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lowprofile · 01-06-2013, 06:05 PM

dont worry theres plenty of shark meat, livers, spleen and skins being processed in the factory below all those fins... tuna too.

and say theres 10,000 fins up there. divide that by 6 or 8. lets say 7, since most sharks have more than two fins right? ok so its 20,000 fins. still only 3,000-4,000 sharks. about the same taken in socal by recreation fishermen who do not use the fins, liver or skins. just want the meat and/or teeth.

Redeyejedi · 01-06-2013, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by lowprofile

dont worry theres plenty of shark meat, livers, spleen and skins being processed in the factory below all those fins... tuna too.

and say theres 10,000 fins up there. divide that by 6 or 8. lets say 7, since most sharks have more than two fins right? ok so its 20,000 fins. still only 3,000-4,000 sharks. about the same taken in socal by recreation fishermen who do not use the fins, liver or skins. just want the meat and/or teeth.

and say you have something to back up the b.s.?

lowprofile · 01-06-2013, 06:32 PM

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and say you have something to back up the b.s.?

what b.s.?

there's an ugly stripper in every club and the fenatics always use them as the poster girls to give the place a bad rep.

PapaDave · 01-07-2013, 09:00 AM

I use the fins for soup on the ones I catch, it turns out real good. Not sure what to do with the liver and don't know how to preserve the skin, which would be cool though. And yes, I keep the teeth, my grandson like them.

Redeyejedi · 01-07-2013, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by lowprofile

what b.s.?

there's an ugly stripper in every club and the fenatics always use them as the poster girls to give the place a bad rep.

was just saying they aren't processing anything "down there". they fin the sharks at sea and toss them back into the ocean still alive.

Quilted Germ · 01-07-2013, 10:37 AM

Disgusting....The culture needs to change or this will continue on a large scale. The videos of dumping finless sharks back in the water are the worst...

dos ballenas · 01-07-2013, 11:44 AM

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was just saying they aren't processing anything "down there". they fin the sharks at sea and toss them back into the ocean still alive.

trust me, they keep plenty of whole sharks.... yes in some fisheries they fin the shark and throw the rest back.

Honestly guys, almost all of your comments are misinformed and opinionated.

The DFG is not the problem... its the special interest extermist environmental groups...

Instead of getting pissed off and screaming on the internet why not do something productive instead?

Educate your frinds and family about local sustainable fisheries....?

NOthing will change unless we stop importing fish from contries that practice illegal fishing methods.

It all starts with the consumer....

Deamon · 01-07-2013, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by lowprofile

there's an ugly stripper in every club and the fenatics always use them as the poster girls to give the place a bad rep.

Hahaha! Love that analogy. A Florida fisherman's not going to worry about shark populations (even if you are a newbie). I'm suprised you haven't sent us a video yet...bull shark towing around a P.A. in shallow, crystal blue water...it's coming.

Jimmyz123 · 01-07-2013, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by lowprofile

dont worry theres plenty of shark meat, livers, spleen and skins being processed in the factory below all those fins... tuna too.

and say theres 10,000 fins up there. divide that by 6 or 8. lets say 7, since most sharks have more than two fins right? ok so its 20,000 fins. still only 3,000-4,000 sharks. about the same taken in socal by recreation fishermen who do not use the fins, liver or skins. just want the meat and/or teeth.

Have you seen the videos on how they gather the fins? Normally they catch the sharks, cut the fins of, and then dump the rest of the shark in the ocean. I have seen this a few times. If the entire shark was being used, I don't think there would be an issue, but that's not the case.

http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mO7hvOtYnck

More education I feel is needed for most to understand what is going on here.

dos ballenas · 01-07-2013, 11:49 AM

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Have you seen the videos on how they gather the fins? Normally they catch the sharks, cut the fins of, and then dump the rest of the shark in the ocean. I have seen this a few times. If the entire shark was being used, I don't think there would be an issue, but that's not the case.

http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mO7hvOtYnck

This does occur. But often times they do use the WHOLE shark.

