Put the mackerel out to soon. 4/8/16

[Iceman]

Wait......so WE get to decide if we are guilty or not, not the written law. Wow. People not accepting responsibility for their actions drives me fricken crazy, I consider it part of being a grown up MAN.

You are saying you have to slam into my son or daughter speeding before it is a crime. Some laws are in place to protect the law abiding citizens.

Granted the 2 rod stamp makes no sense to me, that seems you are paying for a privilege. Now 3 rods is an obvious violation.

[Silbaugh4liberty]

Originally Posted by Iceman

Wait......so WE get to decide if we are guilty or not, not the written law. Wow. People not accepting responsibility for their actions drives me fricken crazy, I consider it part of being a grown up MAN.

You are saying you have to slam into my son or daughter speeding before it is a crime. Some laws are in place to protect the law abiding citizens.

Granted the 2 rod stamp makes no sense to me, that seems you are paying for a privilege. Now 3 rods is an obvious violation.

You're confusing what I'm saying Andy. If someone hits another person then there is an injured party. That does PISS me off. My wife got hit by an unlicensed driver, non-citizen, unisured, and broke three ribs, broken femur (has a rod in her leg for the rest of her life), shattered heal, (I spent a month in the hospital sleeping on the floor next to my wife's bed)all while 4 months pregnant with my son and guess what happened ...(not a DAMN thing). Then 8 months later I got t boned and rolled 2 times down katella ave, by yet again, non-citizen, unlicensed, uninsured driver who actually had a 1 & 3 year old in their car. I walked outta that without a scratch, but a totaled car, and I was livid screaming at the cops asking why they didn't even ticket, tow his car, and they said they couldn't and would have an investigator look into it. BS! So trust me, I feel you on that note. Nothing happened because they were Non-Citizens, so they're non contractually obligate to abide by the STATUTES ie. Vehicle Code.

The point Im making is there need to be an INJURED PARTY. There isn't an injured party in this case. They'll say "its the people of the state of California". Really??? How did he injure them by having three poles?

You can be a Free Human being or Chatel slaves. I choose the former. I spent 5 years in the Marines (3 years overseas, 2 tours in Iraq), and I took an oath to support and defend the Constitution against ALL enemies foreign and DOMESTIC. So ironically, when you go into court during an Arraignment, they ask you "Do you wish to WAIVE your constitutional right to enter a plea" (whether its guilty or not guilty). Why is that? Because the courts don't operate under the Constitution. They operate under Color of Law, Admiralty Law, not under the Constitution=Law of the Land.

No Victim = No Crime

Ignorance of the law is no excuse. Get informed and learn your rights and learn how things work. That's what I consider being a man!

Live by one principle and you'll never have to worry (Do no harm). Don't harm another person, property, their rights, and you'll be okay.

[dbrogdon5]

that someone will post a pic of a short bass and people on this forum will tear them apart. But in this circumstance, people are encouraging doing the wrong thing.

next time I catch a 13.5" bass, ill just tell them it shrunk after being on the ice that will justify it.

[FISH11]

I don't understand the people on this post that are thinking there is no victim or wrong in this incident. Mitchell even admitted that he made a mistake and put out a third rod out. The two rod rule is BS on inland waterways, but being able to pay extra to even have two rods is even more stupid. Either have no limit on number of rods or just one with no financial option for more. It's as stupid in the size of a fine that does not take into account the individuals financial situation. A $500 fine to someone making $250k is not deterrent compared to the same fine to someone making $30k. Just appear in court, admit making a mistake and hope the Judge lowers the fine considerably and also hope others learn from this story. It is about accepting personal responsibility. That is unfortunately, something that a lot of parents and lawyers have taught people is not necessary anymore, making this world a lot worse off.

[kixchad]

Originally Posted by Silbaugh4liberty

You're confusing what I'm saying Andy. If someone hits another person then there is an injured party. That does PISS me off. My wife got hit by an unlicensed driver, non-citizen, unisured, and broke three ribs, broken femur (has a rod in her leg for the rest of her life), shattered heal, (I spent a month in the hospital sleeping on the floor next to my wife's bed)all while 4 months pregnant with my son and guess what happened ...(not a DAMN thing). Then 8 months later I got t boned and rolled 2 times down katella ave, by yet again, non-citizen, unlicensed, uninsured driver who actually had a 1 & 3 year old in their car. I walked outta that without a scratch, but a totaled car, and I was livid screaming at the cops asking why they didn't even ticket, tow his car, and they said they couldn't and would have an investigator look into it. BS! So trust me, I feel you on that note. Nothing happened because they were Non-Citizens, so they're non contractually obligate to abide by the STATUTES ie. Vehicle Code.

The point Im making is there need to be an INJURED PARTY. There isn't an injured party in this case. They'll say "its the people of the state of California". Really??? How did he injure them by having three poles?

You can be a Free Human being or Chatel slaves. I choose the former. I spent 5 years in the Marines (3 years overseas, 2 tours in Iraq), and I took an oath to support and defend the Constitution against ALL enemies foreign and DOMESTIC. So ironically, when you go into court during an Arraignment, they ask you "Do you wish to WAIVE your constitutional right to enter a plea" (whether its guilty or not guilty). Why is that? Because the courts don't operate under the Constitution. They operate under Color of Law, Admiralty Law, not under the Constitution=Law of the Land.

No Victim = No Crime

Ignorance of the law is no excuse. Get informed and learn your rights and learn how things work. That's what I consider being a man!

Live by one principle and you'll never have to worry (Do no harm). Don't harm another person, property, their rights, and you'll be okay.

That is just it, those laws are put into place to protect a resource that belongs to all people. So in breaking that law, there is harm. They are unfairly taking what belongs to all. It is the tragedy of the commons. What is a common resource will be exploited by the individual because the benefit to that individual is a +1 while the harm of -1 is spread out to all who have a stake in the common resource. By you argument, a poacher over limit is doing no harm. And I say most fishermen would disagree. So if you need an injured party, look to the people of California.

And your crap about the justice system being rigged does nothing for your argument.

[Silbaugh4liberty]

Well, it's Mitchell's ticket, so he can do what he wishes with it. Based on the responses, it doesn't surprise me why we've slipped out of the Top 10 countries in Freedom in such a short lifespan of this country. Just don't go crying when they expand the MLPA or extend it another 5 years without a shred of evidence or scientific proof that it even works. I'll end with this pic of a great quote to invoke some critical thinking amongst all of you.....

[jruiz]

To the king of memes

[MITCHELL]

So some can learn from my mistake you will never fish 3 poles in fresh water for the rest of your life or you will be the biggest posting Hypocrite and the next time you break the law knowingly in all areas remember this post and say I too am a guilty person

[MITCHELL]

I deleted the picture of the ticket at my end hope it deleted at your end.

[WARRIORMIKE]

Don't pay the ticket till you see the judge. Like someone mentioned, use your extensions to your advantage. See the judge and ask for a reduce fine if the officer appears. If he doesn't appear, then you might get to walk away without paying a cent. Just your time away from work.

[MITCHELL]

A big 10-4

[Ricsen]

Hi Mitchell. Aside from the previous thoughts on the citation, you might want to (or ask the mods to) edit out the photo of the actual ticket, as it contains all of your identifying information, address, phone number, etc. Probably not a good thing to have openly out on the internet with all of the ID theft and stuff going on. Just a suggestion. Your call.

[kixchad]

Originally Posted by Silbaugh4liberty

Just don't go crying when they expand the MLPA or extend it another 5 years without a shred of evidence or scientific proof that it even works.

HA. Try looking, you find plenty of evidence as to the effectiveness of marine reserves.