X-Factor & P15 Trident - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

forefrazier · 08-11-2008, 12:20 PM

Was wondering if there was anyone on this board who have owned or paddled extensively with these two boats? I currently own an X-Factor and am looking to upgrade to something faster. Will I notice a major difference in speed between the X and P15 Trident?

I am 6'-5" 240 so options are probably more limited than some. Looked into Hobie options but they just don't seem to have the capacity for a guy my size. I will demo any suggestions of course before making a decision to get rid of the X but looking for any input from others that might help.

Thanks,
SF

aguachico · 08-11-2008, 12:26 PM

I went from an Extreme to the Trident. Goto OEX and use the demo. It's the only way to tell. I miss my deck on the extreme, I like getting around alot easier though.

good luck and tight lines.

trob · 08-11-2008, 12:28 PM

Are you looking to buy new? Why don't you come by this week and demo the Trident. We launch our demos right off our dock so you don't have to transport anything. you can compare 2 boats and switch them out within just a couple minutes.

We will be moving almost every model (Malibu, Ocean Kayak, and possibly Tarpon) here to be available for demos soon.

Call the Pt. Loma shop to setup a day
619 758 9531

-OEX Mission Bay 1617 Quivira Rd.

Tommy

JrBasser · 08-11-2008, 01:18 PM

I own both the X-Factor and a Trident and I absolutely love the trident. The X-factor is actually my dad's boat because he wants to feel stable and nothing more. The trident however has never had any stability problems for me. While the x-factor may be more stable, its more stability than you really need, and the trident will still have enough stability to put you in your comfort level. The paddling efficiency of the trident is leagues above the x-factor, but the X-factor has better rigging options. Definitely paddle both of them. If you find you do most of your paddling in La Jolla, you'll like the trident better. If you find you spend most of your yaking hours in the bay hoopnetting lobster, well, speed doesnt really matter and you may likie the X-factor more. Definitely schedule a demo and try out both.

metalbob · 08-11-2008, 05:14 PM

I went from an X factor to a Trident because of the exact same reason. I noticed right off the bat it felt a little tippy, but after a couple of hours on the Kayak i felt right at home, stability is a non issue now and it has plenty of speed, the x factor did have a slower drift though(which i prefer) and it did have a lot more rigging options.I do miss the tankwell and rear hatch space on the X but i can get by with my Tridents tankwell.

im thinking about a rudder for the Trident.

overall im very happy with it, the rod pod is good for storing the rods below during questionable surf landings and is quite handy. and the sonar shield has been helpful for me i a few instances.

good luck!

METALBOB

SteveK · 08-11-2008, 05:37 PM

SF here's what you need.

Now you'll have more speed than the Trident, more useable room.
Check out Bassyaks.com
Bob, the solar sheild has helped you!!! That thing is a JOKE ,who ever thought that up should be fired!!! How'ed it help you --- it's behind the FF screen

Later
Steve

bluesquids · 08-11-2008, 05:41 PM

Wondering if you guys have the first generation XFactor with the smooth bottom or the 2nd generation with the ribbed bottom? I myself have noticed a pretty significant difference in performance between the two.

forefrazier · 08-11-2008, 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bluesquids

Wondering if you guys have the first generation XFactor with the smooth bottom or the 2nd generation with the ribbed bottom? I myself have noticed a pretty significant difference in performance between the two.

bsquid....I don't have any ribs on the bottom of mine...All smooth with exception the center keel portion. Didn't know there was one with ribs...Any pics?

metalbob · 08-11-2008, 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteveK

SF here's what you need.

Now you'll have more speed than the Trident, more useable room.
Check out Bassyaks.com
Bob, the solar sheild has helped you!!! That thing is a JOKE ,who ever thought that up should be fired!!! How'ed it help you --- it's behind the FF screen

Later
Steve

Try spellcheck first?

yes the" SOLAR "sheild has helped me,it hides my schlong when i gotta take a wiz and prevents it from getting sunburnedlollollolits an opinion bro...

dgax65 · 08-11-2008, 09:31 PM

You can see the channels from the inside of the hull in this picture

A little better overview here

and here

I test paddled an old X-Factor with out the channels. The hull feels more rigid with the channels. It also tracks well for a yak of its beam.

forefrazier · 08-12-2008, 07:13 AM

Thanks for posting the pics dgax. I definitely have the first gen with the smooth bottom.

