Kayak Boat Crowd Fishing Etiquette

[Iceman]

Gotta share this fresh experience. Today I was doing the happy pedal in around 10am with a large greenback in tow. About 100 yards outside the reserve the greenback gets picked up and freight trains south and finally into the kelp. There is a boater in gear cruising into the path of the fish. I yell out that I have a fish heading at him, it is obvious, rod bent and moving fast, he just stared back and kept motoring. Around 25 feet away I yell that I am going to run right into him. He yells back all pissed off" Are you serious? I slammed into the side of the boat, fish still pulling drag, I have the rod in the water and am getting pushed around the stern right by that spinning prop thingy. Fish pops off as it rubs on something sharp and finally he tells his chick to take it out of gear. He lets loose with smoke coming out of his ears about me hitting his $50,000 boat and how I should have bjust backed off the drags. I just apologized as I had no intention of hitting his boat. Now if he had been anchored and not under power I would feel really bad. I like to think that I always try to take my share of the responsibility, this guy took none and showed me no courtesy, he could have easily taken the boat out of gear or turned the wheel to the left and I would have easily won Wades YT Derby

[dorado50]

Wow, that sucks. Not much you can do about people like that. Too bad you had to lose the fish because of this arrogant soul. Worst part about it is that tomorrow there will be another guy like him right around the corner!

[lamb]

Ugh...

Andy, that really sucks.
That's that "the guys that don't pay attention" category...
And you had to apologize?!

There is just no excuse...
If you are out there, fishing on your beautiful $50K boat,
and if you don't know that any moment that kayaker off of your bow can be taken on a ride,
and turn into unpredictable sailboat whose wind has a plan of it's own,
you have no friggen place out there.

You should be banned from sharing these waters, for ignorance.

Sad part is that if that was the attitude the guy had,
he'll likely keep it forever -
he is not the type that will read forums such as this, trying to learn more about what he's trying to catch (I suppose)

Thanks for sharing that Masta

[steveooo]

Originally Posted by Iceman

Gotta share this fresh experience. Today I was doing the happy pedal in around 10am with a large greenback in tow. About 100 yards outside the reserve the greenback gets picked up and freight trains south and finally into the kelp. There is a boater in gear cruising into the path of the fish. I yell out that I have a fish heading at him, it is obvious, rod bent and moving fast, he just stared back and kept motoring. Around 25 feet away I yell that I am going to run right into him. He yells back all pissed off" Are you serious? I slammed into the side of the boat, fish still pulling drag, I have the rod in the water and am getting pushed around the stern right by that spinning prop thingy. Fish pops off as it rubs on something sharp and finally he tells his chick to take it out of gear. He lets loose with smoke coming out of his ears about me hitting his $50,000 boat and how I should have bjust backed off the drags. I just apologized as I had no intention of hitting his boat. Now if he had been anchored and not under power I would feel really bad. I like to think that I always try to take my share of the responsibility, this guy took none and showed me no courtesy, he could have easily taken the boat out of gear or turned the wheel to the left and I would have easily won Wades YT Derby

Any pics of the dudes girlfriend? No? How about a pic of a YT?

[YakMedic]

Originally Posted by Iceman

Today I was doing the happy pedal in around 10am

Happy pedal at 10 huh?

Sucks about the asshat boater but I have suspicions that you didn't come in empty handed either.

Its good to post up the experience because even when you try and do everything you can there are always things outside your control eg. oblivious boaters.

[Iceman]

I guess I might have been the other hot head in this situation if I did not have fresh YT on the deck. 8 am 24#on a flylined greenback in 80 feet. I was planning on releasing the 2nd...........I guess I did.

[dorado50]

You are one person I never would want to be around!. To cause bodily harm to someone over a fishing line is just wrong. You seem to be out of control on the water...please forgive your victims as they may not know what they do!! The taking the "violators to court" thing that you do is a much better process.

[FlyFishinYakr]

Originally Posted by Iceman

Gotta share this fresh experience. Today I was doing the happy pedal in around 10am with a large greenback in tow. About 100 yards outside the reserve the greenback gets picked up and freight trains south and finally into the kelp. There is a boater in gear cruising into the path of the fish. I yell out that I have a fish heading at him, it is obvious, rod bent and moving fast, he just stared back and kept motoring. Around 25 feet away I yell that I am going to run right into him. He yells back all pissed off" Are you serious? I slammed into the side of the boat, fish still pulling drag, I have the rod in the water and am getting pushed around the stern right by that spinning prop thingy. Fish pops off as it rubs on something sharp and finally he tells his chick to take it out of gear. He lets loose with smoke coming out of his ears about me hitting his $50,000 boat and how I should have bjust backed off the drags. I just apologized as I had no intention of hitting his boat. Now if he had been anchored and not under power I would feel really bad. I like to think that I always try to take my share of the responsibility, this guy took none and showed me no courtesy, he could have easily taken the boat out of gear or turned the wheel to the left and I would have easily won Wades YT Derby

Originally Posted by dorado50

You are one person I never would want to be around!. To cause bodily harm to someone over a fishing line is just wrong. You seem to be out of control on the water...please forgive your victims as they may not know what they do!! The taking the "violators to court" thing that you do is a much better process.

