A Couple things I WTB

[FishNinjaY]

Originally Posted by Cyn

I think my Hobie is like 80+ lbs loaded, would you have to strap it down at all if just on cement walkway from the parking lot to the sand? Just curious.

didn't yours come with wheels? I thought it did?

You might be ok with no strap until you get to the sand. At that point, the wheels will dig in and sink some. Even if you have the fat wheeleez, they will sink a little in the sand, and you'll pull the yak off the wheels. I had 2 straps, but I usually only end up using 1 strap. With the ratchet, it's tight enough.

[Jimmyz123]

Originally Posted by FishNinjaY

didn't yours come with wheels? I thought it did?

You might be ok with no strap until you get to the sand. At that point, the wheels will dig in and sink some. Even if you have the fat wheeleez, they will sink a little in the sand, and you'll pull the yak off the wheels. I had 2 straps, but I usually only end up using 1 strap. With the ratchet, it's tight enough.

The Moken does come with the Wheel in a Keel however it was very tippy and not well balanced. It pulled through the sand going downhill fine, but at the end of the day pulling it up through the sand loaded up was difficult. Having ruptured my bicep tendon a few years ago I have learned it's better to be safe than having to go have surgery. The wheel works great for loading onto the vehicle, moving around the house, and on harder surfaces but deep sand not as great. I still have more testing to do, but I like the cart that I have for moving through sand.

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[Cyn]

Originally Posted by FishNinjaY

didn't yours come with wheels? I thought it did?

You might be ok with no strap until you get to the sand. At that point, the wheels will dig in and sink some. Even if you have the fat wheeleez, they will sink a little in the sand, and you'll pull the yak off the wheels. I had 2 straps, but I usually only end up using 1 strap. With the ratchet, it's tight enough.

The pimped out Outback did come with one of the expensive carts, but the 2nd Outback I bought is bare bones and currently I am just throwing it on top of the first one (on the same cart) and dragging them both out at the same time with my buddy pushing. Just looking to make it easier and get a 2nd cart. Does this cart break down to store inside the kayak? Unfortunately the Hobie doesn't have much space inside the hatches so internal storage isn't super easy.

[FishNinjaY]

are they the scupper cart, made by Hobie? I think those just flip upside down and fit inside the scupper holes, but pointing up.. while you kayak.

[Cyn]

It is actually a Wheeleez beach cart, one of the spendy ones with the fat tires. Yeah it fits in the scupper holes.