Outback or Revolution?? - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

Vikingj · 07-02-2008, 08:43 AM

I plan to trade my Cobra Navigator XF for a new Hobie Mirage. I've tried several models and have decided on either Revolution or Outback. I will fish Dana, SanO, NewPt, and La Jolla. I need to hear from some local Hobie owners to make a final decision. Please share your thoughts (based on experience). Revolution or Outback? Pros and Cons?

Thanks in advance,

Vikingj (new member today)

steamroll · 07-02-2008, 08:55 AM

Viking,

I run a Hobie Shop in Oceanside and fish off of a Hobie as well. I tried every model and by far the Revolution is my favorite.

Revo - Pros
- Fast
- Dry
- Stable

Revo - Cons
- Less storage and mounting space than the Outback

Outback - Pros
- Incredibly Stable
- Ample storage and mounting space
- Huge tank well

Outback - Cons
- A little slower than the Revo
- Larger turning radius
- Heavier than Revo

Feel free to stop by and take my fully rigged Revolution out fishing sometime

Nate

OEX Oceanside
236 S. Coast Hwy
Oceanside Ca 92054

760-721-6195

mg2969 · 07-02-2008, 09:32 AM

I totally agree and concur with Nate's assessment.

In addition to the outback being heavier it paddles like a pig. Should you ever go out and the peddles fail you'll have a heck of a time coming in. I know, my peddles have gone out 3x probably due to user error. All 3x times it was at Cabrillo Beach (san pedro), and had to come in fighting a serious head wind off the point. Yeah it was slow but I never worried about safety. One of the times was in the middle of a tournament and 4 yakers (at least) had to be towed in because of the wind.

dsafety · 07-02-2008, 10:04 AM

I had the same questions when selecting my kayak six months ago. I went with the Revolution for all the reasons already stated plus one. My son has a paddle kayak and occasionally I like to go paddling with him. The Revo performs decently as a paddler although not as well as his Necky Dolphin.

When using this boat as a fishing platform, the only times I ever paddle are when stuck in kelp and, of course, when launching and landing.

The only complaint I have about my Revo is the lack of easily accessable dry, (sort of), storage. You learn to deal with this after a while but if I were designing a kayak similar to the Revolution, I would put in a bigger center hatch opening and mould in baffles and compartments to help keep things from sliding around out of reach.

One thing that I can say for sure, you will be happy with the Hobie mirage system, regardless of which boat you select.

Bob

bajadog · 07-02-2008, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by dsafety

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One thing that I can say for sure, you will be happy with the Hobie mirage system, regardless of which boat you select.

Bob

+1 Ditto

hobieuser · 07-02-2008, 10:24 AM

I went with Revo. due to my status. I'm 5'9 and 165, the revo. is perfect to accommodate my capacity in that regard. Make sure upgrade both rudder and fin, you'll be more happier.

mg2969 · 07-02-2008, 10:33 AM

Yeah what he said plus the drive well seals (they might come standard now, maybe not)

steamroll · 07-02-2008, 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mg2969

Yeah what he said plus the drive well seals (they might come standard now, maybe not)

Yeah, they are standard now

mrJB · 07-02-2008, 03:01 PM

Viking -
I think you would do best with a yellow plastic ducky tube with a single rod holder to store your dead sardines (for a week)!

JB

One Rev · 07-02-2008, 03:47 PM

I understand Nate and others preferring the Revo, but and it's a big butt, I'm 6'3" and weigh close to 235lbs and I paddled both the Revo and the Outback and just prefer the Outback. I have purchased two Outback's (not at the same time) and when I buy my next kayak it will be an Outback purchased from Nate. He my Budd. If space and stability is your thing then the Outback will be your choice.

Mike
One Rev

Vikingj · 07-03-2008, 09:26 PM

Thank you all (except my EX-fishing buddy, mrJB!) for your useful comments - they were very helpfull and appreciated. Need to test them out one more time before writing a check.

