pump for my bait tank - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

Sdspeed · 10-05-2012, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by jruiz

I was referencing the Walmart one linked.

oh, All I saw was the price, didn't look at the details. My bad!

taggermike · 10-05-2012, 12:40 PM

That pump will turn your tank volume over plenty of times an hour. A 3 gallon square tank will be tight for macks or larger dines to swim in though. Make sure you have an inlet that allows you to change the circulation pattern. Mike

Sdspeed · 10-05-2012, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by taggermike

That pump will turn your tank volume over plenty of times an hour. A 3 gallon square tank will be tight for macks or larger dines to swim in though. Make sure you have an inlet that allows you to change the circulation pattern. Mike

I agree

How many gallons are the internal bait tanks that are in the Stealth 12's and other kayaks. The internal tank type not deck top. How much water do the pumps they install move?

Still on my drawing board but this will be for a 13 to 15 ft. yak.

jruiz · 10-05-2012, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Sdspeed

I agree

How many gallons are the internal bait tanks that are in the Stealth 12's and other kayaks. The internal tank type not deck top. How much water do the pumps they install move?

Still on my drawing board but this will be for a 13 to 15 ft. yak.

They're pretty small. A safe bet would be less than 5. They use the same tsunami bilge pump that the previous poster linked. In most cases though they reduce the duty cycle by having a timer. Or you can have a switch and turn it on every once in a while.

http://www.kayakfishingsupplies.com/...ll-Pump/Detail

Sdspeed · 10-05-2012, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by jruiz

They're pretty small. A safe bet would be less than 5. They use the same tsunami bilge pump that the previous poster linked. In most cases though they reduce the duty cycle by having a timer. Or you can have a switch and turn it on every once in a while.

http://www.kayakfishingsupplies.com/...ll-Pump/Detail

Thanks , that picture says a lot. I was planning on a timer since I get distracted easily.

tehburninator · 10-05-2012, 03:15 PM

i just finished building my tank last week

it's a 3.5 gal round bucket. the 3/4 exhaust was wayyyyyyyyyyyy too small, clogged up immediatly, so i put a 1 1/2 in and it's better now....

also been on a buddies boat recently, two different times, i notice the smaller baits last very long, while the big ones are not so fortunate.. and this was in a 15 gal tank.

and they were running i believe a 800gph pump at 12v

we got 1/2 scoop one day of dines 7-9 inches, and lasted about 3 hours before the last one was gone

we went the next day with same ammount, except this time they got new batch in of 5-7 inches... and these things lasted us 6 hours, we then went back to fill up again =)

so i know circulation is important, but i notice sometimes, having the right size bait makes a big difference =) at any rate, i would agree with the guys about the 500 pump run on 6v. i fooled around with mine on 12 v and that was not something i would want to swim in if i were i feesh

plus, running it at 50% should make the pump last a bit longer i believe

try using a resistor, or a capacitor in line to reduce the flow of the pump if you can

but then again, i dont know what im talking about =) good luck, hope to find you on the water sometime

jorluivil · 10-05-2012, 05:52 PM

I would stay away from running one battery for multiple units, I would run a 6volt for the bait pump and a 12volt for the ff/gps. What are you going to do if your battery fails or if you stay out longer than had originally anticipated?

Cbad Mike · 10-05-2012, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Sdspeed

I agree

How many gallons are the internal bait tanks that are in the Stealth 12's and other kayaks. The internal tank type not deck top. How much water do the pumps they install move?

Still on my drawing board but this will be for a 13 to 15 ft. yak.

I have never measured my tank on my Stealth but I'd say close to 4 gallons. I've never run the pump at full capacity I always adjust the inflow ALOT lower than what is possible.
As for the size... It does get a little cramped in there with a few good sized macks.
As for the battery I use one 12v for my ff and tank. I do not run my tank constantly but as needed and have been on the water for 13 hours without the battery going dead.

Sdspeed · 10-05-2012, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Cbad Mike

I have never measured my tank on my Stealth but I'd say close to 4 gallons. I've never run the pump at full capacity I always adjust the inflow ALOT lower than what is possible.
As for the size... It does get a little cramped in there with a few good sized macks.
As for the battery I use one 12v for my ff and tank. I do not run my tank constantly but as needed and have been on the water for 13 hours without the battery going dead.

Nothing better than hearing directly from a current user.The pump I'm considering only draws 640 ma so I still think I'd be okay with one battery but it's nice to get as much input as possible. I know I'd never last 13 hours!

GregAndrew · 10-06-2012, 07:09 AM

There are a lot of variables that can effect the answer to your question. Tank size and shape?
If you only go with 3-4 gallon tank you should use a round tank. It allows your bait to still swim without crashing into the sides. Don't think I would go with any less than a 5 gallon bucket.
FF draw?
A color or backlit grayscale FF will probably draw about the same as the pump and limit you to about 5-6 hours running both on a 7ah battery.
Type and amount of bait you plan on using?
Sardines require a lot of oxygen, and a scoop from the bait barge will require a lot of water flow. Macks and Squid are not so tempermental.

Get a dip net for scooping your bait out of the tank, it really helps with limited back movement.

10-05-2012, 03:15 PM	#6
tehburninator Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 96	bait tank. i just finished building my tank last week it's a 3.5 gal round bucket. the 3/4 exhaust was wayyyyyyyyyyyy too small, clogged up immediatly, so i put a 1 1/2 in and it's better now.... also been on a buddies boat recently, two different times, i notice the smaller baits last very long, while the big ones are not so fortunate.. and this was in a 15 gal tank. and they were running i believe a 800gph pump at 12v we got 1/2 scoop one day of dines 7-9 inches, and lasted about 3 hours before the last one was gone we went the next day with same ammount, except this time they got new batch in of 5-7 inches... and these things lasted us 6 hours, we then went back to fill up again =) so i know circulation is important, but i notice sometimes, having the right size bait makes a big difference =) at any rate, i would agree with the guys about the 500 pump run on 6v. i fooled around with mine on 12 v and that was not something i would want to swim in if i were i feesh plus, running it at 50% should make the pump last a bit longer i believe try using a resistor, or a capacitor in line to reduce the flow of the pump if you can but then again, i dont know what im talking about =) good luck, hope to find you on the water sometime

10-05-2012, 05:52 PM	#7
jorluivil Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 6,856	I would stay away from running one battery for multiple units, I would run a 6volt for the bait pump and a 12volt for the ff/gps. What are you going to do if your battery fails or if you stay out longer than had originally anticipated? __________________ www.facebook.com/Teamsewer

10-05-2012, 12:40 PM	#2
taggermike Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Chula Vista Posts: 1,589	That pump will turn your tank volume over plenty of times an hour. A 3 gallon square tank will be tight for macks or larger dines to swim in though. Make sure you have an inlet that allows you to change the circulation pattern. Mike

10-06-2012, 07:09 AM	#10
GregAndrew Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 2,384	There are a lot of variables that can effect the answer to your question. Tank size and shape? If you only go with 3-4 gallon tank you should use a round tank. It allows your bait to still swim without crashing into the sides. Don't think I would go with any less than a 5 gallon bucket. FF draw? A color or backlit grayscale FF will probably draw about the same as the pump and limit you to about 5-6 hours running both on a 7ah battery. Type and amount of bait you plan on using? Sardines require a lot of oxygen, and a scoop from the bait barge will require a lot of water flow. Macks and Squid are not so tempermental. Get a dip net for scooping your bait out of the tank, it really helps with limited back movement.