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Old 05-25-2014, 10:17 PM   #1
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I'm tired of sucking up eel grass, whale semen, and whatever else is floating around in LJ...So I found a solution on here.
I know this has been done before, but I remember the previous post had the mesh screen inside the end of bottom black piece. I thought this method was much more easy to do instead trying to form and shove the mesh inside the black piece. Works great!

Its a great design but it sucks..................speaking from experience of course.

I did something very similar and had such bad results that I decided to leave it as it was built. The problem with this idea is that now every little piece of trash, weed, grass, etc. that could have simply run through the tube past the impeller and into the tank will be help up at the screen. One piece will turn into two, two into three and so on and so forth and before you know....BLOCKAGE

Again, its a great design/idea but the reality is that it will only work until small particles start to jam up against the screen. I'm speaking from experience and nothing else. I've got a few things that I'm working on to help prevent weeds and crap from being sucked into the pump...........I'll peep you posted.
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Old 05-26-2014, 09:59 AM   #2
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Its a great design but it sucks..................speaking from experience of course.

I did something very similar and had such bad results that I decided to leave it as it was built. The problem with this idea is that now every little piece of trash, weed, grass, etc. that could have simply run through the tube past the impeller and into the tank will be help up at the screen. One piece will turn into two, two into three and so on and so forth and before you know....BLOCKAGE

Again, its a great design/idea but the reality is that it will only work until small particles start to jam up against the screen. I'm speaking from experience and nothing else. I've got a few things that I'm working on to help prevent weeds and crap from being sucked into the pump...........I'll peep you posted.
Good call, I was kinda worried about that. I've been lucky so far. I took it to the bay through a bunch of eel grass. My pump was fine but my buddy's pump got clogged. Only used it once in LJ, no issue yet. I was thinking about making a some larger holes in the mesh and hopefully smaller stuff can get through. Thanks for the response, I'll keep testing idea's as well
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Old 06-11-2014, 07:04 AM   #3
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Found this baby cup holder to be very useful for any kayaker or proangler owner. The clamps open about 3inch max and has a powerful rubberize clamping. Not to mention it's plastic so no rust to worry about. It comes with 2 cup holder and a twist know to tighten the clamp to a bar handle or any part of the kayak that is less than 3inch. For $7 it's cheap and can be your great add on to any kayak that need drink holder.

Here's an example.
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Old 06-11-2014, 08:20 AM   #4
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Found this baby cup holder to be very useful for any kayaker or proangler owner. The clamps open about 3inch max and has a powerful rubberize clamping. Not to mention it's plastic so no rust to worry about. It comes with 2 cup holder and a twist know to tighten the clamp to a bar handle or any part of the kayak that is less than 3inch. For $7 it's cheap and can be your great add on to any kayak that need drink holder.
Nice I'll have to see if this will work on my Mk x factor thanks for the idea


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Old 06-11-2014, 11:58 AM   #5
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Good call, I was kinda worried about that. I've been lucky so far. I took it to the bay through a bunch of eel grass. My pump was fine but my buddy's pump got clogged. Only used it once in LJ, no issue yet. I was thinking about making a some larger holes in the mesh and hopefully smaller stuff can get through. Thanks for the response, I'll keep testing idea's as well
I have just used simple screen door mesh. I replace it every time I head out. Its cheap and takes 1 minute to do. I found that if I left it on and there was some gunk on it from a previous trip it would clog easier.
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Old 07-03-2014, 09:53 PM   #6
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Good call, I was kinda worried about that. I've been lucky so far. I took it to the bay through a bunch of eel grass. My pump was fine but my buddy's pump got clogged. Only used it once in LJ, no issue yet. I was thinking about making a some larger holes in the mesh and hopefully smaller stuff can get through. Thanks for the response, I'll keep testing idea's as well
Seems like blocked intake is easier to resolve than clogged pump.

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Old 07-03-2014, 11:07 PM   #7
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Seems like blocked intake is easier to resolve than clogged pump.

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If small debris is jammed up against the mesh how are you going to get it out?
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Old 07-04-2014, 08:16 AM   #8
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If small debris is jammed up against the mesh how are you going to get it out?
Well, I could try removing the intake assembly from the livewell and blowing back through it, and shake it underwater. Worst case I would need to take the end off.

Hell, the whole intake assemblies cost less than $8. You could carry two if it was giving you a lot of trouble.

Although I agree that if you are going to put mesh over the intake, then the approach of putting it at the very front/outside, rather than an inch inside would probably be less likely to get blocked and easier to clean, although more work to install.

