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[dorado50]

During the summer months when the water is warmer a constant water flow is almost a must especially for sardines. I do believe there is less oxygen in warmer water, thus constant water flow allows adequate oxygen. Timers are great for cooler/colder water as the oxygen remains in the standing water longer. Live bait needs to swim around in order to circulate water thru their gills, thus I would suggest a real bait tank in order to maximize your fishing experience.

[THE DARKHORSE]

Originally Posted by dorado50

During the summer months when the water is warmer a constant water flow is almost a must especially for sardines. I do believe there is less oxygen in warmer water, thus constant water flow allows adequate oxygen. Timers are great for cooler/colder water as the oxygen remains in the standing water longer. Live bait needs to swim around in order to circulate water thru their gills, thus I would suggest a real bait tank in order to maximize your fishing experience.

Without a doubt, you will catch more fish with quality bait. Just because your bait is still barely breathing and able to swim after living in a bait tube, doesn't justify limiting the amount of strikes you will get. A "hot bait" will get bit ten times more often, especially in slower conditions. Buy a tank or make a tank, if you want to catch more fish.

[esdees]

Tubed baits are very healthy as long as you do everything correctly:

• don't over pack
• drag at the right speed
• don't mix small baits with large ones

But if you can afford it, a bait tank is the way to go. You can throw one together using a bucket and a bilge pump for pretty cheap, or you can go all out and get a kayatank (internal bait tank). The main thing is to just get out there. Live bait is nice to have, but it is not a requirement. Good luck!

[Zed]

also what about using some stress coat. you know like for aquarium fish handling.

They're bait, not pets!

--aguachico

[THE DARKHORSE]

Originally Posted by esdees

Tubed baits are very healthy as long as you do everything correctly:

• don't over pack
• drag at the right speed
• don't mix small baits with large ones

But if you can afford it, a bait tank is the way to go. You can throw one together using a bucket and a bilge pump for pretty cheap, or you can go all out and get a kayatank (internal bait tank). The main thing is to just get out there. Live bait is nice to have, but it is not a requirement. Good luck!

I know, bait can stay alive in a bait tube "for a period of time if you follow a few simple rules". My perspective on this subject is coming from the angle of "hot bait" vs. the amount of strikes you will draw as apposed to using "bait". My personal definition of a "hot bait" : Catch a horse Sardine, and as soon as he flops of the sabiki hook, send him out on the flyline. No comparison, to the nervous speed like this to a stressed bait that has been kept in a confined area. You could propose an argument that a bait tank is a confined area also, and I would have to agree again. Each little fish is different, as some handle the stress better than others (just like people). That's all the more reason to take advantage of a quality tank, thus directly affecting how many fish you will catch (guaranteed), especially in slower conditions or when bait is plentiful.

Even with a quality bait tank, I look real close as to which baits are "lit up", and brimming with energy. Just like when I'm on a two-day trip offshore, I huddle over the tank wells the entire time, and have "my eye on the hot bait of choice", waiting for a troller to be hit. The same theory of using a "hot bait" applies to all Pelagics.

[Craig jones]

Definitely look into the kayatank, the pump is on a timer, and is inside the hull so reduced drag. I find that the bait stay healthy all day.

[esdees]

I agree that a "hot" bait is better than one that is just alive, but I don't agree that you can't get a hot bait from a bait tube.

[dorado50]

I still just can't understand why one would want to drag something submerged in the water using just a paddle to propel the craft?? I can feel the strain already and I'm not paddleling yet. I can even feel the resistence of my trolled rapala or live bait as I'm paddeling along, would not want to drag a submerged object like a four inch diameter plastic tube behind human propelled craft. "show me the logic"

[Dan]

Originally Posted by dorado50

"show me the logic"

$5 vs $150+++

AND

going for a low tech quickie at lunch are a couple of reasons I have used a tube.

but, i do love me a tank for normal fishing days.