Your Thoughts? - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

Hobie-Pedaller · 08-08-2013, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by makobob

....No paddle harness? ....

ANOTHER advantage of mirage drive kayaks.

NO harness necessary. whenever paddle is dropped in water & floats away from yak, u just pedal after it & pick it up.

i've never used a paddle harness, and never lost a paddle in 10 yrs of yakking.
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makobob · 08-08-2013, 08:40 AM

Ok, I stand corrected, but you would not have had to swim back to boat if you had leash.

Deamon · 08-08-2013, 08:47 AM

I found out that when I merely watch someone else fall off a kayak...even on YouTube...I get a cold sweat and have flashbacks at night on my past failures...Not cool. I didn't sleep well. I'll try to avoid these types of videos in the future. Jim

lowprofile · 08-10-2013, 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hobie-Pedaller

ANOTHER advantage of mirage drive kayaks.

NO harness necessary. whenever paddle is dropped in water & floats away from yak, u just pedal after it & pick it up.

i've never used a paddle harness, and never lost a paddle in 10 yrs of yakking.
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unless your using it because your mirage drive broke...

Irishman · 08-10-2013, 07:00 PM

Leash.....
End of story without one. Not been kayaking for long but can tell this much that the paddle should be firmly attached to the kayak....here's my very simple reasoning why....
Surfed my share of big waves with and without a leash, gook cord call it what you will....learnt one very invaluable lesson.....there is no such thing as an atheist when you are in the ocean with big water. It has a way of humbling you very quickly. If you have ever been in a life threating situation in the ocean you will know what I mean.
It's a funny video to watch....but what if the wind was up, paddling solo and the drive broke??? Sorry to be overly paranoid...just be prepared.
With that said it was funny!!!

StinkyMatt · 08-10-2013, 07:56 PM

Most kayak schools or instructors will tell you to never have a paddle leash when launching or Landing. Safety thing.

Out in the open water I guess it could make sense.

Hobie-Pedaller · 08-11-2013, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by lowprofile

unless your using it because your mirage drive broke...

well, i suspect the odds of THAT COMBINATION happening, are somewhere along the lines of getting struck by lightning, or similar extremely unlikely occurrences.

in 10 yrs of yakking, and knowing there are thousands of mirage drives in use, and following every yak fishing website in existence over that 10 yrs.... i've have heard of a grand total of ONE mirage drive breaking. (posted just in past few months on this website.)

so i don't think that is really much of a significant concern.

AND IF A MIRAGE DRIVE DOES BREAK, THEN ANY PRUDENT YAKKER COULD THEN EASILY FOCUS ON MAKING SURE TO HOLD ON TO PADDLE SECURELY, AND NOT DOING ANYTHING RISKY, SUCH AS MANY OF THE THINGS POSTED EARLIER IN THIS THREAD, TO RISK GOING OVERBOARD, OR LOSING PADDLE, ETC.

i would worry more about being struck by lightning, or getting eaten by a shark, than worry about the odds of having BOTH my mirage drive break, AND then ALSO subsequently losing my paddle after that, when knowing i did not have a working mirage drive available.
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jorluivil · 08-11-2013, 01:49 PM

Although this all started as a joke it became a eye opener the second that I was unable to swim faster than the kayak was drifting.

Do I drop the paddle?
should I take off my PFD so that I can swim faster?
Should I hail the USCG(I'm not sure how many of you noticed but my VHF was clipped to my PFD)?
should I strip the layers of clothing that are weighing me down?

I can't imagine what the end result could have been if I was alone. Fortunately, this all ended well but it was only because Matt was near me and rest assured I would have never tried this if I was alone in open water.

Old Man in the Sea · 08-11-2013, 02:09 PM

) yes forget the paddle - IMMEDIATELY use your arms in a fast crawl stroke back to the kayak - you waited too long.
2) no never/ever take off your pfd it will keep you floating and it has the vhf.
3) yes if you don't catch your kayak
4) in your clothing case yes if #1 fails immediately - kick off those shoes - arch to heel and push - then grab your butt and pull those pants past your knees and kick them off - swim back with full power using arms and kicking...
5) You must use a long teather tied around your waist and the other end to Tony's swim step if you want to try it alone...

lowprofile · 08-11-2013, 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hobie-Pedaller

well, i suspect the odds of THAT COMBINATION happening, are somewhere along the lines of getting struck by lightning, or similar extremely unlikely occurrences.

in 10 yrs of yakking, and knowing there are thousands of mirage drives in use, and following every yak fishing website in existence over that 10 yrs.... i've have heard of a grand total of ONE mirage drive breaking. (posted just in past few months on this website.)

so i don't think that is really much of a significant concern.

AND IF A MIRAGE DRIVE DOES BREAK, THEN ANY PRUDENT YAKKER COULD THEN EASILY FOCUS ON MAKING SURE TO HOLD ON TO PADDLE SECURELY, AND NOT DOING ANYTHING RISKY, SUCH AS MANY OF THE THINGS POSTED EARLIER IN THIS THREAD, TO RISK GOING OVERBOARD, OR LOSING PADDLE, ETC.

i would worry more about being struck by lightning, or getting eaten by a shark, than worry about the odds of having BOTH my mirage drive break, AND then ALSO subsequently losing my paddle after that, when knowing i did not have a working mirage drive available.
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well i'm glad that you follow EVERY kayak board because i know of 3 that broke just this year, and one that broke twice here in florida. shit mine broke and i had to paddle in. they aren't all reported but the three i mention were.

