaskedFisherDude · 05-10-2018, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by TCS

Why only consider the PA? Before you commit I'd suggest you test drive a revo an and outback as well. The sitting position is a little different and there are other pros and cons to consider.

Coming from a bass boat I want to be able to stand and fish comfortably. I was able to watch a guy about my size fish the other day, watching him set the hook and the boat barley move made me think that it was the boat I’d be the most comfortable in. I also have a three year old son that I’d like to take out on the lake and peddle around with.

ceotiben · 05-09-2018, 09:14 PM

Also the seat is very important for each Hobie. I didn't like how the seat is on the Compass vs Outback+PA.

TJones · 05-10-2018, 07:58 AM

but since we are going off topic, I just bought a PA 14 from Fastlane. took it out once and loved it. I had all of the mentioned kayaks and I must agree, that the PA 14 blows away the others on open water. all around general use, the outback is the most versatile. but when loaded down, the PA because of its weight capacity IMO glides better than the outback.and yes, taking a nap on water was not an issue. pull drive, lift seat up, and spread out.

ProfessorLongArms · 05-10-2018, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Mahigeer

The first time I used an Outback, I did not know about how to adjust the pedal reach. It was not a good ride.

Then when I learned, it got easier. The taller you are the higher the number setting.

The legs should not be extended full without a bend in the knees.

The angle of the seat back is important too.

I think a test drive at Sunset OEX is a must first step.

Regarding pdeal length, I followed this advice from several other sources. 2017 new model outback. I was “bottoming out” the pedal on each stroke, and after two trips noticed that the tiny Peg that holds the split ring ( The one that holds the fin pins in place) against the body had been completely sheared off, and the split rings had been mangled.

Not sure if that’s a design flaw in this specific year model, or maybe I was just kicking too hard at the end of the full range of motion, but I switched back to a pedal setting slightly longer, and just hold back from Fully straightening my legs. Curious if anybody else has had a similar experience.

TJones · 05-10-2018, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ProfessorLongArms

Regarding pdeal length, I followed this advice from several other sources. 2017 new model outback. I was “bottoming out” the pedal on each stroke, and after two trips noticed that the tiny Peg that holds the split ring ( The one that holds the fin pins in place) against the body had been completely sheared off, and the split rings had been mangled.

Not sure if that’s a design flaw in this specific year model, or maybe I was just kicking too hard at the end of the full range of motion, but I switched back to a pedal setting slightly longer, and just hold back from Fully straightening my legs. Curious if anybody else has had a similar experience.

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YakDout · 05-10-2018, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ProfessorLongArms

Regarding pdeal length, I followed this advice from several other sources. 2017 new model outback. I was “bottoming out” the pedal on each stroke, and after two trips noticed that the tiny Peg that holds the split ring ( The one that holds the fin pins in place) against the body had been completely sheared off, and the split rings had been mangled.

Not sure if that’s a design flaw in this specific year model, or maybe I was just kicking too hard at the end of the full range of motion, but I switched back to a pedal setting slightly longer, and just hold back from Fully straightening my legs. Curious if anybody else has had a similar experience.

You should change your username to ProfessorLongLegs

05-09-2018, 01:12 PM	#4
jorluivil Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 6,856	I've owned 3 kayaks and the PA14 is by far the best one I've owned. Yes, its bulky, heavy and expensive but it’s also comfortable, it handles really well, you have a shit load of deck space and you can catch fish while you sleep. Depending on where I’m fishing, how far I’m driving and how lazy I am sometimes I opt to just throw in the back of my bed, other times I will put it on the rack, either way its pretty easy to handle. I doubt you will be disappointed with the 14 but I’m certain you will regret not buying it if you decide to go with the 12.fficeffice" />>> __________________ www.facebook.com/Teamsewer

05-10-2018, 07:58 AM	#9
TJones Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 2,526	you guys are busting up my bash session but since we are going off topic, I just bought a PA 14 from Fastlane. took it out once and loved it. I had all of the mentioned kayaks and I must agree, that the PA 14 blows away the others on open water. all around general use, the outback is the most versatile. but when loaded down, the PA because of its weight capacity IMO glides better than the outback.and yes, taking a nap on water was not an issue. pull drive, lift seat up, and spread out.

05-09-2018, 08:56 AM	#3
Mahigeer Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,910	The first time I used an Outback, I did not know about how to adjust the pedal reach. It was not a good ride. Then when I learned, it got easier. The taller you are the higher the number setting. The legs should not be extended full without a bend in the knees. The angle of the seat back is important too. I think a test drive at Sunset OEX is a must first step.

05-09-2018, 07:43 PM	#6
TCS Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 478	Why only consider the PA? Before you commit I'd suggest you test drive a revo an and outback as well. The sitting position is a little different and there are other pros and cons to consider.

05-09-2018, 09:14 PM	#8
ceotiben Junior Join Date: May 2018 Posts: 3	Also the seat is very important for each Hobie. I didn't like how the seat is on the Compass vs Outback+PA.