Videos like these are made to serve one purpose. They aim to sway public opinion by highlighting atrocities. Mentioning that they also harvest whole sharks wouldn't have helped pass the legislation to make shark fins illegal....

GregAndrew · 01-07-2013, 12:43 PM

Showing only videos like these to the public is exactly how the "blue shirts" got their following. That is why 80% of their numbers at the MLPA meetings had no clue that they were arguing irrelevant points. Most of their numbers thought that most species off our coast were almost extinct. They were teaching the school kids that we were "blowing up" fish and destroying coral reefs in our local waters. Don't get the tunnel vision that goes along with mob mentality.

min-va · 01-07-2013, 02:32 PM

Well, i guess no one knows better than me in BWE about Hong Kong and shark fin soup, i myself born in HK and grew up there until 13 years old and came to LA.

When i was kid, i had shark fin soup quiet often, maybe twice a year, usually when wedding banquet, or family member birthday dinners, but other than that, we usually don't eat shark fin soup, but really, back then no one really think about how or who killed the shark, it just a soup, no different with chicken or beef soup, is expensive because is shark.

Not until recent years, media start to bringing up this issue, internet is easy to access worldwide, then i started to know how shark was killed, and how much money people made for these shark fin.

Anyway, a lot of Chinese ppl in HK or China, starting to notice the issue, and their media also talked about it, some big Chinese restaurant also stop selling shark fin soup, the only way to stop this is to education people, a lot of people just don't know the truth story about shark fin soup, most of them stop eating shark fin soup once they found out the true story behind it, including myself, and the ones that do the catching usually occur in South American or Africa, they basically just do it because of money.

So

if you hate me because i am Chinese or i am from HK, i haven't eat shark fin soup for many years, and i never will again...

honeyhole · 01-07-2013, 05:34 PM

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Well, i guess no one knows better than me in BWE about Hong Kong and shark fin soup, i myself born in HK and grew up there until 13 years old and came to LA.

just wanted to say - I'M FROM HONG KONG TOO! 852 REPRESENT! I grew up there and moved to LA when I was 18. :D

my parents used to force me to eat random stuff like chicken feet, oxtongue grossness, snake-wine??!?! weird shit (by US standards, at least) but shark fin soup wasn't as gross as most. haha. ok, end of my thread hijack. i miss hk now. :(

vincentek9 · 01-08-2013, 01:56 PM

the problem clearly is..... they arent on ice. so they arent as fresh as can be.

Redeyejedi · 01-07-2013, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by dos ballenas

This does occur. But often times they do use the WHOLE shark.

Videos like these are made to serve one purpose. They aim to sway public opinion by highlighting atrocities. Mentioning that they also harvest whole sharks wouldn't have helped pass the legislation to make shark fins illegal....

i have not seen one video showing the use of any other part of than the fin. if it is indeed so often, why not more video evidence?
why are there countless examples of fin&toss as the norm not the exception?
instead of talking shit and making a poor attempt to make political connections put up some of this "sustainable" shark finning you speak of.

ful-rac · 01-07-2013, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Redeyejedi

i have not seen one video showing the use of any other part of than the fin. if it is indeed so often, why not more video evidence?
why are there countless examples of fin&toss as the norm not the exception?
instead of talking shit and making a poor attempt to make political connections put up some of this "sustainable" shark finning you speak of.

Take it easy there tiger...remember it's those damn asians were talking about here...they waste nothing! I'm sure the head and eyeballs make good soup too! And I'm sure shark meat is a good substitue for viagra...

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They aim to sway public opinion by highlighting atrocities

Amen on that ! Just like everybody else who has an agenda....Gun control.

Redeyejedi · 01-07-2013, 09:45 PM

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Take it easy there tiger...remember it's those damn asians were talking about here...they waste nothing! I'm sure the head and eyeballs make good soup too! And I'm sure shark meat is a good substitue for viagra...

