ticket for forgetting my fishing license NPH - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

JDW · 07-07-2014, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by YakDout

We all know the real reason that fishing licenses are not connected to DL right?

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Jrob · 07-07-2014, 09:26 AM

Go to court. Show the judge you had a license at the time of the incident, just not in your possession. Judge may dismiss case or reduce fine.

FISH11 · 07-07-2014, 11:37 AM

Sucks you'll have to pay a fine but as jorge posted the law says to "have it in your immidiate possession while fishing". As soon as I buy my new one I put it in the inside pastic pocket of my tackle bag. That way anytime I go fishing with or without the kayak that license is with me and also not exposed to the sun or it will turn black same as a hunting license. The good thing is it shouldn't cost you much when you show proof of the license. The reason they check is because there are a lot of people who don't buy a license. The thing I wished is when they catch those people is that they could have the proof immidiately available so they would confiscate all their gear plus give them a ticket requiring court apperance. The DFG guys are just doing their job and hopefully catching all the jerks that are fishing illegally or poching.

Vikingj · 07-07-2014, 09:08 PM

If you have the time it can be worth it going to court. I made a careless mistake and received a violation for over $500 (lobster was just legal when I measured otw but shrunk 1/32" when DF&G measured it!). It took me 3 1/2hrs to get before a judge and plead "no contest" (which is the same as "guilty" but sounds cooler). Judge charged me a fine/court cost of $125. I figured I made about $100 an hour for time spent. Good luck.

maui jim · 07-09-2014, 01:50 PM

Am I too late to make popcorn??? Damit...

jorluivil · 07-09-2014, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by maui jim

Am I too late to make popcorn??? Damit...

Hell no!!!

bus kid · 07-10-2014, 07:59 AM

A guy goes fishing on his boat early in the morning and returns in the afternoon. He leaves his tackle box rod and reel in the boat and goes and inside for the day. His wife decides to take the boat out and read a book on the water. Half an hour later a male DFG officer pulls up to her in the boat and asks to see her fishing license, she says ” I don’t fish therefore I don’t have a fishing license , I’m reading a book” the officer reply’s” you have all the proper gear for fishing and no license, if you can’t show me a license I’m going to arrest you and impound the boat.” The woman responds saying “after you arrest me and we get to the station I’m going to tell everyone that you raped me” to which the officer replied” why would you say that?” then she said “because you have all the proper equipment.”

While you may have nothing to hide you still need to be mindful of your rights and the regulations. I have been stopped by the DFW, Harbor patrol / Sheriff, Coast Guard, and even the lifeguard on both the Kayak and boat. Every time I have had all my docs together to show. I was stopped last week while fishing with my son by the Harbor patrol, the officer not only checked our catch and paper work but also did a vessel inspection, while we had nothing to hide, I still asked him questions after he was done about why he was checking our catch as he’s not a DFW officer. He simply said while he was checking to see if my son had the proper life vest he noticed our catch and though it look like we were over our limit and while he is not a DFW he still can call them and detain us until they arrive. Since I had the DFW reg book with me to show him and after he counted the fish he said good by and good luck. He gave my son a bunch of stickers and shook both of our hands. They are there to ensure not only the regulations but to keep us safe. Be respectful, keep your $hit straight and follow the rules and be aware of the situation and you will be fine.

Rambo · 08-25-2014, 06:13 PM

Took half the day off work and got to court earlier but didn't get out of the courtroom almost 2 hours later. The judge says Case Dismiss but pay the $25 administration fee after showing proof of my fishing license. Another guy before me got caught for poaching a fish undersized. $500 dollar fine for that dude but he choose to fight the case. DFG is out doing their job.

I found another way to access the fishing license if you forgot your license and have a smart phone on you. It'll show all the info the officer need so he would have no reason to write you up. Links below.

https://www.ca.wildlifelicense.com/InternetSales/

jorluivil · 08-25-2014, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Rambo

I found another way to access the fishing license if you forgot your license and have a smart phone on you. It'll show all the info the officer need so he would have no reason to write you up. Links below.

https://www.ca.wildlifelicense.com/InternetSales/

Boy, you got off easy. I would have assumed that after you went through all this you wouldn't even bother seeking an alternative to simply having your license on you. Is it really that hard? I forgot my license once, you want to know what I did? I stopped at the landing and bought a single day license.

Have you ever dealt with the public, I mean really dealt with them in a face to face type of way? Do you know why government workers have a big chip on their shoulder? Its because people don't follow rules that are as clear as day. Deal with someone face to face here and there that can't follow a rule and you'll play nice but deal with people that can't follow simple directions day after day after day and your attitude will change. What I'm trying to say is that the Warden is not going to sit around and wait for you while you to get your phone, find a website and log-in. Chances are that he'll probably be writing the ticket for not having your license while you're doing all that.

P.S.

what are you going to do if your phone is dead or if you do not have a signal?

John59 · 08-26-2014, 06:16 AM

From the OP... Please read that till the DFW showed up he thought he had his license.

They then ask for my fishing license and I look at my center storage and said "shit i must have left it in my car." I asked, can i go get since my car is near? They said nope, and bam my rod gets a bite and the DFG said to reel it in. What do you know a legal halibut. Since I don't have my license on me, they released my halibut, and handed me a ticket

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Originally Posted by jorluivil

Boy, you got off easy. I would have assumed that after you went through all this you wouldn't even bother seeking an alternative to simply having your license on you. Is it really that hard? I forgot my license once, you want to know what I did? I stopped at the landing and bought a single day license.

