Bug time be careful... - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

Wyota · 10-02-2016, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Yak Daddy

MB was packed. More than Ive ever seen. Some dipchit dove my hoop nets right in front of me. I was in the water diving too!

I went out of dana point and it was empty except some idiots dropping hoops in the center of the channel instead of keeping to the sides. Went outside the bay on scuba and only start hooping after commercial guys clean out all the legals outside the bay

Got 3 keepers on scuba and whiffed in a few more. Good start to the season

Chuck D · 10-03-2016, 06:56 AM

Went out opener knowing that I can't stand the crowds, but willing to deal. Went out early to claim my spot. Had to call the cops on a 30 foot boat, 8 dudes that were drinking, set on top of me, threatened to run me over, kick my ass and made multiple attempts to bully me on the water with his boat. Cops gave him a warning, over opening night. It always seems to be too much drama, this will be my last. Managed one bug before 10 other boats laid down on top of me, over it. Be safe out there...

ful-rac · 10-03-2016, 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck D

Went out opener knowing that I can't stand the crowds, but willing to deal. Went out early to claim my spot. Had to call the cops on a 30 foot boat, 8 dudes that were drinking, set on top of me, threatened to run me over, kick my ass and made multiple attempts to bully me on the water with his boat. Cops gave him a warning, over opening night. It always seems to be too much drama, this will be my last. Managed one bug before 10 other boats laid down on top of me, over it. Be safe out there...

That's a bummer Chuck...It was Busy and Crowded in my neighborhood this weekend, If you were lucky enough to get something before the fleet dropped on top of you and or the divers rolled thru your gear, you were lucky! On another note DFG was busy busting guys up here, lots of tickets written.

Make sure you guys that are new to hooping, you have all of your paperwork in order! Make sure that you fill out your card before you leave the dock and make sure you finish filling it out before you get back to the dock! And watch out for hitchhikers!

Yak Daddy · 10-03-2016, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck D

Went out opener knowing that I can't stand the crowds, but willing to deal. Went out early to claim my spot. Had to call the cops on a 30 foot boat, 8 dudes that were drinking, set on top of me, threatened to run me over, kick my ass and made multiple attempts to bully me on the water with his boat. Cops gave him a warning, over opening night. It always seems to be too much drama, this will be my last. Managed one bug before 10 other boats laid down on top of me, over it. Be safe out there...

Damn man! I would've done the same! Freakin morons out there... I went out off the point in LJ today. Came out with a keeper. Ever want to go freedive let me know.

Phishphood · 10-03-2016, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Yak Daddy

Damn man! I would've done the same! Freakin morons out there... I went out off the point in LJ today. Came out with a keeper. Ever want to go freedive let me know.

Nice! You hit it during daylight hours?

Yak Daddy · 10-04-2016, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Phishphood

Nice! You hit it during daylight hours?

Yep. Was a bit choppy & surgy but vis was good. Tomorrow supposed to pick up a lil more, but Ill be out there again probably.

DanaPT · 10-04-2016, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Wyota

I went out of dana point and it was empty except some idiots dropping hoops in the center of the channel instead of keeping to the sides. Went outside the bay on scuba and only start hooping after commercial guys clean out all the legals outside the bay

Got 3 keepers on scuba and whiffed in a few more. Good start to the season

ALso at dana. Very quiet until 12 then the boaters showed. It was rough. seas rolling. surf banging. water had foam and was murky. Never caught so many eels in my life. nasty critters. 3 traps moved into the rocks, 1 stayed behind. First pull at 1225 yielded 2 bugs nada after that.

Fish and game checked in on me after "i almost died" retrieving a net in the rocks. He said he saw my heroic net rescue. He also asked for license and wanted to measure my bugs. He made me throw one back said it was "negligibly not legal". I shined the light between the carapace and gauge and there was no gap or vertical movement. He measured I measured, HIS CONTENTION was the gauge was sliding left to right and shouldn't do that.

Back to the ocean for the next guy's stoke. The Warden didn't give me a ticket. I wasn't quite sure what to make of this.

I guess I'm lucky I didn't get shot. So all is good.

Wyota · 10-04-2016, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by DanaPT

ALso at dana. Very quiet until 12 then the boaters showed. It was rough. seas rolling. surf banging. water had foam and was murky. Never caught so many eels in my life. nasty critters. 3 traps moved into the rocks, 1 stayed behind. First pull at 1225 yielded 2 bugs nada after that.

Fish and game checked in on me after "i almost died" retrieving a net in the rocks. He said he saw my heroic net rescue. He also asked for license and wanted to measure my bugs. He made me throw one back said it was "negligibly not legal". I shined the light between the carapace and gauge and there was no gap or vertical movement. He measured I measured, HIS CONTENTION was the gauge was sliding left to right and shouldn't do that.

Back to the ocean for the next guy's stoke. The Warden didn't give me a ticket. I wasn't quite sure what to make of this.

I guess I'm lucky I didn't get shot. So all is good.

Awesome that you didn't get a ticket. Had a guy with us who has received tickets in the past for "clicker". Basically, the DFG guy would push down real hard on gauge, and if would then crack and squeeze over the carapace, even not moving at all, then it was "illegal" and he had to pay 500 bucks.

Mahigeer · 10-04-2016, 07:46 PM

I have heard of using a file to make the gage slightly wider than manufacturer.

