CDFG - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

wiredantz · 09-02-2016, 07:38 AM

If the state can not collect money legally by charging us a license on our regulated fishing right.

We all know CDFW will be out a lot of money, if no one buys there fishing license, instead to control and enforce these regulation a fish tax should be imposed on people who buy fish from commercial fisherman.

Which in turn will make the market price of fish go up on the consumer side.

Or b.

The consumer should be charged the fish tax once they buy it, if exporting... then collect a tax on exporting the fish.

This extra revenue should then be made to enforce and create fish hatcheries for saltwater and freshwater.

Just my two centss.....

Deamon · 09-02-2016, 10:16 AM

Good morning Mr. Gonzalez,

Can you please forward your home address and SS# at your earliest opportunity? Thank you.

Sincerely,

Liz Orme
CA
Department of Fish & Wildlife
Law
Enforcement Division
(916)
717-9064

wiredantz · 09-02-2016, 11:50 AM

Ok so this looks to be the final answer from CDFG:

And I quote:

Hello Mr. Gonzalez,

There is no federal constitutional right to fish, the California constitutional provision you cited does not allow you to fish without a license, and if you are encountered fishing without a license, you will be cited. You may direct further inquiries to CDFW's General Counsel:

Nathan Goedde
Senior Staff Counsel
California Dept. of Fish & Wildlife
1416 Ninth Street, 12th Floor
Sacramento, CA 95814
nathan.goedde@wildlife.ca.gov

Thank you

End of quote

This will be a long battle, one that I'm not willing to fight, unless I forget my fishing license.

If I did forget my fishing license and got cited for it:

My argument would be that under the 9th ammendment,

"The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.[1]"

This means that the rights we had before US Constitution.

In my honest opinion you could argue that it's your right to feed your family. Weather or not you win is how prepared you are.

This court case says the Constitution has to be resolved in your favor, your the primary beneficiary.

Silbaugh4liberty · 09-02-2016, 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wiredantz

Ok so this looks to be the final answer from CDFG:

Hello Mr. Gonzalez,

There is no federal constitutional right to fish, the California constitutional provision you cited does not allow you to fish without a license, and if you are encountered fishing without a license, you will be cited. You may direct further inquiries to CDFW's General Counsel:

Nathan Goedde
Senior Staff Counsel
California Dept. of Fish & Wildlife
1416 Ninth Street, 12th Floor
Sacramento, CA 95814
nathan.goedde@wildlife.ca.gov

Thank you

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09-02-2016, 07:38 AM	#1
wiredantz Currently @ MLO Territory Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Under the Shadow Posts: 2,290	If the state can not collect money legally by charging us a license on our regulated fishing right. We all know CDFW will be out a lot of money, if no one buys there fishing license, instead to control and enforce these regulation a fish tax should be imposed on people who buy fish from commercial fisherman. Which in turn will make the market price of fish go up on the consumer side. Or b. The consumer should be charged the fish tax once they buy it, if exporting... then collect a tax on exporting the fish. This extra revenue should then be made to enforce and create fish hatcheries for saltwater and freshwater. Just my two centss..... __________________ Team: Disbanded You only have one chance in this life...make the right decision(s)...so you don't regret it Last edited by wiredantz; 09-02-2016 at 11:56 AM.

09-02-2016, 10:16 AM	#2
Deamon Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,972	Good morning Mr. Gonzalez, Can you please forward your home address and SS# at your earliest opportunity? Thank you. Sincerely, Liz Orme CA Department of Fish & Wildlife Law Enforcement Division (916) 717-9064 __________________ Recreational Fisherman's Catch...2% Commercial Fisherman's Catch- 98% Recreational Fishing Kayakers Catch- .00001% "The reality is that the wall was built to keep all Asians ~specifically Japanese and those that think they're japanese~ out of the U.S"

09-02-2016, 11:50 AM	#3
wiredantz Currently @ MLO Territory Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Under the Shadow Posts: 2,290	Ok so this looks to be the final answer from CDFG: And I quote: Hello Mr. Gonzalez, There is no federal constitutional right to fish, the California constitutional provision you cited does not allow you to fish without a license, and if you are encountered fishing without a license, you will be cited. You may direct further inquiries to CDFW's General Counsel: Nathan Goedde Senior Staff Counsel California Dept. of Fish & Wildlife 1416 Ninth Street, 12th Floor Sacramento, CA 95814 nathan.goedde@wildlife.ca.gov Thank you End of quote This will be a long battle, one that I'm not willing to fight, unless I forget my fishing license. If I did forget my fishing license and got cited for it: My argument would be that under the 9th ammendment, "The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.[1]" This means that the rights we had before US Constitution. In my honest opinion you could argue that it's your right to feed your family. Weather or not you win is how prepared you are. This court case says the Constitution has to be resolved in your favor, your the primary beneficiary. __________________ Team: Disbanded You only have one chance in this life...make the right decision(s)...so you don't regret it Last edited by wiredantz; 09-02-2016 at 05:17 PM.