One could probably use something like the stainless steel drain strainer at the bottom of the scupper, rather than in the intake.

Maybe this is not really necessary. Are you suggesting that if the intake gets blocked it will burn out the pump? Otherwise, it does seem better to be safe than sorry.
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Old 07-04-2014, 09:47 AM   #9
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Well, I could try removing the intake assembly from the livewell and blowing back through it, and shake it underwater. Worst case I would need to take the end off.

Hell, the whole intake assemblies cost less than $8. You could carry two if it was giving you a lot of trouble.

Although I agree that if you are going to put mesh over the intake, then the approach of putting it at the very front/outside, rather than an inch inside would probably be less likely to get blocked and easier to clean, although more work to install.

One could probably use something like the stainless steel drain strainer at the bottom of the scupper, rather than in the intake.

Maybe this is not really necessary. Are you suggesting that if the intake gets blocked it will burn out the pump? Otherwise, it does seem better to be safe than sorry.

My approach is much simpler. Yes the screens get plugged up and there is not much you can do to prevent this. Rather than try to prevent this problem, I have discovered an easy and quick way to unplug a blockage.

I keep a little piece of plastic pipe in my tank that easily fits into the intake hose inside my tank, (see photo).
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Whenever something gets plugged up, I simply insert the pipe in the hose and blow some air through the system. If you need to quickly prime the pump, just suck a little water back and you are good to go.

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Old 07-04-2014, 03:18 PM   #10
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simple fix....

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The nylon lint traps are the way to go. about $2 for two and a zip tie. no fuss, no worries, and more importantly no clogs.

Another adjustment for the bait tank is an extension to the out-flow. This allows the tank to fill an additional 1-2 inches. I stow it in the bait tank. When I need more water in the tank I slide it on.
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Old 07-09-2014, 01:29 PM   #11
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After fishing, I generally pull down to the end of the ramp rather than risk a heart attack pulling my loaded PA14 back to the lot. The PA slides easily onto my roof rack -- TOO easily. On a steeper than usual ramp once, it almost slid all the way off, onto my hood and then nosefirst onto the ramp. I also needed a way to protect the paint on my Highlander's spoiler. Here are my two solutions:

To protect the spoiler and help keep the PA from sliding off sideways, I glued ans screwed two short pieces of scrap 2x2 to an old cutting board (plywood woul work as well) and then bent two strips of steel strapping into squared-off hooks to slip around the rear crossbar. Here's that innovation: (Excuse the pre-dawn lighting)



Then, to keep the kayak from moving forward - or sideways in crosswinds - I cut another piece of wood into a tapered shape to loosely match the mirage drive well and bolted it to the front crossbar.



Now, I can rest the nose of the PA between the two cutting board guide rails, lift the stern and simply slide the 'yak forward until the drive hole drops onto the front safety block.

I then remove the cutting board, tie the 'yak down with straps and two front ropes.



Voila! That PA isn't going anywhere!
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Old 07-11-2014, 11:49 AM   #13
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To protect the spoiler and help keep the PA from sliding off sideways, I glued ans screwed two short pieces of scrap 2x2 to an old cutting board (plywood woul work as well) and then bent two strips of steel strapping into squared-off hooks to slip around the rear crossbar. Here's that innovation: (Excuse the pre-dawn lighting)

Does the cutting board lay flat against the roof and spoiler distrubituing the weight, or is there a block under the front of the board to keep the weight off of the spoiler?
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Its a great design but it sucks..................speaking from experience of course.

I did something very similar and had such bad results that I decided to leave it as it was built. The problem with this idea is that now every little piece of trash, weed, grass, etc. that could have simply run through the tube past the impeller and into the tank will be help up at the screen. One piece will turn into two, two into three and so on and so forth and before you know....BLOCKAGE

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I too tried that route using many configurations, screen at the top, bottom, inside and out. Each one had similar results, I am back to an open tube.
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The cutting board simply lays flat, CP. The spoiler is stronger than I feared, apparently, because it doesn't sag a bit when I lower the 'yak onto it.
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Old 07-24-2014, 08:45 PM   #16
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Fine tuned livewell

Thought I would share this fix for the hobie livewell. I have about 2 years on this fix with no problems other than the screen getting clogged once and a while.

The check valve disperses the flow witch helps keep the bait from getting jammed in the corner. Also keeps water + scales from flowing back and getting jammed in the impeller when it gets shut off.

The screen keeps the crud out.
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