08-11-2008, 12:20 PM	#1
forefrazier Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: OC Posts: 397	X-Factor & P15 Trident Was wondering if there was anyone on this board who have owned or paddled extensively with these two boats? I currently own an X-Factor and am looking to upgrade to something faster. Will I notice a major difference in speed between the X and P15 Trident? I am 6'-5" 240 so options are probably more limited than some. Looked into Hobie options but they just don't seem to have the capacity for a guy my size. I will demo any suggestions of course before making a decision to get rid of the X but looking for any input from others that might help. Thanks, SF

08-11-2008, 12:28 PM	#3
trob Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: San Marcos (now idaho) Posts: 231	Are you looking to buy new? Why don't you come by this week and demo the Trident. We launch our demos right off our dock so you don't have to transport anything. you can compare 2 boats and switch them out within just a couple minutes. We will be moving almost every model (Malibu, Ocean Kayak, and possibly Tarpon) here to be available for demos soon. Call the Pt. Loma shop to setup a day 619 758 9531 -OEX Mission Bay 1617 Quivira Rd. Tommy __________________

08-11-2008, 05:41 PM	#7
bluesquids Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Jamul, CA Posts: 243	Wondering if you guys have the first generation XFactor with the smooth bottom or the 2nd generation with the ribbed bottom? I myself have noticed a pretty significant difference in performance between the two. __________________ Thanks, bluesquids

08-11-2008, 09:31 PM	#10
dgax65 Guerro Grande Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 629	You can see the channels from the inside of the hull in this picture A little better overview here and here I test paddled an old X-Factor with out the channels. The hull feels more rigid with the channels. It also tracks well for a yak of its beam. __________________ Douglas Gaxiola Team No Fish- Amateur Staff

08-11-2008, 12:26 PM	#2
aguachico Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 719	I went from an Extreme to the Trident. Goto OEX and use the demo. It's the only way to tell. I miss my deck on the extreme, I like getting around alot easier though. good luck and tight lines.

08-11-2008, 01:18 PM	#4
JrBasser Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 260	I own both the X-Factor and a Trident and I absolutely love the trident. The X-factor is actually my dad's boat because he wants to feel stable and nothing more. The trident however has never had any stability problems for me. While the x-factor may be more stable, its more stability than you really need, and the trident will still have enough stability to put you in your comfort level. The paddling efficiency of the trident is leagues above the x-factor, but the X-factor has better rigging options. Definitely paddle both of them. If you find you do most of your paddling in La Jolla, you'll like the trident better. If you find you spend most of your yaking hours in the bay hoopnetting lobster, well, speed doesnt really matter and you may likie the X-factor more. Definitely schedule a demo and try out both.

08-11-2008, 05:14 PM	#5
metalbob King of Constipation Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: North Park Posts: 56	I went from an X factor to a Trident because of the exact same reason. I noticed right off the bat it felt a little tippy, but after a couple of hours on the Kayak i felt right at home, stability is a non issue now and it has plenty of speed, the x factor did have a slower drift though(which i prefer) and it did have a lot more rigging options.I do miss the tankwell and rear hatch space on the X but i can get by with my Tridents tankwell. im thinking about a rudder for the Trident. overall im very happy with it, the rod pod is good for storing the rods below during questionable surf landings and is quite handy. and the sonar shield has been helpful for me i a few instances. good luck! METALBOB

08-11-2008, 05:37 PM	#6
SteveK Junior Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 22	SF here's what you need. Now you'll have more speed than the Trident, more useable room. Check out Bassyaks.com Bob, the solar sheild has helped you!!! That thing is a JOKE ,who ever thought that up should be fired!!! How'ed it help you --- it's behind the FF screen Later Steve

08-12-2008, 07:13 AM	#11
forefrazier Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: OC Posts: 397	Thanks for posting the pics dgax. I definitely have the first gen with the smooth bottom.