Have you ever dealt with the public, I mean really dealt with them in a face to face type of way? Do you know why government workers have a big chip on their shoulder? Its because people don't follow rules that are as clear as day. Deal with someone face to face here and there that can't follow a rule and you'll play nice but deal with people that can't follow simple directions day after day after day and your attitude will change. What I'm trying to say is that the Warden is not going to sit around and wait for you while you to get your phone, find a website and log-in. Chances are that he'll probably be writing the ticket for not having your license while you're doing all that.

P.S.

what are you going to do if your phone is dead or if you do not have a signal?

Rambo · 08-26-2014, 08:59 AM

I'm not saying you shouldn't carry a license when fishing, but giving others fishermen who bought fishing license to have other means of back up in case they find themselves in my situation. We are already the highest fee paying state for fishing license but if you have a smartphone or phone, just take images or screen capture of both license and digital sign in of the dfg website. Make a folder in your smart phone for fishing license so it's easy accessible.

But yes, I got off easy this time, thanks for the kind heart judge. Also in court, a digital proof is as good as printed from what the judge says.

07-07-2014, 11:37 AM	#3
FISH11 Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Pine Valley when not fishing La Jolla Posts: 2,643	Sucks you'll have to pay a fine but as jorge posted the law says to "have it in your immidiate possession while fishing". As soon as I buy my new one I put it in the inside pastic pocket of my tackle bag. That way anytime I go fishing with or without the kayak that license is with me and also not exposed to the sun or it will turn black same as a hunting license. The good thing is it shouldn't cost you much when you show proof of the license. The reason they check is because there are a lot of people who don't buy a license. The thing I wished is when they catch those people is that they could have the proof immidiately available so they would confiscate all their gear plus give them a ticket requiring court apperance. The DFG guys are just doing their job and hopefully catching all the jerks that are fishing illegally or poching. __________________ MARK ......... 2016 MALIBU X FACTOR, 2020 SOLO SKIFF (Fishing Kayak on Steroids )

07-09-2014, 01:50 PM	#5
maui jim Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Cypress, CA Posts: 789	Am I too late to make popcorn??? Damit... __________________

07-10-2014, 07:59 AM	#7
bus kid Team Keine Zugehörigkeit Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Way out there Posts: 2,854	A guy goes fishing on his boat early in the morning and returns in the afternoon. He leaves his tackle box rod and reel in the boat and goes and inside for the day. His wife decides to take the boat out and read a book on the water. Half an hour later a male DFG officer pulls up to her in the boat and asks to see her fishing license, she says ” I don’t fish therefore I don’t have a fishing license , I’m reading a book” the officer reply’s” you have all the proper gear for fishing and no license, if you can’t show me a license I’m going to arrest you and impound the boat.” The woman responds saying “after you arrest me and we get to the station I’m going to tell everyone that you raped me” to which the officer replied” why would you say that?” then she said “because you have all the proper equipment.” While you may have nothing to hide you still need to be mindful of your rights and the regulations. I have been stopped by the DFW, Harbor patrol / Sheriff, Coast Guard, and even the lifeguard on both the Kayak and boat. Every time I have had all my docs together to show. I was stopped last week while fishing with my son by the Harbor patrol, the officer not only checked our catch and paper work but also did a vessel inspection, while we had nothing to hide, I still asked him questions after he was done about why he was checking our catch as he’s not a DFW officer. He simply said while he was checking to see if my son had the proper life vest he noticed our catch and though it look like we were over our limit and while he is not a DFW he still can call them and detain us until they arrive. Since I had the DFW reg book with me to show him and after he counted the fish he said good by and good luck. He gave my son a bunch of stickers and shook both of our hands. They are there to ensure not only the regulations but to keep us safe. Be respectful, keep your $hit straight and follow the rules and be aware of the situation and you will be fine. __________________ Não alimente os trolls------------Don't feed the trolls---------------インタネット荒らしを無視しろ

07-07-2014, 09:26 AM	#2
Jrob Junior Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 10	Go to court. Show the judge you had a license at the time of the incident, just not in your possession. Judge may dismiss case or reduce fine.

07-07-2014, 09:08 PM	#4
Vikingj Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Dana Point area Posts: 438	If you have the time it can be worth it going to court. I made a careless mistake and received a violation for over $500 (lobster was just legal when I measured otw but shrunk 1/32" when DF&G measured it!). It took me 3 1/2hrs to get before a judge and plead "no contest" (which is the same as "guilty" but sounds cooler). Judge charged me a fine/court cost of $125. I figured I made about $100 an hour for time spent. Good luck.

08-26-2014, 08:59 AM	#11
Rambo Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: West Covina, CA Posts: 434	I'm not saying you shouldn't carry a license when fishing, but giving others fishermen who bought fishing license to have other means of back up in case they find themselves in my situation. We are already the highest fee paying state for fishing license but if you have a smartphone or phone, just take images or screen capture of both license and digital sign in of the dfg website. Make a folder in your smart phone for fishing license so it's easy accessible. But yes, I got off easy this time, thanks for the kind heart judge. Also in court, a digital proof is as good as printed from what the judge says.