You Know Where 2/5/13

[fishing-kayak]

Looks like you had a great day. Can't wait to see more reports with more great catches from you.

[dos ballenas]

Originally Posted by fishing-kayak

Looks like you had a great day. Can't wait to see more reports with more great catches from you.

Nice fish... and report!

FYI:

Every report posted on BWE is then posted on www.fishdope.com

Loose lips sink ships!

Be aware that all reports are used in some form or another.....

[rhyak]

Originally Posted by dos ballenas

Nice fish... and report!

FYI:

Every report posted on BWE is then posted on www.fishdope.com

Loose lips sink ships!

Be aware that all reports are used in some form or another.....

OK, thanks for the heads up.

Its not a secret there has been a post almost daily that there are fish at a spot off the coast and there caught every month out of the year probably on a weekly basis.

There is no difference it was not wide open I fished from 6am-noon and only saw my fish with a dozen boats would not call anything wide open by any means of the imagination.

[rhyak]

PS if no one knew there is probably Halibut in the Port of LA.

[radastaff]

nice yellowtail RH
fricken awsome
congrats

[carbonbass]

Originally Posted by rhyak

PS if no one knew there is probably Halibut in the Port of LA.

what he said ^ cant believe i have gotten shit for posting my first YT on a yak, sad how territorial everyone is, these fish have been around much longer than us and they will continue to, many many people pop off, break off or simply cant figure out how to get a bite, and 1 fish out of the masses isn't going to hurt anything. Sad how such a fun recreation that you want to share your success with others becomes so secretive and QQ. This isn't the first year there have been winter home gaurd catches? . There are few out there, that remember how exhilarating it was to get their first, that want to see the same feeling passed on to someone else, that spark. Sadly for the majority its an ego issue and they are the only ones that are supposed to catch YT and not post about it. Since i joined this site, i dont think there has been a single month where i didnt see at least 1 YT report on here, and the best/hardest fishing fisherman still continue to catch tons of YT, while us newer to the sport of big game yak fishing slowly learn and try to catch up, so whats the big deal? I know a bunch of those private boaters turn out to be disrespectful panzies that can ruin it for us, but just because you know where the fish are doesnt mean your going to put one in the boat, those guys that think they know what they are doing and disrespect the sport will fail and lose steam chasing fish like this. I could understand if someone was posting pics with 8 40lb fish that we all know some of which will go to waste. Just dont waste the resource, keep what you can eat and share your knowledge with those that are less experienced. Just my 2c.

[rhyak]

Originally Posted by bigwaterho

Nice fish, but who wants to fish around a dozen boats? Sorry this is my first post but I just started fishing la jolla these last few months and have never seen "a dozen" boats on the water, let alone all in the same spot, on a weekday no less? Last week conditions where as nice as I've seen and there where maybe 3-4 kayaks on the water, no boats. Now after 4-5days of people posting fresh reports on here you're telling me there are 12 boats and god knows how many kayaks? on a weekday? Sounds like the reason "everyone knows" is because of us posting fresh reports on this site. Even the kooks over on bloodydecks seem to keep their mouths shut better than us!

Hey next january to March there will be a YT bite at LJ. Just so you know!!!

PS there will be a WSB bite coming up, just wait and post over on BD.

Deal with it or get lost.

Regards,
Ryan

[slobslayer]

^^^^^^nice first post^^^..... Ha I've always wanted to say that. I love reading the reports and ya it does ruin the "surprise" sometimes for some people, but as the old saying goes, just shut up and fish!

[chris138]

Congratulations! Great catch! I'm sure there will be many more

Hey Owyn,

In the "cooler" picture you can see small parasites all over the side of the fish. I've seen these on many YT that I've caught in the last 12 months or so.

What types of parasites are these? Copepods? Do they have an adverse affect on the animal's health/quality of the meat?

Also, is there any migratory or life cycle information which can be ascertained from the presence of the parasites on YT?



Not that anybody really cares, but just my 2 cents regarding "posting" and posts about posting:

In case some of you guys didn't know, Owyn happens to work with southwest fisheries and is a resident expert on YT population dynamics. His remarks about the sustainability of our fishery should be taken to heart... he is one of our few advocates as fishermen, in a scientific community which largely views recreational fishing as something to be systematically eliminated. Thanks Owyn!

