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Old 06-08-2017, 06:19 AM   #1
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Gaff it. Rip the gills. Watch it change color as it dies. Contemplate your mortality.

You can buy a 1/0 gaff hook for like five bucks and whip it onto a broomstick. Great way to spend your afternoon at home.
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Old 06-08-2017, 06:25 AM   #2
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Don't forget the primal yell after it hits the deck.
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Old 06-08-2017, 07:10 AM   #3
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Thanks guys for the tips, especially sheephead for the super details! I do have a game clip and watched a few vids. My first kayak was 33" wide and very stable and now I have the Outback so its a little smaller but I'll manage. Yeah I didn't think of getting the game clip on when I landed a legal hali so when I tried to use my jaw pliers it freaked and shook hook off. Off to Bass Pro to get a Gaff! Thanks again
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Old 06-11-2017, 04:08 PM   #4
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Thanks guys for the tips, especially sheephead for the super details! I do have a game clip and watched a few vids. My first kayak was 33" wide and very stable and now I have the Outback so its a little smaller but I'll manage. Yeah I didn't think of getting the game clip on when I landed a legal hali so when I tried to use my jaw pliers it freaked and shook hook off. Off to Bass Pro to get a Gaff! Thanks again
Hobie Outback 33" in width?
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Old 06-08-2017, 12:15 PM   #5
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Don't forget the primal yell after it hits the deck.
Good pull! beat me to It.
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Old 06-08-2017, 01:05 PM   #6
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Take it from someone who learned the hard way. A sharp gaff and a game clip is a requirement for a halibut over 25 pounds. It can get dangerous if you don't stun them with the gaff and don't forget the teeth. Also with them put your reel into free spool so that if you miss the gaff you wont have the fish snap the line 2 seconds latter.
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Old 06-08-2017, 01:22 PM   #7
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Don't forget the primal yell after it hits the deck.
Lol all me. Then when the MF comes back to life and decides to bash its massive body back and forth in hopes of somehow freeing itself, be somehow prepared as possible Thank goodness for my gator hatch
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Old 06-08-2017, 04:18 PM   #8
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Gaff, Clip or Stringer, remove hooks, bleed and then scream if you want to. And have all of your tools at the ready before your fish hits the surface. Gaff should be in easy reach, with point protector easily removable. Clip or stringer should either be already attached to the kayak, or have a plan to quickly do so. Remove the hooks only after your fish is secured and before you work around the head for bleeding (or the next hookset might be in you).

Note: You can get away with a much more girly scream if you end up with the fish to show for it. If you scream and the unsecured fish flops off your lap and back into the water, you lose experience points.
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Old 06-08-2017, 07:53 AM   #9
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Gaff it. Rip the gills. Watch it change color as it dies. Contemplate your mortality.

You can buy a 1/0 gaff hook for like five bucks and whip it onto a broomstick. Great way to spend your afternoon at home.
This is awesome!
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Old 06-08-2017, 12:05 PM   #10
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You're going to need a gaff. You can buy on or make one. A game clip is vital as well. I always try to keep the fish well secured the whole time because one flop and you can lose a trophy.

I don't kill the fish with a knife or club. I let the fish bleed out then put it under the hatch. Of the fish you mentioned seabass and yt are easy. They come up tired and bleed out fast. Halibut are different. They come up green and pissed. Some do nothing. Others go absolutely crazy. Mike
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Old 06-09-2017, 06:27 AM   #11
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Gaff it. Rip the gills. Watch it change color as it dies. Contemplate your mortality.
[Contemplating my mortality for a moment]

I feel good on the days the fish win and live to see another day. I still get invigorating kayak exercise and enjoy the beauty of nature.
Call me a pussy, but I also like the feeling of releasing my bait when I'm done fishing. It's an uplifting moment.

I try to target what I want to eat and I try to avoid collateral damage with minimal carnage.

When the time comes, I prefer to dispatch a fish by cutting the gills in the water. Personally, I don't like clubbing.

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Its a relief to hear I'm not the only one that contemplates their mortality while watching a fellow creature die. Mike
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Its a relief to hear I'm not the only one that contemplates their mortality while watching a fellow creature die. Mike
Amen. This is the exact reason why I've never gotten into hunting. At least with fishing you can go through the actions of the "sport" and your target can live to see another day.

