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Old 10-11-2014, 04:54 PM   #1
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I'd bump up to at least 20 pound leader if specifically targeting butts. Those teeth will shred smaller line pretty quick with the head shakes. The 14 is ok for the bass in the bay though.
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Old 10-11-2014, 06:50 PM   #2
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holy crap, tiny little dink baits?! i tried using chovies once and all i got where a ton of lizard fish. i will be trying to dropper loop for them around the yellow pole area (never been there). as well as along the deep side of those wooden pole markers (the 40-50ft spot). we'll see how i do. i'll also be lobstering at night, and then fishign for the butts in the morning. we'll see how that goes with space issues lol. thanks for the tips!
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Old 10-11-2014, 07:48 PM   #3
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Will try my luck with the butts tomorrow as well. Thanks for the tip.
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Old 10-12-2014, 04:19 PM   #4
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ended up with the skunk. we got our baits raked REALLY BADLY 6 times. but those cormorants wouldn't leave us alone. and the bait barge only had some massive dines/macs with a $25 minimum purchase... and 90% of the bait died right away. oh well. maybe better luck next time. thanks for the tips though!
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Old 10-12-2014, 05:39 PM   #5
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ended up with the skunk. we got our baits raked REALLY BADLY 6 times. but those cormorants wouldn't leave us alone. and the bait barge only had some massive dines/macs with a $25 minimum purchase... and 90% of the bait died right away. oh well. maybe better luck next time. thanks for the tips though!
At Cabrillo? Were you in a boat? Has been a $10 kayak scoop for years. BTW, I love those gigantic Sardines, but freshly caught ones will tend to die in the bait tank. Or slow pumps or too many. Come to think of it, Sardines are kind of finicky. I will skip the bait barge when they don't have bait that is at least 7" (I don't like to waste my time hassling over short fish). Every short fish you bring up and release is time that a bigger bait could have stayed in the zone. Bigger baits will not eliminate shorts, but they will reduce them substantially.
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Old 10-12-2014, 10:50 PM   #6
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^^ Good advice! Always learning from you guys.
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Old 10-13-2014, 07:15 AM   #7
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ended up with the skunk. we got our baits raked REALLY BADLY 6 times. but those cormorants wouldn't leave us alone. and the bait barge only had some massive dines/macs with a $25 minimum purchase... and 90% of the bait died right away. oh well. maybe better luck next time. thanks for the tips though!



$25 for bait? You must be a really good tipper.

I spent many years buying bait from the barge and I also spent a ton of money on it. 1-2 trips a week, $9 for parking, $10-$15 for bait.......it gets expensive. Eventually, I started making my own bait, that saved me a ton of money. I was losing some fishing time in the process of making bait but I made up for it by launching earlier and getting on the bait spot at first light.

Its not uncommon to find greenbacks, Spanish macs and lizard fish in the harbor, all you need is a sabiki and a FF. It can get frustrating not being able to find bait but when you do you'll be glad you did because you just cut the cost of your fishing trip by %50 and you will have premium bait.
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