[GregAndrew]

While I agree that loose lips can sink ships, I don't think that is the case here. One guy catching one fish after essentially giving up, after 4 hours of Yoyoing, on a Luna is unlikely to bring out the masses. If that is the case however, then they were already looking for any excuse to come out. More likely it is due to activity like Let's Talk Hookup talking about the LJ YT on the radio the weekend before. To me there is a difference between a fish report and a "bite" report. Now I would not recommend timely posting of multiple exotic catches by one or more anlgers on an open forum. That is my 2 cents anyway.

[dos ballenas]

Originally Posted by chris138

Congratulations! Great catch! I'm sure there will be many more

Hey Owyn,

In the "cooler" picture you can see small parasites all over the side of the fish. I've seen these on many YT that I've caught in the last 12 months or so.

What types of parasites are these? Copepods? Do they have an adverse affect on the animal's health/quality of the meat?

yeap they're copepods....

http://www.thedorsalfin.com/shark-ne...-sharks-video/

2:02 shows similar ones attached to dorsal fin.

They occur in pretty much all pelagic species from YT to mako sharks. I'm not an expert on parasites, but I don't think they HELP the fish

AS far as hurting the fillets.... nope! I can always sample them for you and report back if you prefer

Also, is there any migratory or life cycle information which can be ascertained from the presence of the parasites on YT?

good question. some parasite have been used to infer migratory patterns in some species, but I don't think it would work in this case. Electronic tagging (a project I'm currently trying to get started) and ort conventional tagging is the only way to address this. Similar studies in New Zealand suggest that YT over 30 pounds have a HOME range

Not that anybody really cares, but just my 2 cents regarding "posting" and posts about posting:

In case some of you guys didn't know, Owyn happens to work with southwest fisheries and is a resident expert on YT population dynamics. His remarks about the sustainability of our fishery should be taken to heart... he is one of our few advocates as fishermen, in a scientific community which largely views recreational fishing as something to be systematically eliminated. Thanks Owyn!

thanks Ryan. now they know where to find me

See you on the water!

[TheBentRod]

Originally Posted by rhyak

Hey next january to March there will be a YT bite at LJ. Just so you know!!!

PS there will be a WSB bite coming up, just wait and post over on BD.

Deal with it or get lost.

Regards,
Ryan

X2

[dos ballenas]

Originally Posted by bigwaterho

Nice fish, but who wants to fish around a dozen boats? Sorry this is my first post but I just started fishing la jolla these last few months and have never seen "a dozen" boats on the water, let alone all in the same spot, on a weekday no less? Last week conditions where as nice as I've seen and there where maybe 3-4 kayaks on the water, no boats. Now after 4-5days of people posting fresh reports on here you're telling me there are 12 boats and god knows how many kayaks? on a weekday? Sounds like the reason "everyone knows" is because of us posting fresh reports on this site. Even the kooks over on bloodydecks seem to keep their mouths shut better than us!

Yeap....

And the very next day there were 52 boats in that ONE little spot.

And that's not even as crowded as it gets!
No one is trying to harsh you for being stoked on your first yt.
I just wanted to point out that reports have a direct impact on crowd.

I have a good view of the La Jolla spot from my work and I watch the crowds fluctuate everyday.

It's one thing to be stoked and tell your friends, but the internet is not the place to do it anymore! Thousands of people view these posts daily.... I get it that you guys want to give back and help others get stoked and learn how to fish...

Just remember: this in the WWW


To quote fishdope from last Friday, Saturday, and Sunday: "kayakers in La Jolla catching Yellowtail..."

It's not a territorial thing guys. It's about having respect for a limited resource. I guess I care for these fish way too much..... and I hate seeing lazy people rewarded.

Rhyak: You're right, it's no secret that YT and WSB will bite this year, next year, and hopefully the year after... yes the WSB always bite around the time the Fred Hall Show opens in March, that is NO secret. In fact they probably bit good on Feb 7th 1952 as well.

But: MOST people in this world are too lazy to get off their couch. They sit at home and wait for a "report" on the internet. Don't help the lazy idiots (Yes most of these idiots know how to fish and probably fish better than you) that sit at home and waiting for you to do all the ground work!

take care,
Owyn

[carbonbass]

Originally Posted by dos ballenas

Yeap....

And the very next day there were 52 boats in that ONE little spot.

And that's not even as crowded as it gets!
No one is trying to harsh you for being stoked on your first yt.
I just wanted to point out that reports have a direct impact on crowd.

