Big calico baits - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

William Novotny · 10-10-2013, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Raskal311

$15-20 for one? Dahhhmmmm!

Any shimano baits are gonna run you back that much but they produce and dont tear up like plastics do. Its semi topwater and weedless so your chance of losing it is less then with plastics and with prices on plastics going up its actually not a bad investment.

Raskal311 · 10-10-2013, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by William Novotny

Any shimano baits are gonna run you back that much but they produce and dont tear up like plastics do. Its semi topwater and weedless so your chance of losing it is less then with plastics and with prices on plastics going up its actually not a bad investment.

Most of the times I loose them because I forget to put the reel in free spool and the line snaps while trying to cast.

William Novotny · 10-10-2013, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Raskal311

Most of the times I loose them because I forget to put the reel in free spool and the line snaps while trying to cast.

Haha well at least your not throwing roman made "mother"s. Those baits are like 500 bucks apiece haha

blitzburgh · 10-10-2013, 02:42 PM

Kevin are you fishing these on straight braid? That's the only way I fish mine

Raskal311 · 10-10-2013, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by blitzburgh

Kevin are you fishing these on straight braid? That's the only way I fish mine

No with about 6 feet of floro; normally 12lbs when fishing for bass.

William Novotny · 10-10-2013, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Raskal311

No with about 6 feet of floro; normally 12lbs when fishing for bass.

For swimbaits I fish 55# diawa samurai braid. Its smoother then most braids and quieter too. I would never put mono between my reel and anyrhing worth more then 15 bucks haha

makobob · 10-10-2013, 03:25 PM

Calicos, Big Calicos, BIGGEST CALICOS!
Baja or Bust 2014 has Asuncion as it's 1st trip. We should be back home and posting by the 8th of Jan. Some of us oldtimers will be fishing the Calicos hard. Rumor has it that 20-25 inch fish are common and the Sandies get pretty big too, and some Calicos up to 30+" being caught every year. Story is they swim down there and die of old age! Time will tell. I am taking my fly rod. Might get lucky! Want to see how many I can release in a day. Big calicos are awesome, YT on the other hand get to be tiring when you get to your mid 60's one a day is enough for me. Tight lines and bloody gaffs! And please feel free to join us on this or any one of OUR trips!!!

YakDout · 10-10-2013, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by makobob

Calicos, Big Calicos, BIGGEST CALICOS!
Baja or Bust 2014 has Asuncion as it's 1st trip. We should be back home and posting by the 8th of Jan. Some of us oldtimers will be fishing the Calicos hard. Rumor has it that 20-25 inch fish are common and the Sandies get pretty big too, and some Calicos up to 30+" being caught every year. Story is they swim down there and die of old age! Time will tell. I am taking my fly rod. Might get lucky! Want to see how many I can release in a day. Big calicos are awesome, YT on the other hand get to be tiring when you get to your mid 60's one a day is enough for me. Tight lines and bloody gaffs! And please feel free to join us on this or any one of OUR trips!!!

Sounds awesome. I got a couple 9lb + calico on the yoyo my last baja trip

YakDout · 10-10-2013, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by William Novotny

For swimbaits I fish 55# diawa samurai braid. Its smoother then most braids and quieter too. I would never put mono between my reel and anyrhing worth more then 15 bucks haha

That's probably why you had the extra cash for the PA ..I need to learn from this haha

makoslayer · 10-11-2013, 12:57 AM

when i was in cali I would throw 7 inch gulps, usually jerk shad. or the large size hammer shads.

YakDout · 10-11-2013, 05:57 AM

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Originally Posted by blitzburgh

Kevin are you fishing these on straight braid? That's the only way I fish mine

You're still getting bit when ties straight to the braid? I would think that would have an affect on your hook up ratio. Maybe not?

Raskal311 · 10-11-2013, 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by YakDout

You're still getting bit when ties straight to the braid? I would think that would have an affect on your hook up ratio. Maybe not?

Yeah I was worried about the same thing, especially when i'm running bright yellow braid.

blitzburgh · 10-11-2013, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by YakDout

You're still getting bit when ties straight to the braid? I would think that would have an affect on your hook up ratio. Maybe not?

Yes Sir! They designed the Waxwing to be fished on straight braid. What I have found is when they're on the chew it almost doesn't matter with line type or size even. When they're finicky though, I'll dial back my size and go with flouro or mono and a different, less pricey bait. But as William said, with baits like the Waxwing or similar in $, it's striaght braid homie

YakDout · 10-11-2013, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by blitzburgh

Yes Sir! They designed the Waxwing to be fished on straight braid. What I have found is when they're on the chew it almost doesn't matter with line type or size even. When they're finicky though, I'll dial back my size and go with flouro or mono and a different, less pricey bait. But as William said, with baits like the Waxwing or similar in $, it's striaght braid homie

Roger that. Makes sense.

