Hobie Outback or PA 12/14 - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

Irishman · 09-11-2015, 08:48 PM

I'm currently paddling an xfactor...fundage has fallen into my lap, so looking for input from those who made the switch...LJ is my normal haunt. Have a truck so moving it not a challenge. To those with the Outback did you regret not going PA or vice a versa. Will be looking to buy used. Really appreciate feedback on this as its a big money decision. Am 5'9, 215lbs.
Cheers

TheToxicJon · 09-11-2015, 09:01 PM

Love my pro angler , the Cadillac of fishing kayaks. Buts heavy, if you have it on top a van you will have issues by yourself. Pickup you will be fine. I'm 6'4" 275 and its hard to get off of my roof rack, but doable

Irishman · 09-11-2015, 11:22 PM

Thanks for the response....
Lads, I'm in need of objective ins and outs of PA v outback. IF you could do it again.....what would you go for?

2-Stix · 09-12-2015, 12:29 AM

I have an Outback...no regrets. Never worked a PA...nice bells and whistles but was not willing to deal with the weight. I fish off heavy beach breaks, staircases and rocky hillside loading areas in LA to Santa Cruz. I came off of a Tarpon 100. I could never image paddling again.

Hunters Pa · 09-12-2015, 04:18 AM

I am 5'11" and 150#. I have a PA14 and transport it on a GMC Envoy - the one with the retractable roof. It was a real challenge for me to put it on top so I made a couple bunks by covering some 2x4s with carpet. It is still a challenge but very doable. I also have a Trident 15 and a Scrambler

If you are keeping your x-factor I would think that a PA would fill more of the spectrum not covered by the x-factor. Peddle both and then decide

YakDout · 09-12-2015, 06:15 AM

Went from revo, to PA 14 and now on a 2015 outback. Not going to be changing kayaks anytime soon.

Maxfli123 · 09-12-2015, 11:06 AM

PA 14 would be my choice but I don't beach launch. PA has treated me well. It did take a few trips getting my legs used to the workout. Good luck with the purchase I'm sure you will be happy either way...

maquinapescado · 09-12-2015, 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YakDout

Went from revo, to PA 14 and now on a 2015 outback. Not going to be changing kayaks anytime soon.

I am pondering the same thing as the one who started this thread. What made you go from PA 14 to Outback?

MR. CLEAN · 09-12-2015, 07:23 PM

I've had a couple x-factors which were awesome yaks. I have a pa 14 and really like it. I tried a pa 12 and found that you have to make alot more steering corrections than the 14. I have a buddy who modified and installed the larger rudder on his 14 and it tracks even better yet. I also believe you will really enjoy the hands free the mirage provides you.

Rambo · 09-13-2015, 02:03 AM

If you have a truck, I'd say PA all the way. Comfort, roomy, luxury, the creme de la creme of kayak in my opinion. LJ launch is a breeze, just unload your fully rig up kayak and surf launch and enjoy some time on the water with the ability to lay back on one of the most stable kayak. You also have deck space for several fish species so you don't need to hang the fish in the water.

If storage is no issue
If your able to maneuver the kayak without help at home
Beach launch out of LJ mainly
Want more time on the water less fatigue
More accessories to mount on
Room to stand and stretch out

PA... All the way.. Any other restriction, you should go with an outback.

alanw · 09-13-2015, 10:07 AM

I too paddle an X-Factor and am getting ready to switch it up. The Lake La Jolla lounge chair should be good for you. For me, I wish they made a 14' Outback!

JohnMckroidJr · 09-13-2015, 07:10 PM

I have the PA14 and have no regrets. The outback would be a consideration if I had to launch anywhere requiring carrying without wheels.