I have a good view of the La Jolla spot from my work and I watch the crowds fluctuate everyday.

It's one thing to be stoked and tell your friends, but the internet is not the place to do it anymore! Thousands of people view these posts daily.... I get it that you guys want to give back and help others get stoked and learn how to fish...

Just remember: this in the WWW


To quote fishdope from last Friday, Saturday, and Sunday: "kayakers in La Jolla catching Yellowtail..."

It's not a territorial thing guys. It's about having respect for a limited resource. I guess I care for these fish way too much..... and I hate seeing lazy people rewarded.

Rhyak: You're right, it's no secret that YT and WSB will bite this year, next year, and hopefully the year after... yes the WSB always bite around the time the Fred Hall Show opens in March, that is NO secret. In fact they probably bit good on Feb 7th 1952 as well.

But: MOST people in this world are too lazy to get off their couch. They sit at home and wait for a "report" on the internet. Don't help the lazy idiots (Yes most of these idiots know how to fish and probably fish better than you) that sit at home and waiting for you to do all the ground work!

take care,
Owyn

I can respect this.... how did it look today? Is it still a zoo :\. That said when i get my first WSB i will wait till the bite is gone to post it, my next yt will not be posted at all, maybe just shared via PM to friends. This makes a lot more sense than some of the other reasons ive seen not to post. But what i tend to think is, isnt it impossible to hide the bite completely? People on the beach see you roll up with YT, boaters do check LJ and one boater tells 1 friend, he tells the next, even if its not on the web isnt it pretty reasonable to say that at least 50 people will know about it from friends/seeing the bite etc?

[dos ballenas]

Originally Posted by carbonbass

I can respect this.... how did it look today? Is it still a zoo :\. That said when i get my first WSB i will wait till the bite is gone to post it, my next yt will not be posted at all, maybe just shared via PM to friends. This makes a lot more sense than some of the other reasons ive seen not to post. But what i tend to think is, isnt it impossible to hide the bite completely? People on the beach see you roll up with YT, boaters do check LJ and one boater tells 1 friend, he tells the next, even if its not on the web isnt it pretty reasonable to say that at least 50 people will know about it from friends/seeing the bite etc?

hahah today? Looked STORMY!

Yeah, the network runs DEEP.... but the internet (aka fishdope) is the

It's not that hard to hide fish at the launch! Just ask RK

[ZUMAN]

Guess some forget the rules here
http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwevb/s...ad.php?t=14207

I rather hang out with a group of chicks on their periods,
Than see the "lynching" that Ryan is getting for posting 1 fish!!

Being one of the Malibu guys,I see these so called "timely reports",
I don't get in my car at 3 am and haul ass down south to STEAL anybodies fish!

That being said,I recall the handful of timely reports on our"BU" WSB bite.
And all the "kudos" and way to go's for those reports.
Seems like a territorial thing perhaps

[monkeyfishturds]

Originally Posted by dos ballenas

Yeap....

And the very next day there were 52 boats in that ONE little spot.

And that's not even as crowded as it gets!
No one is trying to harsh you for being stoked on your first yt.
I just wanted to point out that reports have a direct impact on crowd.

I have a good view of the La Jolla spot from my work and I watch the crowds fluctuate everyday.

It's one thing to be stoked and tell your friends, but the internet is not the place to do it anymore! Thousands of people view these posts daily.... I get it that you guys want to give back and help others get stoked and learn how to fish...

Just remember: this in the WWW


To quote fishdope from last Friday, Saturday, and Sunday: "kayakers in La Jolla catching Yellowtail..."

It's not a territorial thing guys. It's about having respect for a limited resource. I guess I care for these fish way too much..... and I hate seeing lazy people rewarded.

Rhyak: You're right, it's no secret that YT and WSB will bite this year, next year, and hopefully the year after... yes the WSB always bite around the time the Fred Hall Show opens in March, that is NO secret. In fact they probably bit good on Feb 7th 1952 as well.

But: MOST people in this world are too lazy to get off their couch. They sit at home and wait for a "report" on the internet. Don't help the lazy idiots (Yes most of these idiots know how to fish and probably fish better than you) that sit at home and waiting for you to do all the ground work!

take care,
Owyn

If Ryak hadn't seen all the posts lately, he would have still been on the couch you speak of. I feel sorry for our fishery now that people don't
care.