Dana Point Hoopin' 3/2

[StinkyMatt]

Ok boys, listen up!





I think that what you did last night was pretty dumb.

You knew that we have a major storm in town.

Waves are breaking over the wall.

The harbor patrol ( people that probably know the water much better than you) tell you that it is very dangerous and you shouldn't be there.

You are stubborn and go out there anyways.

You are out at night.

You were solo ( post did not mention company)

You flip your kayak.......



Because of incidents like this, people that like to control others start looking at shutting stuff down.

Your ass was lucky that you were able to climb back in your yak and not get hurt or loose any gear.


Just wait for the sign at the launch...."no kayaks past dusk....penal code.$&@$&@"








Sorry, but that was a bone head move.



My two cents.

[ful-rac]

Lobster doesnt taste that good...really!

Lucky your still alive...let alone have all your gear....

[Big T]

So.... I don't normally get into arguments or lash-outs on the internet or anything, but I don't appreciate getting called Dumb or a bone head. Not to mention a boy. That is more appropriately done to my face. Which nobody ever does. You don't know me from Adam (but he's a prick too) and you have NO idea how TAME what I did last night was compared to what I do on a normal basis.

Yes, I am lucky that nothing "bad" happened. I took the risk. And I don't feel it was dumb or a bone head move in the least bit. Risky... yes. Dumb and unprepared, no. To each his own. The same as a white water kayaker takes a risk. Same as any other person that does anything takes a risk just walking out the door. I think launching in sketchy La Jolla surf is way more dangerous than what I did last night. Many more incidents, injuries and way more people doing it.... At night.... Solo. Are they dumb? Bone Heads? Boys? I have gotten quite a bang on the head from landing in ankle-slapper surf but never EVER been injured or even scared for that matter in 10'+ swells.

You're too scared to do it. So be it. Don't go. And your fear of whatever night/storm restrictions they implement on kayakers is your own paranoia.

I've been going out in rough weather for the bugs for a decade. Either on a boat or a kayak. Rarely have an issue. If I do... and I do. I'm prepared and accept the consequences. Consequences that are far minimized by knowledge of the ocean, safety equipment and sense of adventure.

MY $.02

You're right ful-Rac! It really doesn't! But the accomplishment does.

[ful-rac]

Your lucky that nothing bad happened???

Getting flipped in 10ft+ swells at night....sounds bad to me...you sound like one extreme dude!

Glad you made it back!

[DennisMorgan]

this is a great string which is exposing how we are all different. There are differences in each of us. Most all of us enjoy safety first fishing and some like a bit of dirty weather and then there's the extreme like our buddy CJ who gets an adrenaline rush from challenging himself with super surge and waves and sets that scare the hell out of most of us while setting his traps in nasty !@#$ weather. Much like people that surf 40+ waves or scuba in caves it a challenge.... it is done to challenge yourself and experience extreme conditions. we have to remember we are all anglers who love our sport, I suggest we support the extreme and the normal. It is what makes us a community. I appreciate CJ's energy. Let's always recommend safety first but when one of us challenges themselves physically, mentally and the gear they have let's support.
Keep fishing hard and keep supporting your brethren gents! One California kayak fishing community,,,,,thousands of different anglers

[bosshoss]

Originally Posted by DennisMorgan

this is a great string which is exposing how we are all different. There are differences in each of us. Most all of us enjoy safety first fishing and some like a bit of dirty weather and then there's the extreme like our buddy CJ who gets an adrenaline rush from challenging himself with super surge and waves and sets that scare the hell out of most of us while setting his traps in nasty !@#$ weather. Much like people that surf 40+ waves or scuba in caves it a challenge.... it is done to challenge yourself and experience extreme conditions. we have to remember we are all anglers who love our sport, I suggest we support the extreme and the normal. It is what makes us a community. I appreciate CJ's energy. Let's always recommend safety first but when one of us challenges themselves physically, mentally and the gear they have let's support.
Keep fishing hard and keep supporting your brethren gents! One California kayak fishing community,,,,,thousands of different anglers

Well said !!!!!

[walrus]

Very well said. X2

[Big T]

Originally Posted by DennisMorgan

this is a great string which is exposing how we are all different. There are differences in each of us. Most all of us enjoy safety first fishing and some like a bit of dirty weather and then there's the extreme like our buddy CJ who gets an adrenaline rush from challenging himself with super surge and waves and sets that scare the hell out of most of us while setting his traps in nasty !@#$ weather. Much like people that surf 40+ waves or scuba in caves it a challenge.... it is done to challenge yourself and experience extreme conditions. we have to remember we are all anglers who love our sport, I suggest we support the extreme and the normal. It is what makes us a community. I appreciate CJ's energy. Let's always recommend safety first but when one of us challenges themselves physically, mentally and the gear they have let's support.
Keep fishing hard and keep supporting your brethren gents! One California kayak fishing community,,,,,thousands of different anglers

Well said Dennis. Well Said.

I for one know that ALL of the "negative" comments are really just concerned fellow anglers that thought what I was doing wasn't what they would recommend. THAT I appreciate. All I didn't appreciate was being called Dumb, Bone Headed and immature. I served eight years in your military doing SOME REALLY DUMB SHIT (on your scale of Dumb). In places I HAD to go. Doing things I didn't think I should be doing. A storm and a swell? Please. Cake walk.