09-11-2015, 08:48 PM	#1
Irishman Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 306	Hobie Outback or PA 12/14 I'm currently paddling an xfactor...fundage has fallen into my lap, so looking for input from those who made the switch...LJ is my normal haunt. Have a truck so moving it not a challenge. To those with the Outback did you regret not going PA or vice a versa. Will be looking to buy used. Really appreciate feedback on this as its a big money decision. Am 5'9, 215lbs. Cheers

09-12-2015, 04:18 AM	#5
Hunters Pa Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Fullerton Posts: 1,359	I am 5'11" and 150#. I have a PA14 and transport it on a GMC Envoy - the one with the retractable roof. It was a real challenge for me to put it on top so I made a couple bunks by covering some 2x4s with carpet. It is still a challenge but very doable. I also have a Trident 15 and a Scrambler If you are keeping your x-factor I would think that a PA would fill more of the spectrum not covered by the x-factor. Peddle both and then decide Last edited by Hunters Pa; 09-12-2015 at 04:19 AM. Reason: Addition

09-13-2015, 10:07 AM	#11
alanw Made in U.S.A. Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Dana Point Posts: 1,625	I too paddle an X-Factor and am getting ready to switch it up. The Lake La Jolla lounge chair should be good for you. For me, I wish they made a 14' Outback! __________________ Hobie PA 14 ¸.·´¯`·.´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸><(((º> Jackson Kraken ¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·.´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸><(((º> Malibu X-Factor ¸.·´¯`·.´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸><(((º> Malibu Stealth-12 ¸.·´¯`·.´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸><(((º> Its not a spelling B its a fishing B ~yakjoe

09-11-2015, 09:01 PM	#2
TheToxicJon Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Posts: 42	Love my pro angler , the Cadillac of fishing kayaks. Buts heavy, if you have it on top a van you will have issues by yourself. Pickup you will be fine. I'm 6'4" 275 and its hard to get off of my roof rack, but doable

09-11-2015, 11:22 PM	#3
Irishman Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 306	Thanks for the response.... Lads, I'm in need of objective ins and outs of PA v outback. IF you could do it again.....what would you go for?

09-12-2015, 12:29 AM	#4
2-Stix Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Ventura, CA Posts: 376	I have an Outback...no regrets. Never worked a PA...nice bells and whistles but was not willing to deal with the weight. I fish off heavy beach breaks, staircases and rocky hillside loading areas in LA to Santa Cruz. I came off of a Tarpon 100. I could never image paddling again.

09-12-2015, 06:15 AM	#6
YakDout Brandon Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: San Diego Posts: 2,345	Went from revo, to PA 14 and now on a 2015 outback. Not going to be changing kayaks anytime soon.

09-12-2015, 11:06 AM	#7
Maxfli123 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 116	PA 14 would be my choice but I don't beach launch. PA has treated me well. It did take a few trips getting my legs used to the workout. Good luck with the purchase I'm sure you will be happy either way...

09-12-2015, 07:23 PM	#9
MR. CLEAN Junior Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: santee Posts: 4	I've had a couple x-factors which were awesome yaks. I have a pa 14 and really like it. I tried a pa 12 and found that you have to make alot more steering corrections than the 14. I have a buddy who modified and installed the larger rudder on his 14 and it tracks even better yet. I also believe you will really enjoy the hands free the mirage provides you.

09-13-2015, 02:03 AM	#10
Rambo Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: West Covina, CA Posts: 434	If you have a truck, I'd say PA all the way. Comfort, roomy, luxury, the creme de la creme of kayak in my opinion. LJ launch is a breeze, just unload your fully rig up kayak and surf launch and enjoy some time on the water with the ability to lay back on one of the most stable kayak. You also have deck space for several fish species so you don't need to hang the fish in the water. If storage is no issue If your able to maneuver the kayak without help at home Beach launch out of LJ mainly Want more time on the water less fatigue More accessories to mount on Room to stand and stretch out PA... All the way.. Any other restriction, you should go with an outback.

09-13-2015, 07:10 PM	#12
JohnMckroidJr Senior Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: Fort Lauderdale Posts: 1,933	I have the PA14 and have no regrets. The outback would be a consideration if I had to launch anywhere requiring carrying without wheels.