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Old 03-09-2016, 09:05 AM   #1
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Based on the types of failures I've seen from other users over the years and common sense, the majority of the failures result from the carts not being completely inserted into the scuppers. Loading the cart in that manner places a lot of localized leverage on the scupper. If used properly on kayaks with reinforced scuppers you shouldn't anticipate any failures.

On a related note, a damaged scupper is one of the most difficult things to repair on a kayak. Most shops, understandably so, aren't even willing to address it since the success rate is so low.
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Old 03-09-2016, 10:13 AM   #2
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Based on the types of failures I've seen from other users over the years and common sense, the majority of the failures result from the carts not being completely inserted into the scuppers......
This make sense jruiz. Fortunately, the scuppers in my outback are reinforced as well. I will make sure the cart is never partially in.

I can purchase just the wheeleez right and put them on my existing Hobie cart?
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Old 03-09-2016, 12:24 PM   #3
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The wheelez dont insert in the scupper holes. The weight of the yak is enough to hold it in place. I never strap down my yak when on the wheelz. I did make my own rails for it though.
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Old 03-09-2016, 12:48 PM   #4
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The wheelez dont insert in the scupper holes. The weight of the yak is enough to hold it in place. I never strap down my yak when on the wheelz. I did make my own rails for it though.
I have not used my new Wheelez cart yet but even going through rough terrain you dont have to strap the kayak on? Looking at the straps I know they will be way too long, I was going to look for some appropriately sized bungee cords to speed up the strapping process.
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Old 03-09-2016, 12:58 PM   #5
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I have not used my new Wheelez cart yet but even going through rough terrain you dont have to strap the kayak on? Looking at the straps I know they will be way too long, I was going to look for some appropriately sized bungee cords to speed up the strapping process.
If you are going over a rocky area you would need to strap it down. If you are hauling off/on a curb onto sand you should not need to, but you never know, your yak might be lighter than my Outback.
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Old 03-09-2016, 01:06 PM   #6
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The wheelez dont insert in the scupper holes. The weight of the yak is enough to hold it in place. I never strap down my yak when on the wheelz. I did make my own rails for it though.

Same here, I never strap the wheels to the kayak. However, having the crossbars on the cart help out tremendously.

There is no doubt that the scupper holds well but having to turn the kayak sideways to get the wheels in/out is something I'd hate to do each time I launch/land.
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Old 03-09-2016, 02:53 PM   #7
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As you can can see you have many options



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Old 03-09-2016, 03:54 PM   #8
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wow. thanks for all the input guys. I bought my yak WITH the standard Hobie cart included, so I'd like to use it. Perhaps I will get the wheeleez separately.
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Old 03-10-2016, 09:50 AM   #9
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Does anyone know if THESE wheels will work with my Hobie cart? the price is right for the pair.

https://www.harmonygear.com/products...rade-Pair.html
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Old 03-09-2016, 12:24 PM   #10
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I have the older scupper cart


I've gone through several repairs of the pvc tire as well as replacements. I've since replaced the old PVC wheel assembly with the new PU seen below. I don't anticipate any failures in the foreseeable future.
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