You obviously didn't read my statement thoroughly! I never stated I aim for the people, I aim for the largest mass of the boat that I could hit WITHOUT THE POSSIBILITY of causing collateral injury (i.e. the bow.). I also should have quantified clearer that I believe my life was in danger And if you've ever been that close to a larger boat while in a float tube or pontoon then you might have a better idea (and I'm talking so close you can reach out and touch the boat!)
Also there is a favorite saying in court...ignorance of the law is "NO EXCUSE".
FFY

[dorado50]

Launching a projectile at a person or object is WRONG. Perhaps anger management classes will help you. Most don't know or would consider the damage to a person which a paintball, 1oz.sinker,and even an iron can cause. Get a clue...if you wanna shot and maime things don't do it on our oceans.....

By the way, if your in a float tube stay the hell out of boat traffic lanes.

[easyday]

Originally Posted by dorado50

You are one person I never would want to be around!. To cause bodily harm to someone over a fishing line is just wrong. You seem to be out of control on the water...please forgive your victims as they may not know what they do!! The taking the "violators to court" thing that you do is a much better process.

If I read correctly, or maybe I didnt it sounded like whoever said boater was was going to hit him not his lines. A loud thump on the hull would deff get my attention if I was a boater. It may not be be yhe best case but hey situation always dictates. Cant really armchair quarterback a decision made in a moment if we weren't there. Just saying.

[Zed]

You guys carry a safety whistle and/or airhorn right?

[Jimmyz123]

Trust me, if you launch a projectile at someone's boat, and cause damage to that boat or anyone on the boat, or your actions cause pain or injury YOU will be held liable. There are other ways to protect yourself. Horns, whistles, and the like are the best way to go. Keep your head up and if you see a boater not paying attention, I'm sure you can get out of the way. I always have my paddle on my lap or close enough to grab and whistle attached to me. I have had some close encounters, but nothing has ever hit me. Don't launch things at others, remember you are on a Kayak and a boater can make life really ugly for you if they want to.


Common Sense, screams load and clear here.

[wiredantz]

POwer boat vs kayak = who will win

[dorado50]

Originally Posted by Jimmyz123

Trust me, if you launch a projectile at someone's boat, and cause damage to that boat or anyone on the boat, or your actions cause pain or injury YOU will be held liable. There are other ways to protect yourself. Horns, whistles, and the like are the best way to go. Keep your head up and if you see a boater not paying attention, I'm sure you can get out of the way. I always have my paddle on my lap or close enough to grab and whistle attached to me. I have had some close encounters, but nothing has ever hit me. Don't launch things at others, remember you are on a Kayak and a boater can mike life really ugly for you if they want to.


Common Sense, screams load and clear here.

Well stated Jimmyz, at least there seems to be a few guys here that understand the consequences involved here.

[Zed]

Common Sense, screams load and clear here.

Firing common sense loads is alright.

[cabojohn]

Originally Posted by FlyFishinYakr

I don't know if this is acceptable but I carry a wrist rocket with paintballs if they don't see my 500 lumen patrol light. If they ignore both warnings I also have a fog horn. Finally if they are bound and determined to get too close I go to my steel shot BB's and aim for the hull (at the bow where the boat rides the highest and presents a larger area where it is harder to miss and inadvertently cause collateral casualties unless there are passengers up front as in the case of center console style boats) so the sound will get their attention. I'll also video the CF# or take pics. For documentation purposes and file a report with the Coast Guard using my position as a federal D.O.T. representative so that they have to explain their irresponsible operation of a water vessel.
I did that when I was Float tubing Crowley when a guide service which will remain nameless kept speeding through Magee Bay almost swamping a number of tubers. I just happen to have my brand new video camera which I was "breaking in" documenting how close he would come to float tubers (we're talking within feet!). I called lake patrol let them review the video & got them removed for the day. I also filed a complaint against their guide license and drove up there for court to present my case and had their license suspended for 30 days. What private boaters don't realize there are waterway right of ways and safe conduct/distance regulation to protect bigger boats from smaller vessels. I don't have a problem going to court to have violators of these regulations fined.
btw: I have been chastised and fined for the use of my wrist rocket (but in that one case it was worth it).
I don't advocate the use of this kind of violence, just sharing my experience on the water.
FFY.

NO, it is not acceptable ever to use violence on the water.

Leave your rocket toys at home fool...you will end up hurting someone or getting yourself killed because of your own stupidity.