pump for my bait tank - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

jruiz · 10-05-2012, 09:49 AM

I think a 500GPH at 12V would be too much flow. You would need a really big drain to be able to keep up at 100% duty cycle. Even my rule 360 @ 6V can barely keep up with a 3/4" drain. I'm planning to changeto a 1.5" soon.

Sdspeed · 10-05-2012, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by jruiz

I think a 500GPH at 12V would be too much flow. You would need a really big drain to be able to keep up at 100% duty cycle. Even my rule 360 @ 6V can barely keep up with a 3/4" drain. I'm planning to changeto a 1.5" soon.

That's why this pump at 100 gph on 12v should move enough water and I'll only have to carry 1 battery to operate it and my FF.
It can be submerged in saltwater but doesn't have to be.

jruiz · 10-05-2012, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Sdspeed

That's why this pump at 100 gph on 12v should move enough water and I'll only have to carry 1 battery to operate it and my FF.
It can be submerged in saltwater but doesn't have to be.

I was referencing the Walmart one linked.

Sdspeed · 10-05-2012, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by jruiz

I was referencing the Walmart one linked.

oh, All I saw was the price, didn't look at the details. My bad!

taggermike · 10-05-2012, 12:40 PM

That pump will turn your tank volume over plenty of times an hour. A 3 gallon square tank will be tight for macks or larger dines to swim in though. Make sure you have an inlet that allows you to change the circulation pattern. Mike

Sdspeed · 10-05-2012, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by taggermike

That pump will turn your tank volume over plenty of times an hour. A 3 gallon square tank will be tight for macks or larger dines to swim in though. Make sure you have an inlet that allows you to change the circulation pattern. Mike

I agree

How many gallons are the internal bait tanks that are in the Stealth 12's and other kayaks. The internal tank type not deck top. How much water do the pumps they install move?

Still on my drawing board but this will be for a 13 to 15 ft. yak.

jruiz · 10-05-2012, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Sdspeed

I agree

How many gallons are the internal bait tanks that are in the Stealth 12's and other kayaks. The internal tank type not deck top. How much water do the pumps they install move?

Still on my drawing board but this will be for a 13 to 15 ft. yak.

They're pretty small. A safe bet would be less than 5. They use the same tsunami bilge pump that the previous poster linked. In most cases though they reduce the duty cycle by having a timer. Or you can have a switch and turn it on every once in a while.

http://www.kayakfishingsupplies.com/...ll-Pump/Detail

Cbad Mike · 10-05-2012, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Sdspeed

I agree

How many gallons are the internal bait tanks that are in the Stealth 12's and other kayaks. The internal tank type not deck top. How much water do the pumps they install move?

Still on my drawing board but this will be for a 13 to 15 ft. yak.

I have never measured my tank on my Stealth but I'd say close to 4 gallons. I've never run the pump at full capacity I always adjust the inflow ALOT lower than what is possible.
As for the size... It does get a little cramped in there with a few good sized macks.
As for the battery I use one 12v for my ff and tank. I do not run my tank constantly but as needed and have been on the water for 13 hours without the battery going dead.

Jimmyz123 · 10-06-2012, 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by jruiz

I think a 500GPH at 12V would be too much flow. You would need a really big drain to be able to keep up at 100% duty cycle. Even my rule 360 @ 6V can barely keep up with a 3/4" drain. I'm planning to changeto a 1.5" soon.

This is the one I have used many times with no issues with flow or anything. I think many of the bait tanks use this type of pump. I have seen some using 360GPH but for the most part this one
http://www.attwoodmarine.com/store/p...500gph-12-volt

If you install a spray head that you can control the amount of spray you can cut down the flow, but also think of this. Dines use a lot of Oxygen and the water needs to be circulate well for them to stay alive. Most will use timers to control the inflow so that the pump is not always going. Trust me the 500GPH pump is worth it and at walmart is often only about $20 on it's own.

Sdspeed · 10-06-2012, 07:23 AM

Thanks all, a lot of variables and I appreciate the input. I'll let ya know how it all pans out.

taggermike · 10-06-2012, 08:18 AM

I built a pump/water proof batery box set up like 8 years ago that finally bit the dust. I needed a cheap replacement quick so went to home depo and bought a 36" hand piston pump. I thought I'd use it only until I got my electric system rebuilt but it was so simple and worked so well I just kept using it. At 4 strokes to the gallon just a few strokes every few minutes keeps the bait fine. Not sugesting every one go to this low tech but as a back up for when you forget to put your battery on the charger or go to baja when you can't charge a battery it is an option. You should have a hand pump on you yak any way. Mike

http://www.homedepot.com/webapp/wcs/...7592%2d%5f%2dx

10-05-2012, 09:49 AM	#1
jruiz Large Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: La Verne, CA Posts: 1,011	I think a 500GPH at 12V would be too much flow. You would need a really big drain to be able to keep up at 100% duty cycle. Even my rule 360 @ 6V can barely keep up with a 3/4" drain. I'm planning to changeto a 1.5" soon.

10-05-2012, 12:40 PM	#5
taggermike Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Chula Vista Posts: 1,589	That pump will turn your tank volume over plenty of times an hour. A 3 gallon square tank will be tight for macks or larger dines to swim in though. Make sure you have an inlet that allows you to change the circulation pattern. Mike

10-06-2012, 07:23 AM	#10
Sdspeed Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: San Diego Posts: 732	Thanks all, a lot of variables and I appreciate the input. I'll let ya know how it all pans out.

10-06-2012, 08:18 AM	#11
taggermike Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Chula Vista Posts: 1,589	I built a pump/water proof batery box set up like 8 years ago that finally bit the dust. I needed a cheap replacement quick so went to home depo and bought a 36" hand piston pump. I thought I'd use it only until I got my electric system rebuilt but it was so simple and worked so well I just kept using it. At 4 strokes to the gallon just a few strokes every few minutes keeps the bait fine. Not sugesting every one go to this low tech but as a back up for when you forget to put your battery on the charger or go to baja when you can't charge a battery it is an option. You should have a hand pump on you yak any way. Mike http://www.homedepot.com/webapp/wcs/...7592%2d%5f%2dx