Amen on that ! Just like everybody else who has an agenda....Gun control.

brother.... it's not just those damn fill in the blank it's what cannot be controlled/patrolled/sustained/....in them dem int'l waters.
look into longlineing, shark finning, aquarium exotic spe....you get the picture....it's up to us environmetalists...ooops i meant fishers/hunters/landkeepers and protectors of the gamelands we ALL wish to feed from.

it would kind of seem that "greenies" who wish to preserve the envoriment and those that seek it's bounty would read the same pages, yet not only a separate book they read, but a separate library they visit.

GregAndrew · 01-07-2013, 10:34 PM

Redeye, the greenies you speak of now only want to preserve the wildlife for itself. They dont believe we are part of the natural food chain. The reason you only see dramatic footage is because that is what sells, and sells their causes to corporate backing. I know that I would not really be interested in watching a shark processing video (unless I was getting ready to process my own).

01-06-2013, 06:05 PM	#1
lowprofile #1 on fishstick's hitlist Join Date: May 2011 Location: Sea level Posts: 1,478	dont worry theres plenty of shark meat, livers, spleen and skins being processed in the factory below all those fins... tuna too. and say theres 10,000 fins up there. divide that by 6 or 8. lets say 7, since most sharks have more than two fins right? ok so its 20,000 fins. still only 3,000-4,000 sharks. about the same taken in socal by recreation fishermen who do not use the fins, liver or skins. just want the meat and/or teeth. __________________ MLPA- My Largest Poaching Area

01-07-2013, 09:00 AM	#4
PapaDave Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Menifee, CA Posts: 1,480	I use the fins for soup on the ones I catch, it turns out real good. Not sure what to do with the liver and don't know how to preserve the skin, which would be cool though. And yes, I keep the teeth, my grandson like them. __________________ So long and thanks for all the fish...

01-07-2013, 10:37 AM	#6
Quilted Germ Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Cardiff, Ca Posts: 185	Disgusting....The culture needs to change or this will continue on a large scale. The videos of dumping finless sharks back in the water are the worst... __________________ Politics is supposed to be the second oldest profession. I have come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first. - Ronald Reagan

01-07-2013, 02:32 PM	#12
min-va Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Hacienda Heights Posts: 216	Well, i guess no one knows better than me in BWE about Hong Kong and shark fin soup, i myself born in HK and grew up there until 13 years old and came to LA. When i was kid, i had shark fin soup quiet often, maybe twice a year, usually when wedding banquet, or family member birthday dinners, but other than that, we usually don't eat shark fin soup, but really, back then no one really think about how or who killed the shark, it just a soup, no different with chicken or beef soup, is expensive because is shark. Not until recent years, media start to bringing up this issue, internet is easy to access worldwide, then i started to know how shark was killed, and how much money people made for these shark fin. Anyway, a lot of Chinese ppl in HK or China, starting to notice the issue, and their media also talked about it, some big Chinese restaurant also stop selling shark fin soup, the only way to stop this is to education people, a lot of people just don't know the truth story about shark fin soup, most of them stop eating shark fin soup once they found out the true story behind it, including myself, and the ones that do the catching usually occur in South American or Africa, they basically just do it because of money. So if you hate me because i am Chinese or i am from HK, i haven't eat shark fin soup for many years, and i never will again... __________________ www.vapercompany.com

01-08-2013, 01:56 PM	#14
vincentek9 MAYNEE-YAK Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: So Cal Posts: 533	the problem clearly is..... they arent on ice. so they arent as fresh as can be. __________________

01-07-2013, 12:43 PM	#11
GregAndrew Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 2,384	Showing only videos like these to the public is exactly how the "blue shirts" got their following. That is why 80% of their numbers at the MLPA meetings had no clue that they were arguing irrelevant points. Most of their numbers thought that most species off our coast were almost extinct. They were teaching the school kids that we were "blowing up" fish and destroying coral reefs in our local waters. Don't get the tunnel vision that goes along with mob mentality.

01-07-2013, 10:34 PM	#18
GregAndrew Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 2,384	Redeye, the greenies you speak of now only want to preserve the wildlife for itself. They dont believe we are part of the natural food chain. The reason you only see dramatic footage is because that is what sells, and sells their causes to corporate backing. I know that I would not really be interested in watching a shark processing video (unless I was getting ready to process my own).