Wayne

07-02-2008, 08:43 AM	#1
Vikingj Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Dana Point area Posts: 438	Outback or Revolution?? I plan to trade my Cobra Navigator XF for a new Hobie Mirage. I've tried several models and have decided on either Revolution or Outback. I will fish Dana, SanO, NewPt, and La Jolla. I need to hear from some local Hobie owners to make a final decision. Please share your thoughts (based on experience). Revolution or Outback? Pros and Cons? Thanks in advance, Vikingj (new member today)

07-02-2008, 08:55 AM	#2
steamroll Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 385	Viking, I run a Hobie Shop in Oceanside and fish off of a Hobie as well. I tried every model and by far the Revolution is my favorite. Revo - Pros - Fast - Dry - Stable Revo - Cons - Less storage and mounting space than the Outback Outback - Pros - Incredibly Stable - Ample storage and mounting space - Huge tank well Outback - Cons - A little slower than the Revo - Larger turning radius - Heavier than Revo Feel free to stop by and take my fully rigged Revolution out fishing sometime Nate OEX Oceanside 236 S. Coast Hwy Oceanside Ca 92054 760-721-6195 __________________

07-02-2008, 09:32 AM	#3
mg2969 Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Long Beach / Lakewood Posts: 85	I totally agree and concur with Nate's assessment. In addition to the outback being heavier it paddles like a pig. Should you ever go out and the peddles fail you'll have a heck of a time coming in. I know, my peddles have gone out 3x probably due to user error. All 3x times it was at Cabrillo Beach (san pedro), and had to come in fighting a serious head wind off the point. Yeah it was slow but I never worried about safety. One of the times was in the middle of a tournament and 4 yakers (at least) had to be towed in because of the wind. __________________ Hobie Mirage Revolution Prowler 13 - Look ma no hands

07-02-2008, 10:04 AM	#4
dsafety Olivenhain Bob Join Date: May 2008 Location: Olivenhain, CA Posts: 1,121	It's the Revo for me. I had the same questions when selecting my kayak six months ago. I went with the Revolution for all the reasons already stated plus one. My son has a paddle kayak and occasionally I like to go paddling with him. The Revo performs decently as a paddler although not as well as his Necky Dolphin. When using this boat as a fishing platform, the only times I ever paddle are when stuck in kelp and, of course, when launching and landing. The only complaint I have about my Revo is the lack of easily accessable dry, (sort of), storage. You learn to deal with this after a while but if I were designing a kayak similar to the Revolution, I would put in a bigger center hatch opening and mould in baffles and compartments to help keep things from sliding around out of reach. One thing that I can say for sure, you will be happy with the Hobie mirage system, regardless of which boat you select. Bob

07-02-2008, 10:33 AM	#7
mg2969 Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Long Beach / Lakewood Posts: 85	Yeah what he said plus the drive well seals (they might come standard now, maybe not) __________________ Hobie Mirage Revolution Prowler 13 - Look ma no hands

07-02-2008, 10:24 AM	#6
hobieuser Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 46	I went with Revo. due to my status. I'm 5'9 and 165, the revo. is perfect to accommodate my capacity in that regard. Make sure upgrade both rudder and fin, you'll be more happier.

07-02-2008, 03:01 PM	#9
mrJB Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: O.C. Posts: 352	Viking - I think you would do best with a yellow plastic ducky tube with a single rod holder to store your dead sardines (for a week)! JB

07-02-2008, 03:47 PM	#10
One Rev Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Chula Vista, CA Posts: 65	I understand Nate and others preferring the Revo, but and it's a big butt, I'm 6'3" and weigh close to 235lbs and I paddled both the Revo and the Outback and just prefer the Outback. I have purchased two Outback's (not at the same time) and when I buy my next kayak it will be an Outback purchased from Nate. He my Budd. If space and stability is your thing then the Outback will be your choice. Mike One Rev

07-03-2008, 09:26 PM	#11
Vikingj Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Dana Point area Posts: 438	Thank you all (except my EX-fishing buddy, mrJB!) for your useful comments - they were very helpfull and appreciated. Need to test them out one more time before writing a check. Wayne