Ares Armor

[StinkyMatt]

We the people elect "those" people.

Maybe some of us are not part of the majority "we".






Cali may not be the best environment for gun owners....I think we all know that.
Get used to it, otherwise you will become very frustrated.

Or move.

[alanw]

WOW. The ATF has a raid planned on Ares Armor and is threatening to shut them down if they don't hand over the names of the customers they sold a new type of 80% lowers to. 80%'s aren't illegal and there's no law saying you have to tell the government about your home-built weapons. ATF is deciding that these new 80%'s are illegal. Lets see where this goes.

http://fox5sandiego.com/2014/03/12/g...#axzz2vp5sScOR

[Carp]

Originally Posted by alanw

WOW. The ATF has a raid planned on Ares Armor and is threatening to shut them down if they don't hand over the names of the customers they sold a new type of 80% lowers to. 80%'s aren't illegal and there's no law saying you have to tell the government about your home-built weapons. ATF is deciding that these new 80%'s are illegal. Lets see where this goes.

http://fox5sandiego.com/2014/03/12/g...#axzz2vp5sScOR

This has happened before with previous 80% ar15 style lowers.
Back in the day all you had to do was drill a few holes (no milling) and thread the buffer tube.

It seems when 80% receivers get to mainstream the ATF decides to change the rules.

Now w/ that being said each manufacture of 80% lowers has to send a sample to the ATF for evaluation if the ATF rubber stamps it an 80% lower then it's good. Any changes to an existing "approved lower" ie material then it's all for approval again.

I hope everything works out for ares they really are great guys.

[Hondatom]

Support them with business and with your voice. Be vocal in your support of all that is 2nd amendment.
If you fail to stand for their rights just because it does not seam to affect you. It will only be a matter if time before your rights will be taken from you.
Our government is on a witch hunt for guns that the government is afraid of. Why would a government be afraid of guns? Because guns prevent the government from becoming too powerful.
Remember, Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely! When you surrender your guns to the government, the government has absolute power!

A well regulated Militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed.

It is written in plain English! It is our right to keep and bear arms.

[alanw]

Originally Posted by Carp

It seems when 80% receivers get to mainstream the ATF decides to change the rules.

Now w/ that being said each manufacture of 80% lowers has to send a sample to the ATF for evaluation if the ATF rubber stamps it an 80% lower then it's good. Any changes to an existing "approved lower" ie material then it's all for approval again.

That's the problem, Ares started selling a new type of "jigless" lower that has never been approved. ATF says they are illegal but it's too late, Ares has already sold thousands of them. Now ATF wants the names of those people that purchased the illegal lowers from Ares.

[sandydiego]

Originally Posted by StinkyMatt

We the people elect "those" people.

Maybe some of us are not part of the majority "we".

Cali may not be the best environment for gun owners....I think we all know that.
Get used to it, otherwise you will become very frustrated.

Or move.

Matt. Really? What happened to the second amendment? Our for fathers fought tyranny so that we can be free people. WE have the right to bear arms. "This get used to it" is CR*P. Look at the fishing situation it's the same "we" that think a fishing pole is just like a gun. They are both tools. you can do bad things with both. A citizen has the right to own a gun and a fishing pole, a peasent cannot.

Right to bear arms: any arms, as long as you are a law abiding USA citizen.

When the sh*t hits the fan, The first thing that everyone wants is a firearm. The second is food.

Please feel free to become a citizen. Even in Cali

Cheers!

Steve