The Banana is Back

[alanw]

Originally Posted by socal_matt

The Fish Count for Today was:
1 Starry RF (cut up for bait)
4 Barberpole RF (1 released)
7 Red Snapper

Am I right in thinking the one RF you used for bait counts towards your daily bag limit, so 11 RF = poaching?

[socal_matt]

Originally Posted by alanw

Am I right in thinking the one RF you used for bait counts towards your daily bag limit, so 11 RF = poaching?

The law states you cannot have more than 10 Rockfish in your possession per day. By the time I caught my last fish, all the cut up rockfish was gone, I basically released it, just in multiple pieces. Overall, if that rockfish were to count, then the other few small ones I threw back would've counted too. Its about how many you keep, not how many you happen to hook, and I didn't keep that cut up rockfish. At no time on my kayak today, did I have more than my legal limit of rockfish. Sorry for the long winded explanation, I just don't like being told that I'm breaking the law, nor would anyone else like being told that either.

[buddha]

Originally Posted by socal_matt

The law states you cannot have more than 10 Rockfish in your possession per day. By the time I caught my last fish, all the cut up rockfish was gone, I basically released it, just in multiple pieces. Overall, if that rockfish were to count, then the other few small ones I threw back would've counted too. Its about how many you keep, not how many you happen to hook, and I didn't keep that cut up rockfish. At no time on my kayak today, did I have more than my legal limit of rockfish. Sorry for the long winded explanation, I just don't like being told that I'm breaking the law, nor would anyone else like being told that either.

I am not a game warden but to me that just doesn't sound right. Lets say it was 10 fish that you cut up but didn't keep. You only kept 10. That makes it sound a lot worse but in your logic you would be legal.

Whether it is one fish or 10 extra that you killed or cut up, to me that should count toward your limit.

If anyone knows differently please educate me.

[socal_matt]

Originally Posted by buddha

I am not a game warden but to me that just doesn't sound right. Lets say it was 10 fish that you cut up but didn't keep. You only kept 10. That makes it sound a lot worse but in your logic you would be legal.

Whether it is one fish or 10 extra that you killed or cut up to me that should count toward your limit.

If anyone knows differently please educate me.

If I'm wrong, then I'm wrong. I'll admit my error. That was just my perception of the law.

My feeling is that you live and learn; and if I'm wrong this was a good learning experience and will hopefully keep me out of trouble in the future.

[alanw]

Originally Posted by socal_matt

The law states you cannot have more than 10 Rockfish in your possession per day.

The regulations don't just say possess more than 10, they references "Take and Possession". Take is defined as:

1.80.
TAKE
.
Hunt, pursue, catch, capture or kill fish, amphibians, reptiles, mollusks, crustaceans
or invertebrates or attempting to do so.

Originally Posted by socal_matt

By the time I caught my last fish, all the cut up rockfish was gone, I basically released it, just in multiple pieces.

I think it's a really big stretch to call releasing something in multiple pieces the same as releasing.

Originally Posted by socal_matt

Overall, if that rockfish were to count, then the other few small ones I threw back would've counted too. Its about how many you keep, not how many you happen to hook, and I didn't keep that cut up rockfish. At no time on my kayak today, did I have more than my legal limit of rockfish. Sorry for the long winded explanation, I just don't like being told that I'm breaking the law, nor would anyone else like being told that either.

I'm not DFG and I don't mean to bust your balls. I just saw something that didn't sound right to me.



Some supporting info I've found:

26. Is it legal to use saltwater finfish for bait?

Yes, provided that the fish was taken legally (meets minimum size requirements, seasons, etc.). This fish that will be used for bait does count towards the individual's daily bag and possession limit for that species.



Use of sanddabs & small rockfish as bait...

Question: I fish the ocean waters off Mendocino and Humboldt counties from a sport boat and target lingcod and other groundfish. My question is, can I use live sanddabs and small black and blue rockfish to catch lingcod?

Answer: Yes, you can catch these species to then use for bait in ocean waters as long as they are all taken and possessed legally. All seasons, bag and size limits apply, even if your catch is used as bait for lingcod, etc. The rockfish must be counted toward your RCG Complex bag limit.

[socal_matt]

Originally Posted by alanw

Some supporting info I've found:

26. Is it legal to use saltwater finfish for bait?

Yes, provided that the fish was taken legally (meets minimum size requirements, seasons, etc.). This fish that will be used for bait does count towards the individual's daily bag and possession limit for that species.



Use of sanddabs & small rockfish as bait...

Question: I fish the ocean waters off Mendocino and Humboldt counties from a sport boat and target lingcod and other groundfish. My question is, can I use live sanddabs and small black and blue rockfish to catch lingcod?

Answer: Yes, you can catch these species to then use for bait in ocean waters as long as they are all taken and possessed legally. All seasons, bag and size limits apply, even if your catch is used as bait for lingcod, etc. The rockfish must be counted toward your RCG Complex bag limit.

This is very enlightening. Did not realize all of this. Thanks for pointing out my mistakes.

[NEEFFF]

Hey, Was that you out there Sat? I was in an Olive Outback.I Thought u were Vincent

[NEEFFF]

my Mistake, (Sunday)

[socal_matt]

Originally Posted by NEEFFF

Hey, Was that you out there Sat? I was in an Olive Outback.I Thought u were Vincent

Ya that was me. That was pretty funny when you called me Vince, cuz I know Vince, he mostly fishes off a boat now.

Did you catch much?

[William Novotny]

Good to see you out again. When we fishing? We can share honey holes

[NEEFFF]

Originally Posted by socal_matt

Ya that was me. That was pretty funny when you called me Vince, cuz I know Vince, he mostly fishes off a boat now.

Did you catch much?

hahah my bsad, I thought u were Vince, Since i used to always see him out in NP He also Rides a yellow scramble ri think and Wears the Face Shield too haha

i ended up with Limits on the Rockfish, Bunch of croakers, One Big sandbass (released) & a Nice sized Sole