Hard earned hali - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

Deamon · 05-10-2014, 01:32 PM

Nice butt! I helped a buddy pump out his yak after we go it on shore... Took two of us w the hand pumps FOREVER to get it empty. I can't imagine doing it from another yak or God forbid, while in the water alone. Good stuff to share. It'll make me get that bow hatch double strapped from now on...Jim

GregAndrew · 05-10-2014, 02:14 PM

A great reminder to know your kayak, think about what could happen and plan your actions. Knowing how to approach pumping out your yak from the water, and having the pump accessible from that position is very important. They get a lot more unstable with some water inside,(and a lot more prone to taking on more water) so your best position for pumping one out may be in the water. High profile kayaks like the PAs can present some real difficulty to that. Lots of people still think they can just go under and lift it like a canoe, but it does not work that way. This is every bit as important as knowing how to remount your yak if you are going out alone. In very severe cases (your yak is about to sink) you can try to intentionally turn it upside down. Then breathe deep breaths into a hatch from beneath, or use a hose from your bait tank to help replace water with air inside your yak before trying to turn it over (better too much than too little).

janines.fishtales@cox.net · 05-10-2014, 07:26 PM

SD Bay (beer) is a big body of water (beer?). You have wind (beer), chop (more beer), and big big military vessels (more beer) and the chop they make! Seriously, it is a bay, it is not a lake. Anything can happen out there, I'm glad you had help, and it seems a reality check too. Nice (BEEERRRR!) 'but too!

Take care buddy,

J

dorado50 · 05-10-2014, 08:13 PM

Its a good thing Harbor Patrol didn't come by, you could possibly be behind bars right now!. Too much beer...bad things can and do happen on the water as a result!

taggermike · 05-11-2014, 07:51 AM

That sucks. A PA is still a kayak and susceptible to flipping. I don't want to sound like an ass hole but ever one should practice righting and surfing their kayak with out gear, no matter what type. A while back a buddy of mine flipped out in the middle of SD Bay. He is a strong swimmer and life long surfer but had no idea how to right his kayak. I helped him with his gear and talked him through the re-entry. I've given kayak tours to total newbies on the east and west coast and seen plenty of roll overs. Find a pool or go on down to Tidelands Park and practice. No surprise is the best surprise. This video is pretty good. Mike
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8skBpGsNNp4

roadx · 05-11-2014, 12:23 PM

re-entering on a PA is difficult because of it's width.
i have pretty long arms and i couldnt reach across the mid section and find anything to grab to get leverage to flip it over. i tried the scupper holes and transducer port and still not enough leverage.
they get extremely heavy with water in them.
i may make i rope a foot or so long with a handle attached to the grab bar.
then i will be able to grab the far side of the yak and have more leverage to flip it.

GregAndrew · 05-11-2014, 01:00 PM

You might want to make the rope a bit longer so you can toss it across the middle of your upside down yak while you move to the other side to pull it. Somewhere in easy reach and not likely to slide back off the side it is attached to. A knot in the proper location should allow you to pull it over? A sturdy rod or paddle leash might double as a pull cord.

Siebler · 05-11-2014, 01:15 PM

http://www.kayakfishingsupplies.com/...-Rescue/Detail

While in most cases these are not "needed" on a PA it could definitely help much more than other kayaks I believe. Watch end of the product video for righting a flipped kayak. Easy.

05-10-2014, 07:26 PM	#3
janines.fishtales@cox.net Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 555	I'm glad you're ok... SD Bay (beer) is a big body of water (beer?). You have wind (beer), chop (more beer), and big big military vessels (more beer) and the chop they make! Seriously, it is a bay, it is not a lake. Anything can happen out there, I'm glad you had help, and it seems a reality check too. Nice (BEEERRRR!) 'but too! Take care buddy, J __________________ Fishtales

05-11-2014, 12:23 PM	#6
roadx . Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 1,155	re-entering on a PA is difficult because of it's width. i have pretty long arms and i couldnt reach across the mid section and find anything to grab to get leverage to flip it over. i tried the scupper holes and transducer port and still not enough leverage. they get extremely heavy with water in them. i may make i rope a foot or so long with a handle attached to the grab bar. then i will be able to grab the far side of the yak and have more leverage to flip it. __________________

05-11-2014, 01:15 PM	#8
Siebler Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Richland Oregon Posts: 1,547	http://www.kayakfishingsupplies.com/...-Rescue/Detail While in most cases these are not "needed" on a PA it could definitely help much more than other kayaks I believe. Watch end of the product video for righting a flipped kayak. Easy. __________________ CJ Siebler Last edited by Siebler; 05-11-2014 at 01:21 PM.

05-10-2014, 01:32 PM	#1
Deamon Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,972	Nice butt! I helped a buddy pump out his yak after we go it on shore... Took two of us w the hand pumps FOREVER to get it empty. I can't imagine doing it from another yak or God forbid, while in the water alone. Good stuff to share. It'll make me get that bow hatch double strapped from now on...Jim

05-10-2014, 02:14 PM	#2
GregAndrew Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 2,384	A great reminder to know your kayak, think about what could happen and plan your actions. Knowing how to approach pumping out your yak from the water, and having the pump accessible from that position is very important. They get a lot more unstable with some water inside,(and a lot more prone to taking on more water) so your best position for pumping one out may be in the water. High profile kayaks like the PAs can present some real difficulty to that. Lots of people still think they can just go under and lift it like a canoe, but it does not work that way. This is every bit as important as knowing how to remount your yak if you are going out alone. In very severe cases (your yak is about to sink) you can try to intentionally turn it upside down. Then breathe deep breaths into a hatch from beneath, or use a hose from your bait tank to help replace water with air inside your yak before trying to turn it over (better too much than too little).

05-10-2014, 08:13 PM	#4
dorado50 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: La Jolla Shores Posts: 1,626	Its a good thing Harbor Patrol didn't come by, you could possibly be behind bars right now!. Too much beer...bad things can and do happen on the water as a result!

05-11-2014, 07:51 AM	#5
taggermike Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Chula Vista Posts: 1,589	That sucks. A PA is still a kayak and susceptible to flipping. I don't want to sound like an ass hole but ever one should practice righting and surfing their kayak with out gear, no matter what type. A while back a buddy of mine flipped out in the middle of SD Bay. He is a strong swimmer and life long surfer but had no idea how to right his kayak. I helped him with his gear and talked him through the re-entry. I've given kayak tours to total newbies on the east and west coast and seen plenty of roll overs. Find a pool or go on down to Tidelands Park and practice. No surprise is the best surprise. This video is pretty good. Mike http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8skBpGsNNp4

05-11-2014, 01:00 PM	#7
GregAndrew Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 2,384	You might want to make the rope a bit longer so you can toss it across the middle of your upside down yak while you move to the other side to pull it. Somewhere in easy reach and not likely to slide back off the side it is attached to. A knot in the proper location should allow you to pull it over? A sturdy rod or paddle leash might double as a pull cord.