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Zed · 03-06-2008, 04:39 PM

I'm sure come Monday we'll have quite a email spam-war going with the 30 involved.

But, weight is some issue. The amount of gear per person isn't unlimited. So the 5-day cooler could be at a cost of other gear. And I know we tote around a lot of gear. Since Propane is NOT allowed on the boat, I bet dry ice isn't either.

Whatever is not in/on your yak is shuttled to the site. Think 30x whatever you bring. Maybe they have a moving van, or something. I guess they have the few hours we'll be on the water to shuttle, but that's getting into Corps of Engineers type of undertaking.

Think minimal. You see how well Tman and Grego want to share space already. And Holy Mack, I'll/we'll have some pre-made batter ready. For, you know, just in case someone wants to have their big-ass fish feed the group.

Z

bluesquids · 03-06-2008, 05:09 PM

I've spoken to DFG regarding WSB possession over there. You're only allowed one in possession for the trip that time of year. Unless you consume it or gift it. You might want to release an early schooly in hopes for a bigger one later. And also plan to target other species.
You can pick up more ice in the village for the ride home.

Holy Mackerel · 03-06-2008, 07:09 PM

Don't forget to bring your pesos (dollars)....

tylerdurden · 03-06-2008, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by bluesquids

I've spoken to DFG regarding WSB possession over there. You're only allowed one in possession for the trip that time of year...

What about the multi day permit? Just curious. I know guys get them for lobsters when the do multi day hooping trips to Cat.

Here is the link, page 29:
http://www.dfg.ca.gov/marine/pdfs/oceanfish2008.pdf

Bluisquids, did you ask the warden about multiday permits? The only species this could be a problem with is wsb. If you didn't ask the warden I'll try and give dfg a call or email next week and see. I hope we get that lucky.

Handymansd · 03-06-2008, 07:32 PM

"27.15. Multi-Day Fishing Trips.
(3) A Declaration for Multi-Day Fishing Trip may not be filed for a trip unless the trip is continuous and extends for a period of 12 hours or more on the first and last days of the trip and no berthing or docking is permitted within five miles of the mainland shore."

So does that mean that we cannot apply for a Multi-day?

tylerdurden · 03-06-2008, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Handymansd

"27.15. Multi-Day Fishing Trips.
(3) A Declaration for Multi-Day Fishing Trip may not be filed for a trip unless the trip is continuous and extends for a period of 12 hours or more on the first and last days of the trip and no berthing or docking is permitted within five miles of the mainland shore."

So does that mean that we cannot apply for a Multi-day?

I'm pretty sure we can, but that is just my interpretation of the regs. My reading of them doesn't mean a thing, the wardens is what matters. Cat is >5 miles from the mainland shore. I know hoopnetters and lobster divers go to Cat on multi day trips with the permit. Again this could all be for nothing. Who knows how good or bad the fishing is going to be. Next week I'll try and actually talk to a dfg person and get some real answers instead of us trying to interpret and guess as to the meanings of the regs. Even if we can't get a multi day it's no big deal.

Handymansd · 03-06-2008, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by tylerdurden

Next week I'll try and actually talk to a dfg person and get some real answers instead of us trying to interpret and guess as to the meanings of the regs.

Wow... now why couldn't I have thought of that

!

I'll guess I could talk to DFG at Fred Hall on Sat too.

bluesquids · 03-06-2008, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by tylerdurden

Bluisquids, did you ask the warden about multiday permits? The only species this could be a problem with is wsb. If you didn't ask the warden I'll try and give dfg a call or email next week and see. I hope we get that lucky.

Yeah, I mostly called about the multi day permits. Those only apply to the days on a multi day boat.

madscientist · 03-06-2008, 09:20 PM

We'll have four guys and a multiday for Fri-Sun on the boat, so feel free to drop off any excess fish.