Like I said. I'm done. I will do this again. And I appreciate being in your all's concerns. I really hope we can all be friends... even if I am a crazy motherfucker.

[DennisMorgan]

I'm a former Marine CJ and know the need for challenge. Let's just do it right and invite our fellow kayakers to join when the challenge is fair....fish well...Semper Fi

[Dannowar]

Originally Posted by Big T

Well said Dennis. Well Said.

I for one know that ALL of the "negative" comments are really just concerned fellow anglers that thought what I was doing wasn't what they would recommend. THAT I appreciate. All I didn't appreciate was being called Dumb, Bone Headed and immature. I served eight years in your military doing SOME REALLY DUMB SHIT (on your scale of Dumb). In places I HAD to go. Doing things I didn't think I should be doing. A storm and a swell? Please. Cake walk.

Like I said. I'm done. I will do this again. And I appreciate being in your all's concerns. I really hope we can all be friends... even if I am a crazy motherfucker.

[Bennyblanco]

Originally Posted by DennisMorgan

this is a great string which is exposing how we are all different. There are differences in each of us. Most all of us enjoy safety first fishing and some like a bit of dirty weather and then there's the extreme like our buddy CJ who gets an adrenaline rush from challenging himself with super surge and waves and sets that scare the hell out of most of us while setting his traps in nasty !@#$ weather. Much like people that surf 40+ waves or scuba in caves it a challenge.... it is done to challenge yourself and experience extreme conditions. we have to remember we are all anglers who love our sport, I suggest we support the extreme and the normal. It is what makes us a community. I appreciate CJ's energy. Let's always recommend safety first but when one of us challenges themselves physically, mentally and the gear they have let's support.
Keep fishing hard and keep supporting your brethren gents! One California kayak fishing community,,,,,thousands of different anglers

Thanks for understanding, you may see me on my jet ski out there on a rainy day going to Catalina and May call me dum ass. But it's a hell of rush if you ask me. I challenge myself many times. And I'm very confident on how far I can swim 5-10 miles , BUT there's things that. Happend and you have no control over. God bless our fellow kayaker.

[alanw]

Most badass I've been is realizing at the launch that I forgot my cellphone, and I went out anyway. I did have my VHF though

["jjcawjj"]

I Hate when That happen!!! Not a fun time when you get ROLLED!!! thanks for sharing!

[dorado50]

Originally Posted by StinkyMatt

Ok boys, listen up!





I think that what you did last night was pretty dumb.

You knew that we have a major storm in town.

Waves are breaking over the wall.

The harbor patrol ( people that probably know the water much better than you) tell you that it is very dangerous and you shouldn't be there.

You are stubborn and go out there anyways.

You are out at night.

You were solo ( post did not mention company)

You flip your kayak.......



Because of incidents like this, people that like to control others start looking at shutting stuff down.

Your ass was lucky that you were able to climb back in your yak and not get hurt or loose any gear.


Just wait for the sign at the launch...."no kayaks past dusk....penal code.$&@$&@"








Sorry, but that was a bone head move.



My two cents.

Being that close to structure with those huge incoming swells....he's lucky to be telling the tell!

[ctfphoto]

Wow, Harsh.


I like the taste of fish way more than Lobster, so why do I do it, for the adventure ......


My wife thought I was crazy going out last night. I told her about possible lightning and she's like, Really!!!!!!

I just laughed as I knew I would be safe. Safety is always a major concern.

I remember last fall paddling into very high winds in La Jolla. My friend kept warning me about the wind, I just laughed it off as the white caps got bigger and bigger. A big one came over the bow and I'm like hmmm, I guess he is right so we turned around and started in.

I was in San Diego last night and the conditions were bad, but it sounded much worse at Dana. I do not know the area so I do not know what call I would have made on going out or not.

Have fun but be safe.

[StinkyMatt]

I had time to consider my post....


Looking at it again...I now see that you did everything right.



Sorry for the mistake on my part.



Please keep doing what you are doing.





How could I have been so insensitive to your needs for adventure.






A big favor to ask: please call the news crew from ch.7 next time you go out for adventures. We could all learn how it's supposed to be done.





The words boy dumb ass, and bone head move were not an attack but rather an attempt to illustrate the foolishness of the actions you described.

[jruiz]

I don't think anyone is questioning your right to seek adventure. We just don't think it's worth the thousands of dollars spent and possible lives lost when the people who told you that you shouldn't go have to rescue you. I highly doubt your float you have with your loved ones is to not report your disappearance as your willing to face the consequences. The reality is if you don't make it home people will be dragged into a dangerous situation just for your right to seek adventure.

[walrus]

In today's UT is a article about a sheriff's search at Lake Sutherland for a kayak fisherman missing since 1:30 PM yesterday. His kayak was found floating upside down. He's reported to be experienced and was known to fish there often.

Apparently he knew what he was doing, made a personal choice, and went fishing in bad weather. I feel sad for his family and the sudden loss of one they love.

[alanw]

Yea that's sad for his family. They found his body today. He had heart problems and a pacemaker, no idea if that had anything to do with it. Take a buddy or don't go!