Labor day fishing - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

lowprofile · 09-04-2012, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Aaron&Julie

Hey, I didn't know this. Because a 7-gill doesn't have a swim bladder and isn't very dense, it won't show up on a fish finder? Very, very intersesting.

How does this explain squid?

usually you can see the egg sacks as a soft bottom over a hard bottom or sandy bottom. i'm not sure we actually see the squid themselves.

Deamon · 09-04-2012, 02:14 PM

I would never want to see the tax man in his own backyard, thank you. Always great to read your opinions and posts Aaron.You've jump started me on the bugging when I've hit some slow times as well. Good job!

Aaron&Julie · 09-04-2012, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Deamon

I would never want to see the tax man in his own backyard, thank you. Always great to read your opinions and posts Aaron.You've jump started me on the bugging when I've hit some slow times as well. Good job!

Thanks, Deamon, you're a kind thoughtful, man, my man. P.S. I hate the tax man, too

seriola_killer · 09-04-2012, 02:33 PM

What about kelp? It's soft and doesn't have a swim bladder?

lowprofile · 09-04-2012, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by seriola_killer

What about kelp? It's soft and doesn't have a swim bladder?

lol it has air in it though right? i dont know. look it up.

ful-rac · 09-04-2012, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by lowprofile

usually you can see the egg sacks as a soft bottom over a hard bottom or sandy bottom. i'm not sure we actually see the squid themselves.

Yes you can meter squid, and I'm sure that you can meter the giant 7gill shark that's under you too...!

YakMedic · 09-04-2012, 03:02 PM

First off thanks for the report.

Second, the swim bladder is what creates the tell tale arch seen on a sonar. Ultrasound does not get a return from air so a fish mark shows as an arch due to fish shape and swim bladder. With this thought process you will still see a seven gill shark, it just won't appear as an arch. The same way we see structure on a finder.

Thanks again Aaron and Julie for the timeliness.

GregAndrew · 09-04-2012, 03:56 PM

You guys all seem to need a little refresher course on using your FFs.
http://www.bdoutdoors.com/article/so...to-mark-wisch/

GregAndrew · 09-04-2012, 04:44 PM

Sorry to threadjack Aaron and Julie. Thanks for the timely report and good read.

Aaron&Julie · 09-04-2012, 07:16 PM

Oh, hell, Greg, you ain't doing that. Good information is good information in our eyes. Besides, our report was one of opening eyes, I think we accomplished that. It's all good. As much as I think I know, I can probably squeeze a little more knowledge in there, so long as it comes from competent sources.
I've been doing the ocean scene for 40+ years, much to learn, but don't tell me my crap, like the female lifeguard making sure of 4WD at the launch. To quote her, "No machinery has EVER been on the La Jollla Shores". My ass. I suppose those 4 foot high, 4 foot wide, 10 foot long mounds of sand that I personally saw being assembled by bulldozers were actually being assembled by sand dozers, a natural phenonomenon found in nature. Personally, I thought she was a c&%$#. I could quote other reasons, but let your own experiences judge her.

Aaron

icelogger · 09-05-2012, 07:11 AM

Great Trip Report! And great read on FF's.

09-04-2012, 02:33 PM	#4
seriola_killer Sled Peddler Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Bonita, Ca. Posts: 236	What about kelp? It's soft and doesn't have a swim bladder? __________________ Jerry Moore Need a car or truck to yaul your yak? Ring me up. (619)988-3325

09-04-2012, 07:16 PM	#10
Aaron&Julie Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Spring Valley Posts: 1,400	Oh, hell, Greg, you ain't doing that. Good information is good information in our eyes. Besides, our report was one of opening eyes, I think we accomplished that. It's all good. As much as I think I know, I can probably squeeze a little more knowledge in there, so long as it comes from competent sources. I've been doing the ocean scene for 40+ years, much to learn, but don't tell me my crap, like the female lifeguard making sure of 4WD at the launch. To quote her, "No machinery has EVER been on the La Jollla Shores". My ass. I suppose those 4 foot high, 4 foot wide, 10 foot long mounds of sand that I personally saw being assembled by bulldozers were actually being assembled by sand dozers, a natural phenonomenon found in nature. Personally, I thought she was a c&%$#. I could quote other reasons, but let your own experiences judge her. Aaron __________________ "Never say die"

09-04-2012, 02:14 PM	#2
Deamon Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,972	I would never want to see the tax man in his own backyard, thank you. Always great to read your opinions and posts Aaron.You've jump started me on the bugging when I've hit some slow times as well. Good job!

09-04-2012, 03:02 PM	#7
YakMedic Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Wrightwood Posts: 623	First off thanks for the report. Second, the swim bladder is what creates the tell tale arch seen on a sonar. Ultrasound does not get a return from air so a fish mark shows as an arch due to fish shape and swim bladder. With this thought process you will still see a seven gill shark, it just won't appear as an arch. The same way we see structure on a finder. Thanks again Aaron and Julie for the timeliness.

09-04-2012, 03:56 PM	#8
GregAndrew Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 2,384	You guys all seem to need a little refresher course on using your FFs. http://www.bdoutdoors.com/article/so...to-mark-wisch/

09-04-2012, 04:44 PM	#9
GregAndrew Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 2,384	Sorry to threadjack Aaron and Julie. Thanks for the timely report and good read.

09-05-2012, 07:11 AM	#11
icelogger Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: All over the country Posts: 109	Great Trip Report! And great read on FF's.