Donfish · 03-06-2008, 09:50 PM

I could be wrong and flame away if I am but as we are paid and have a float plan posted on a public board we should be able to keep 1 seabass per day fished in posession per angler. Multiday permits should not be required as we will only be on the water for parts of each of the days.The receipts from ferry passage and camping should suffice as legitimate fishing proof over the course of the trip.I won't be dragging 3 seabass home with me. I know alot can be left for interpetation but if my vessel has 1 wsb per angler when checked and I'm on a multiday camping trip the limit becomes 3 days of limits in posession for the duration of the trip as per dfg regs....please correct me if I am wrong.

bluesquids · 03-06-2008, 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donfish

I could be wrong and flame away if I am but as we are paid and have a float plan posted on a public board we should be able to keep 1 seabass per day fished in posession per angler. Multiday permits should not be required as we will only be on the water for parts of each of the days.The receipts from ferry passage and camping should suffice as legitimate fishing proof over the course of the trip.I won't be dragging 3 seabass home with me. I know alot can be left for interpetation but if my vessel has 1 wsb per angler when checked and I'm on a multiday camping trip the limit becomes 3 days of limits in posession for the duration of the trip as per dfg regs....please correct me if I am wrong.

One thing the DFG referred me to was section 1:17 page 22
http://www.dfg.ca.gov/marine/pdfs/oceanfish2008.pdf
One daily limit in possession weather frozen, preserved yadda yadda.
He flat out said only one daily limit at ANY time. And that technically goes all the way to your freezer. When the limit goes to 3 then you can legally have three in the freezer.
He said you don't want to be showing up at the dock with 3 WSB in your cooler from a 3 day camping trip. And a multiday permit does not jive if you are setting foot on land between days.
What I did not question was how a multiday permit DOES seem to contradict the possession rule. Unless it just overides it completely.
Here's the contact persons info I got after emailing DFG central.

Edgar W. Roberts III
Associate Marine Biologist
Recreational Fishery Data Project
California Department of Fish and Game
619 Second Street
Eureka, CA 95501
707.441.5757 Office
707.445.7883 Fax
707.599.5318 Cell
eroberts@dfg.ca.gov

Visit the Marine Region's Web Site at:
www.dfg.ca.gov/marine

03-06-2008, 05:09 PM	#2
bluesquids Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Jamul, CA Posts: 243	I've spoken to DFG regarding WSB possession over there. You're only allowed one in possession for the trip that time of year. Unless you consume it or gift it. You might want to release an early schooly in hopes for a bigger one later. And also plan to target other species. You can pick up more ice in the village for the ride home. __________________ Thanks, bluesquids

03-06-2008, 07:32 PM	#5
Handymansd Ancient Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: On The Water Posts: 935	"27.15. Multi-Day Fishing Trips. (3) A Declaration for Multi-Day Fishing Trip may not be filed for a trip unless the trip is continuous and extends for a period of 12 hours or more on the first and last days of the trip and no berthing or docking is permitted within five miles of the mainland shore." So does that mean that we cannot apply for a Multi-day? __________________ All men are equal before fish. -Herbert Hoover

03-06-2008, 09:20 PM	#9
madscientist Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,906	We'll have four guys and a multiday for Fri-Sun on the boat, so feel free to drop off any excess fish. __________________

03-06-2008, 04:39 PM	#1
Zed BANNED Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: W of 5 Posts: 1,265	I'm sure come Monday we'll have quite a email spam-war going with the 30 involved. But, weight is some issue. The amount of gear per person isn't unlimited. So the 5-day cooler could be at a cost of other gear. And I know we tote around a lot of gear. Since Propane is NOT allowed on the boat, I bet dry ice isn't either. Whatever is not in/on your yak is shuttled to the site. Think 30x whatever you bring. Maybe they have a moving van, or something. I guess they have the few hours we'll be on the water to shuttle, but that's getting into Corps of Engineers type of undertaking. Think minimal. You see how well Tman and Grego want to share space already. And Holy Mack, I'll/we'll have some pre-made batter ready. For, you know, just in case someone wants to have their big-ass fish feed the group. Z

03-06-2008, 07:09 PM	#3
Holy Mackerel Señor member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 1,627	Don't forget to bring your pesos (dollars)....

03-06-2008, 09:50 PM	#10
Donfish Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Redondo beach Posts: 31	I could be wrong and flame away if I am but as we are paid and have a float plan posted on a public board we should be able to keep 1 seabass per day fished in posession per angler. Multiday permits should not be required as we will only be on the water for parts of each of the days.The receipts from ferry passage and camping should suffice as legitimate fishing proof over the course of the trip.I won't be dragging 3 seabass home with me. I know alot can be left for interpetation but if my vessel has 1 wsb per angler when checked and I'm on a multiday camping trip the limit becomes 3 days of limits in posession for the duration of the trip as per dfg regs....please correct me if I am wrong.