I'm not sure I'll ever be completely ok with killing a catch but man I would love to taste a fresh YT...
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Old 06-09-2017, 08:06 AM   #14
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Here's a technique for bleeding a halibut that might be useful to consider on a kayak. I fish with a small short-bladed emergency flip knife on an elastic lanyard around my neck that is easily accessible for this purpose.

You can usually see a natural mark or seam in this section that lines up with the pectoral fin behind the gill plate that is easy to punch and follow.

I started this clip at :45 and the point about bleeding stops at 1:25, before going on to filleting technique.

https://youtu.be/yviDaE5FO8Y?t=45s
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Old 06-09-2017, 09:18 AM   #15
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Isn't fishing a form of hunting? What makes one better morally than the other?

You can always stalk your game and purposely miss the shot or take a photo if that makes you feel more complete.

Then go to the store and buy your meat laying on a maxipad wrapped in cellophane with a date stamp.

As I get older I "feel" for the animal's/fish's lost life. To honor that animal I only take a clean shot, butcher everything myself and don't waste it.

At least a yellowtail doesn't let out a long protracted death moan like a bear does in its final moment. Talk about a sad sound.

You want to talk about contemplating ones mortality... our sport can be dangerous. I have felt relief on mutliple occassions finally
making the harbor when things turned rough or the fog/lightning rolled in quickly and unexpectedly. I'm sure we all have stories
of stupid boaters, sharks, big bull sea lions. Hell I almost got killed by a bonita (my friends all know that story).

I too release my bait at day's end.
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Isn't fishing a form of hunting? What makes one better morally than the other?

You can always stalk your game and purposely miss the shot or take a photo if that makes you feel more complete.

Then go to the store and buy your meat laying on a maxipad wrapped in cellophane with a date stamp.

As I get older I "feel" for the animal's/fish's lost life. To honor that animal I only take a clean shot, butcher everything myself and don't waste it.

At least a yellowtail doesn't let out a long protracted death moan like a bear does in its final moment. Talk about a sad sound.

You want to talk about contemplating ones mortality... our sport can be dangerous. I have felt relief on mutliple occassions finally
making the harbor when things turned rough or the fog/lightning rolled in quickly and unexpectedly. I'm sure we all have stories
of stupid boaters, sharks, big bull sea lions. Hell I almost got killed by a bonita (my friends all know that story).

I too release my bait at day's end.
He may have been referring to "catch & release" as not killing. It's a little harder to release a deer after it's shot.

I'm not a catch & release guy. I'm a catch and eat guy. I try to make use of everything I can render from a life I've taken. Yellowtail collars are amazingly delicious, and I try not to worry too much when I see them wasted by others.

If we are going to kill and eat, it's all the same, right? Morally, I think we are designed by nature to be omnivores, right? Nature itself can be ruthlessly brutal and amoral. Morals may be a human societal thing.

Prudent respect and management of natural resources makes sense to me too. Sometimes there's a problem with pests that need to be eliminated. Sometimes people are the pests.

Without morals and natural resource management, it defaults to Darwinism and natural selection. Right? When we paddle out into the ocean on a flimsy piece of plastic, we become part of the food chain.

All that philosophical stuff makes me really thirsty for a cold beer.
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Here's a technique for bleeding a halibut that might be useful to consider on a kayak. I fish with a small short-bladed emergency flip knife on an elastic lanyard around my neck that is easily accessible for this purpose.

You can usually see a natural mark or seam in this section that lines up with the pectoral fin behind the gill plate that is easy to punch and follow.

I started this clip at :45 and the point about bleeding stops at 1:25, before going on to filleting technique.

https://youtu.be/yviDaE5FO8Y?t=45s
Pics and vids are worth a thousand words. Thanks for finding the vid for me.
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Old 06-11-2017, 07:55 AM   #18
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That's a simple technique for bleeding a halibut. But I don't use knives on a kayak. Not a fan of using my legs as a cutting board.
Ripping a gill always works. Except halibut have sharp gill rakers.

But since I've been using braid I've been bringing scissors. A quick clean safe snip is my go to now. Mike
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Its a relief to hear I'm not the only one that contemplates their mortality while watching a fellow creature die. Mike
Life long Fisherman 60yrs old . I never learned to like too eat fish . Wife loves fish but only Sword-fish & Salmon and shell fish . I do like shrimp and fish tacos << strange Bahaha . I haven't killed a fish in many years , I do think it's fine to take fish to eat though . Going to chunk down the dollars this week coming , for a Hobie Outback . It will fit In My Van and be with in my weight limits for my bad back .
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