LJ 8/19 - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

Tman · 08-20-2007, 09:19 AM

Ya Matt, thanks for giving the lad a Spaniard. Thought he had gotten it lost to the kelp, got it back and the head was crushed. Chit.

Was supposed to be the lads first solo trip, ended up going out in the tandem, lad brought a paddle and wanted to help out, that was the easiest paddling I've ever done. Had one guy in a yak ask me how long I've had the trolling motor, told him 4 years now, just got it working...lol lol lol

Had something follow my lure to the yak, turned off at the yak and just got a glimpse of a tail.

Glassy, fun day fishing, not catching. Thanks again Matt, owe you a cold one or two...

sdjiricek · 08-20-2007, 08:03 PM

I've only managed to get out to la Jolla 4 times in a year and am still unfamiliar
with the area. I'm familiar with the condo and the kelp bed closest to shore (right off the boomers break). I also know where the pier and the boundaries of the reserve are. I am however at a loss as to where the NW corner, the horseshoe kelp, best couple places to make bait (besides the pier), and what is meant by "outside" (how far off the edge of the kelp "outside" really is). It seems a lot of fish are caught "outside" but I have no reference as far as bottom structure, depth, or relationship to shore landmarks. How far, what direction, how deep, and how long it should take to get to a point given an even, brisk paddle (in my case a pedal since I have the hobie outback)? Thanks in advance for the advice.

nmbrinkman · 08-21-2007, 08:58 AM

The NW corner is in about 110' of water outside of the NWern most point of the kelp. The SW corner is about 1.5 nautical miles south of that. Other than the pier, there aren't any go to spots for bait. Over submerged kelp and on the edges of a floating kelp forests are good places to try and look for bait. This is were a fishfinder is worth it's weight in gold. Sometimes you'll finding popping on the surface as well. Lately I've been finding bait about 15'-25' below the surface.. When I say outside I mean anything west of Point La Jolla, but that's just my interpretation...

madscientist · 08-21-2007, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by nmbrinkman

Other than the pier, there aren't any go to spots for bait.

hmmmm.....I beg to differ. There are multiple spots that consistently hold bait. The can, the hump, canyon edges, etc. A blind devotion to the pier is not always the most economical or productive approach.

Inside usually refers to anything inside of the line that extends straight out from the face of the big square condo.

I usually refer to the first corner as the spot just past that, where the thick kelp is now. Also pretty close to what some call "the half". NW corner is a mile further SW, about 3 miles from the launch, usually identifiable as where the boats are stacked up.

nmbrinkman · 08-21-2007, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by madscientist

hmmmm.....I beg to differ. There are multiple spots that consistently hold bait. The can, the hump, canyon edges, etc. A blind devotion to the pier is not always the most economical or productive approach.

Didn't mean to give the idea that the pier was the only place to go but I would say throughout the year it is the most productive single spot. Although it has been slow for a while now.. Bait can also almost always be found in spots along the kelp.. unfortunetely that is a lot of kelp line to search.

madscientist · 08-21-2007, 01:40 PM

I think I went to the pier about 2% of the time my first year, and I always found bait in less time than it would have taken me to go all the way to the pier and then back out. There are other single spots that are just as good, if you spend the time to find them (the reef out from the condo, in 75ft, for instance). And having a series of pretty consistent spots is sometimes better than an all or nothing at the pier. All of the spots (pier included) are subject to changes with the seasons, water conditions, and who knows what other factors.

nmbrinkman · 08-21-2007, 02:19 PM

Don't get me wrong.. I 100% agree about the pier. I only occasionally go there and never rely on it... I as well have some productive spots. I'm sure not as many as you but they're usually productive nonetheless.. It's not hard to find bait most of the time.. It's just time OTW that will put you on bait without really having to think about it...

08-20-2007, 09:19 AM	#1
Tman BRTF...bought & paid... Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,247	Ya Matt, thanks for giving the lad a Spaniard. Thought he had gotten it lost to the kelp, got it back and the head was crushed. Chit. Was supposed to be the lads first solo trip, ended up going out in the tandem, lad brought a paddle and wanted to help out, that was the easiest paddling I've ever done. Had one guy in a yak ask me how long I've had the trolling motor, told him 4 years now, just got it working...lol lol lol Had something follow my lure to the yak, turned off at the yak and just got a glimpse of a tail. Glassy, fun day fishing, not catching. Thanks again Matt, owe you a cold one or two... __________________ Adios Tman Gaffer for Clay the Fishcatcher

08-20-2007, 08:03 PM	#2
sdjiricek Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Ramona, Ca. Posts: 44	let me pick your brains for a moment. I've only managed to get out to la Jolla 4 times in a year and am still unfamiliar with the area. I'm familiar with the condo and the kelp bed closest to shore (right off the boomers break). I also know where the pier and the boundaries of the reserve are. I am however at a loss as to where the NW corner, the horseshoe kelp, best couple places to make bait (besides the pier), and what is meant by "outside" (how far off the edge of the kelp "outside" really is). It seems a lot of fish are caught "outside" but I have no reference as far as bottom structure, depth, or relationship to shore landmarks. How far, what direction, how deep, and how long it should take to get to a point given an even, brisk paddle (in my case a pedal since I have the hobie outback)? Thanks in advance for the advice.

08-21-2007, 01:40 PM	#6
madscientist Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,906	I think I went to the pier about 2% of the time my first year, and I always found bait in less time than it would have taken me to go all the way to the pier and then back out. There are other single spots that are just as good, if you spend the time to find them (the reef out from the condo, in 75ft, for instance). And having a series of pretty consistent spots is sometimes better than an all or nothing at the pier. All of the spots (pier included) are subject to changes with the seasons, water conditions, and who knows what other factors. __________________

08-21-2007, 08:58 AM	#3
nmbrinkman Work Sucks! Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: San Diego Posts: 559	The NW corner is in about 110' of water outside of the NWern most point of the kelp. The SW corner is about 1.5 nautical miles south of that. Other than the pier, there aren't any go to spots for bait. Over submerged kelp and on the edges of a floating kelp forests are good places to try and look for bait. This is were a fishfinder is worth it's weight in gold. Sometimes you'll finding popping on the surface as well. Lately I've been finding bait about 15'-25' below the surface.. When I say outside I mean anything west of Point La Jolla, but that's just my interpretation...

08-21-2007, 02:19 PM	#7
nmbrinkman Work Sucks! Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: San Diego Posts: 559	Don't get me wrong.. I 100% agree about the pier. I only occasionally go there and never rely on it... I as well have some productive spots. I'm sure not as many as you but they're usually productive nonetheless.. It's not hard to find bait most of the time.. It's just time OTW that will put you on bait without really having to think about it...