William Novotny · 10-11-2013, 01:21 PM

When I do run a leader I bulk it up to 30#. Like when im jigging a lucanus jig shimano recomends running braid to a minimum of 7' mono to avoid tangles and for better abrasion resistance around rough structure...
Wade ive heard good things about zman products and how long they last. I was refering to the big hammers, mc viejos and other weak plastics that are going through the roof price wise. They are not worth the money aby more imo

wade · 10-11-2013, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by William Novotny

Any shimano baits are gonna run you back that much but they produce and dont tear up like plastics do. Its semi topwater and weedless so your chance of losing it is less then with plastics and with prices on plastics going up its actually not a bad investment.

This is your swimbait.
This is your swimbait on Calico.

http://youtu.be/RqArwwrgT7M

(These Plastic Swimbaits are brand new never rigged.
These ElaZtech Swimbaits have been fished many times, many fish, many nicks and cuts, hook tears rerigged & still the ElaZtech bait wont propagate a tear like plastic does..

makobob · 10-11-2013, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by wade

This is your swimbait.
This is your swimbait on Calico.

http://youtu.be/RqArwwrgT7M

(These Plastic Swimbaits are brand new never rigged.
These ElaZtech Swimbaits have been fished many times, many fish, many nicks and cuts, hook tears rerigged & still the ElaZtech bait wont propagate a tear like plastic does..

I've got a bunch on order for my Asuncion trip in Jan. will let you all know how they stand up to BIG Calicos!

taggermike · 10-14-2013, 08:23 AM

I don't have much patience for fishing calicos in deeper water and mostly fish em in the summer when they're up on top. For top water stuff I like the jumbo slugs type plastics. When the kelp is pulled down just a foot or so below the surface a big light iron, tady 45, candy bar, salas 7x, can produce big fish. Again, its a surface summer thing but you can get a surface iron way back over the kelp and really cover the area. Also with the slugs and light iron you get to see some massive blow ups. Mike

kaya_one · 10-14-2013, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by wade

This is your swimbait.
This is your swimbait on Calico.

http://youtu.be/RqArwwrgT7M

(These Plastic Swimbaits are brand new never rigged.
These ElaZtech Swimbaits have been fished many times, many fish, many nicks and cuts, hook tears rerigged & still the ElaZtech bait wont propagate a tear like plastic does..

I'd buy 'em.

Siebler · 10-14-2013, 05:03 PM

One of the most popular Big Calico baits by far are the MC Slug or the old 7-9" Sluggos if you can find them.

10-10-2013, 02:42 PM	#4
blitzburgh Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Menifee Posts: 2,509	Kevin are you fishing these on straight braid? That's the only way I fish mine __________________ ”The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it.” ~Thomas Jefferson.........maybe

10-10-2013, 03:25 PM	#7
makobob Baitless on Baja Join Date: May 2013 Location: Vista California, Gonzaga, San Quintin, Asuncion, Mag Bay Posts: 4,250	Calicos, Big Calicos, BIGGEST CALICOS! Baja or Bust 2014 has Asuncion as it's 1st trip. We should be back home and posting by the 8th of Jan. Some of us oldtimers will be fishing the Calicos hard. Rumor has it that 20-25 inch fish are common and the Sandies get pretty big too, and some Calicos up to 30+" being caught every year. Story is they swim down there and die of old age! Time will tell. I am taking my fly rod. Might get lucky! Want to see how many I can release in a day. Big calicos are awesome, YT on the other hand get to be tiring when you get to your mid 60's one a day is enough for me. Tight lines and bloody gaffs! And please feel free to join us on this or any one of OUR trips!!! __________________ http://www.mako-ville.com Home 760-630-4470 Cell 760-520-2514 YES YOU CAN

10-11-2013, 12:57 AM	#10
makoslayer Senior Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: Coronado Posts: 234	when i was in cali I would throw 7 inch gulps, usually jerk shad. or the large size hammer shads. __________________ *http://www.fishyakhunt.com* Stealth 14 (Sand Camo)

10-11-2013, 01:21 PM	#15
William Novotny The carpetbagger Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: tha newps Posts: 1,474	When I do run a leader I bulk it up to 30#. Like when im jigging a lucanus jig shimano recomends running braid to a minimum of 7' mono to avoid tangles and for better abrasion resistance around rough structure... Wade ive heard good things about zman products and how long they last. I was refering to the big hammers, mc viejos and other weak plastics that are going through the roof price wise. They are not worth the money aby more imo __________________ "The charm of fishing is that it is the pursuit of what is elusive but attainable, a perpetual series of occasions for hope." http://www.badinfluencetattoo.com/gallery.php?artist=21

10-14-2013, 05:03 PM	#20
Siebler Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Richland Oregon Posts: 1,547	One of the most popular Big Calico baits by far are the MC Slug or the old 7-9" Sluggos if you can find them. __________________ CJ Siebler

10-14-2013, 08:23 AM	#18
taggermike Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Chula Vista Posts: 1,589	I don't have much patience for fishing calicos in deeper water and mostly fish em in the summer when they're up on top. For top water stuff I like the jumbo slugs type plastics. When the kelp is pulled down just a foot or so below the surface a big light iron, tady 45, candy bar, salas 7x, can produce big fish. Again, its a surface summer thing but you can get a surface iron way back over the kelp and really cover the area. Also with the slugs and light iron you get to see some massive blow ups. Mike