Zac, Zfish, lost his drive then the damn hobie paddle BROKE!

I've spear fished in shark infested waters with hammers and bulls in sight, waded in chest deep water at night with bulls around, fished through a dozen or more lightning storms this year and the only unfortunate thing to happen was the mirage drive broke.

FishNinjaY · 08-12-2013, 04:30 AM

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Originally Posted by lowprofile

well i'm glad that you follow EVERY kayak board because i know of 3 that broke just this year, and one that broke twice here in florida. shit mine broke and i had to paddle in. they aren't all reported but the three i mention were.

Zac, Zfish, lost his drive then the damn hobie paddle BROKE!

I've spear fished in shark infested waters with hammers and bulls in sight, waded in chest deep water at night with bulls around, fished through a dozen or more lightning storms this year and the only unfortunate thing to happen was the mirage drive broke.

I'm pretty new to this game, but I've seen stuff happen already. On the recent Islander trip, at least 1 Mirage drive I know of broke. Another person I know, recently broke the rudder pin on his outback. The Hobie's are great, but not indestructible. With the miles and abuse people put on these kayaks, I'm surprised we don't hear about more of these breakdowns. I have the big Oasis tandem, and I usually only bring 1 paddle.. but if (when) something like this busts, I'm sure I'll be cussing a lot on my way back in.

wiredantz · 08-12-2013, 06:56 AM

Somethings i observed,

you don't have upper body strength, you drink to much beer, and never every listen to a polish double dog dare.

Old Man in the Sea · 08-12-2013, 08:07 AM

the old polish double-dog dare again???
nice to know...

get a bag with mirage drive parts and repair tools... they do need fixing....

08-08-2013, 08:40 AM	#2
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08-08-2013, 08:47 AM	#3
Deamon Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,972	I found out that when I merely watch someone else fall off a kayak...even on YouTube...I get a cold sweat and have flashbacks at night on my past failures...Not cool. I didn't sleep well. I'll try to avoid these types of videos in the future. Jim __________________ Recreational Fisherman's Catch...2% Commercial Fisherman's Catch- 98% Recreational Fishing Kayakers Catch- .00001% "The reality is that the wall was built to keep all Asians ~specifically Japanese and those that think they're japanese~ out of the U.S"

08-11-2013, 01:49 PM	#8
jorluivil Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 6,856	Although this all started as a joke it became a eye opener the second that I was unable to swim faster than the kayak was drifting. Do I drop the paddle? should I take off my PFD so that I can swim faster? Should I hail the USCG(I'm not sure how many of you noticed but my VHF was clipped to my PFD)? should I strip the layers of clothing that are weighing me down? I can't imagine what the end result could have been if I was alone. Fortunately, this all ended well but it was only because Matt was near me and rest assured I would have never tried this if I was alone in open water. __________________ www.facebook.com/Teamsewer

08-11-2013, 02:09 PM	#9
Old Man in the Sea Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Bay Park Posts: 569	2 cents from the hobie gallery ) yes forget the paddle - IMMEDIATELY use your arms in a fast crawl stroke back to the kayak - you waited too long. 2) no never/ever take off your pfd it will keep you floating and it has the vhf. 3) yes if you don't catch your kayak 4) in your clothing case yes if #1 fails immediately - kick off those shoes - arch to heel and push - then grab your butt and pull those pants past your knees and kick them off - swim back with full power using arms and kicking... 5) You must use a long teather tied around your waist and the other end to Tony's swim step if you want to try it alone...

08-12-2013, 06:56 AM	#12
wiredantz Currently @ MLO Territory Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Under the Shadow Posts: 2,290	Somethings i observed, you don't have upper body strength, you drink to much beer, and never every listen to a polish double dog dare. __________________ Team: Disbanded You only have one chance in this life...make the right decision(s)...so you don't regret it

08-10-2013, 07:00 PM	#5
Irishman Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 306	Leash..... End of story without one. Not been kayaking for long but can tell this much that the paddle should be firmly attached to the kayak....here's my very simple reasoning why.... Surfed my share of big waves with and without a leash, gook cord call it what you will....learnt one very invaluable lesson.....there is no such thing as an atheist when you are in the ocean with big water. It has a way of humbling you very quickly. If you have ever been in a life threating situation in the ocean you will know what I mean. It's a funny video to watch....but what if the wind was up, paddling solo and the drive broke??? Sorry to be overly paranoid...just be prepared. With that said it was funny!!!

08-10-2013, 07:56 PM	#6
StinkyMatt Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Under a bridge Posts: 2,169	Most kayak schools or instructors will tell you to never have a paddle leash when launching or Landing. Safety thing. Out in the open water I guess it could make sense.

08-12-2013, 08:07 AM	#13
Old Man in the Sea Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Bay Park Posts: 569	the old polish double-dog dare again??? nice to know... get a bag with mirage drive parts and repair tools... they do need fixing....