That way there is no question that the bug is legal.

If you notice the warden will use their own gauge to measure, and not yours.

Even though you bought the gauge pre-made, you are responsible for its accuracy.

Seems like a good warden.

Did you get his name.

east county dirtbag · 10-04-2016, 08:01 PM

Looks like carrying a micrometer is a good way to protect oneself from government abuse. A ruler does not lie like a government official

ful-rac · 10-04-2016, 08:04 PM

If your gauge hooks, throw it back. I promise you'll catch another one.

Saba Slayer · 10-05-2016, 07:18 AM

"If you notice the warden will use their own gauge to measure, and not yours.

Not always true...Here is a photo of a warden using my gauge to measure the evenings catch. Once he saw my gauge he didn’t hesitate to use it.

I have back-up gauges made by Promar in the event some one looses a gauge...but my primary measuring gauge is made by Top-Me in Maine...recently Lobster Port in Oceanside started selling their own knockoff of the Top-Me gauge and it's a really good product. It’s well made of a nice thick stainless stock and has a handle off to one side. I picked up one at my seminar that I did in their shop and I’ll be using it this season.

This is a very true statement and you should all be aware of this..."Even though you bought the gauge pre-made, you are responsible for its accuracy."

DanaPT · 10-06-2016, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Mahigeer

I have heard of using a file to make the gage slightly wider than manufacturer.

That way there is no question that the bug is legal.

If you notice the warden will use their own gauge to measure, and not yours.

Even though you bought the gauge pre-made, you are responsible for its accuracy.

Seems like a good warden.

Did you get his name.

No name. All in all, a very respectful warden. I'm gonna look into a better guage and maybe even file it open. I guess be careful bring your pen and fill out your card (date, location and gear code) before you start hooping.

Mahigeer · 10-07-2016, 09:55 AM

Sound like the warden that I know. He was at Catalina, but he said he moved to north SD.

Good idea to fill the card at home.

There are lots of wrong information out there. One angler was quoting a warden (perhaps mistakenly) that every time you catch a bug, you got a put a line in the last box.

I had him read the line #6 on the lobster card, where it says "when you finish fishing for the day, then mark the card".

The thicker gauge as shown by Jim sits higher in the eye "V" so it insures a legal catch if it fits the body.

driftwood · 11-11-2016, 06:07 AM

Ruff conditions out there lately.

http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/...110-story.html

10-04-2016, 08:04 PM	#11
ful-rac Emperor Join Date: May 2009 Location: Buena Park Posts: 3,649	If your gauge hooks, throw it back. I promise you'll catch another one. __________________ There's nothing colder than yesterday's hotdog.

10-05-2016, 07:18 AM	#12
Saba Slayer Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Palos Verdes Posts: 1,872	Gauges "If you notice the warden will use their own gauge to measure, and not yours. Not always true...Here is a photo of a warden using my gauge to measure the evenings catch. Once he saw my gauge he didn’t hesitate to use it. I have back-up gauges made by Promar in the event some one looses a gauge...but my primary measuring gauge is made by Top-Me in Maine...recently Lobster Port in Oceanside started selling their own knockoff of the Top-Me gauge and it's a really good product. It’s well made of a nice thick stainless stock and has a handle off to one side. I picked up one at my seminar that I did in their shop and I’ll be using it this season. This is a very true statement and you should all be aware of this..."Even though you bought the gauge pre-made, you are responsible for its accuracy." __________________ Jim / Saba Slayer

10-07-2016, 09:55 AM	#14
Mahigeer Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,910	Sound like the warden that I know. He was at Catalina, but he said he moved to north SD. Good idea to fill the card at home. There are lots of wrong information out there. One angler was quoting a warden (perhaps mistakenly) that every time you catch a bug, you got a put a line in the last box. I had him read the line #6 on the lobster card, where it says "when you finish fishing for the day, then mark the card". The thicker gauge as shown by Jim sits higher in the eye "V" so it insures a legal catch if it fits the body. Last edited by Mahigeer; 10-07-2016 at 10:02 AM.

11-11-2016, 06:07 AM	#15
driftwood Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: SAN DIEGO Posts: 1,086	Ruff conditions out there lately. http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/...110-story.html __________________ "The secret of life? one thing just one thing only. That's what you gotta figure out" curly

10-03-2016, 06:56 AM	#2
Chuck D Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Bay Park Posts: 559	Went out opener knowing that I can't stand the crowds, but willing to deal. Went out early to claim my spot. Had to call the cops on a 30 foot boat, 8 dudes that were drinking, set on top of me, threatened to run me over, kick my ass and made multiple attempts to bully me on the water with his boat. Cops gave him a warning, over opening night. It always seems to be too much drama, this will be my last. Managed one bug before 10 other boats laid down on top of me, over it. Be safe out there...

10-04-2016, 07:46 PM	#9
Mahigeer Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,910	I have heard of using a file to make the gage slightly wider than manufacturer. That way there is no question that the bug is legal. If you notice the warden will use their own gauge to measure, and not yours. Even though you bought the gauge pre-made, you are responsible for its accuracy. Seems like a good warden. Did you get his name.

10-04-2016, 08:01 PM	#10
east county dirtbag Member Join Date: May 2016 Posts: 34	Looks like carrying a micrometer is a good way to protect oneself from government abuse. A ruler does not lie like a government official