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This is a really good question and Im curious to hear everyone's input. Ive heard 65 lb. braid with 30 lb. fluoro leader. Trying to go that route myself. Dunno about the mono backing.
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Murray, mono heat up and weakens pretty easily, like being run through kelp. Floro is much more abrasion resistant. Spectra, when moving cuts through kelp, thus lands more fish. So the idea the guy on the beach tried to convey to you, is right on the money. If you load your reels with spectra, and tie on a short topshot of floro, and a fish takes you into the kelp, you can either reel in, and slowly cut through the kelp; or if you are unable to reel in, loosen your drag and allow the fish to take line, thus slowly cutting through the kelp. The idea is to allow your line to keep moving, in one direction of the other, and let the spectra do it's job.
As far as small reels, todays reels are geared very differently than those Pens of yesteryear, and as such, with spectra they have very good line capacity, better and more drag capability, and with the taller gears, more torque to help fight the fish. |
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mono?
HMMM...What weight mono? Did the line snap or did you pull the hook? Did you give-up and cut it off? I have seen people pull YT from the kelp with 20-lb mono. I do prefer the braid to flouro approach myself. Keep the line moving as bubblehide says.
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Braid is awesome, not only light, thinner, stronger, but it cut through the kelp. You can feel the braid cut through the stringers as you feel the pop of each one being cut. I use 65lb braid on the entire spool and then attach a 6-8' leader of fluorocarbon in 40lb test. I tie the two using an Alberto knot (modified albright, collins) what ever you want to call it. It's just about the same knot.
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Thanks for the info guys. Any braid color and manufacturer suggestions?
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Murray, if someone doesn't cover it, I'll post up this evening, I am short on time right now. But keep in mind, it's not all about the line, you will also want a parabolic rod; I'll go over that also if someone else doesn't.
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No mono backing for me, I lost a big YT a while back with that set up. I'm certainly no expert, but 65lb braid to 40lb fluoro worked well for me.
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50lb Braid to two arms lengths of 40lb Floro.................
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Murray, most guys that fish sport boats want white or yellow spectra, so they can easily see and follow their line; a few fish blue so it blends in with the water better. But pretty much everyone uses floro topshots. Most kayak guys use green, as they want it to blend into the usually shallow waters they fish (compared to the open water sport boat fisherman); again with floro topshots.
Mono stretches, and back in the day, when everyone was fishing mono, or long mono topshots (100 yards or more) stiffer non-parabolic rods were all the rage, like the Calstar Grafighters. However, spectra does not stretch, and a short floro topshot really does not provide any stretch, so fisherman have turned to parbolic rods (Seeker happened to be on top of this while Calstar was still stuck on their Graphfighters, and subsequently gained in the market). So why is all this important, well you need some give when fighting a fish, for 2 reasons, one, it's just plan hard on you. 2, so you don't go pulling hooks; and to maintain tension when a fish thrashes it's head back and forth. So now, with short topshots, the rod is now doing what stretchy mono did. Don't get me wrong, you still want a rod with good back bone, but with a softer/slower action instead of a fast action as the Graphfighters are known for. Hope that helps. |
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I agree with what everyone has said above. I generally have all braid (power pro green) on all of my rods ranging from 20lbs to 50lbs and always have a floro leader about 6 to 10 feet. You feel every bump in the sand and the lightest bites. I will never go back to mono.
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Join Date: Nov 2013
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30lbs to 65lbs braid with a 6 to 10 foot topshot of mono 20lbs /30lbs. gives a little when they strike hard Attached with a double uni knot
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Sabiki for La Jolla
One last question guys. What color and size of sabiki is everyone using for La Jolla macs. Thanks again.
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Number 4 or 6 (4 hook) hyabusa squid sabiki. Multiple color mini squid sabiki that works.
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