LJ this afternoon - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

467echo · 07-31-2012, 11:03 AM

Look for someone catching bait and has a ff and scoot in close. Most peeps wont mind if you are close if all they have in the water is their sabiki. And they will probably tell where in the column the bait is hanging out. Good luck

taggermike · 07-31-2012, 12:18 PM

Icelogger, seeing boiling fish that won't bite is a frustrating situation. The fish we have around here each have thier look or stye when they surface feed. Calis tend to make a splash and will often throw in a tail flip as they go back down. The will also rush along the surface chasing bait with thier backs 1/2 out of the water. Cuda will splash and usually show them selves in slashing low leaps across the surface. When bonito are around they can really put on a show. They will get tight in an area and form a true "foamer" where the surface of the sea is covered in white water. They will also come clear out of the water and summersalt in the air. I have found YT to be more subtle. They rarely come out of the water or show thier bodies. Often you see deep boils, like toilet flushes, with no splash and maybe just a flash of the fish if the sun is right. I can't say what fish you saw but they might have been on micro bait and a big surface iron didn't match the hatch. When the fish are focussed on micro bait or krill I have had some success using a small white iron, 2-3 oz, pulled fast through the area. Long post but I get obsessed with surface fishing. Mike

Fisherman4454 · 07-31-2012, 12:51 PM

I don't have a fish finder either and I rarely have an issue finding bait. Edges of the kelp are good most of the time, but when that doesn't work I like to troll my sabiki to find the schools. I've found that when I troll in relatively open water, I pretty much strictly catch greenbacks. When I hook one I drop her back down and try to fill the tank.

Now if I could just figure out what to do with them once Ive got em in the tank...

07-31-2012, 11:03 AM	#1
467echo Rookie of the Month Club Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Mira Mesa Posts: 483	Look for someone catching bait and has a ff and scoot in close. Most peeps wont mind if you are close if all they have in the water is their sabiki. And they will probably tell where in the column the bait is hanging out. Good luck __________________ they are getting bigger....

07-31-2012, 12:18 PM	#2
taggermike Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Chula Vista Posts: 1,589	Icelogger, seeing boiling fish that won't bite is a frustrating situation. The fish we have around here each have thier look or stye when they surface feed. Calis tend to make a splash and will often throw in a tail flip as they go back down. The will also rush along the surface chasing bait with thier backs 1/2 out of the water. Cuda will splash and usually show them selves in slashing low leaps across the surface. When bonito are around they can really put on a show. They will get tight in an area and form a true "foamer" where the surface of the sea is covered in white water. They will also come clear out of the water and summersalt in the air. I have found YT to be more subtle. They rarely come out of the water or show thier bodies. Often you see deep boils, like toilet flushes, with no splash and maybe just a flash of the fish if the sun is right. I can't say what fish you saw but they might have been on micro bait and a big surface iron didn't match the hatch. When the fish are focussed on micro bait or krill I have had some success using a small white iron, 2-3 oz, pulled fast through the area. Long post but I get obsessed with surface fishing. Mike

07-31-2012, 12:51 PM	#3
Fisherman4454 Junior Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 19	I don't have a fish finder either and I rarely have an issue finding bait. Edges of the kelp are good most of the time, but when that doesn't work I like to troll my sabiki to find the schools. I've found that when I troll in relatively open water, I pretty much strictly catch greenbacks. When I hook one I drop her back down and try to fill the tank. Now if I could just figure out what to do with them once Ive got em in the tank...