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Old 04-05-2012, 07:07 PM   #1
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Replacing the lead is quicker vs retying the trap rig. Otherwise, pretty much what jorluivil said.

I agree but I would rather loose a circle hook and treble hook before I loose an 8oz sinker.
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Old 04-05-2012, 10:27 PM   #2
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Jim Day has a method of tying a trap rig that will increase your hook ups.

Read his post #24 Trap rig in gear with light drag.
Use 20 lb spectra to tie the trap.

I use 15 lb. fluro and my hook up percentage goes way up.
-I'm not a good enough fisherman to hook up with 30 lb.

Read it here --> http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwevb/s...halibut&page=2
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Old 04-06-2012, 08:35 AM   #3
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I have only used a trap rig many years ago and didn't have luck with it
how should I set up a trap rig?
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Old 04-06-2012, 11:14 AM   #4
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They sell trap hook set ups already set up for like 2 bucks in the shops....use a heavy weight to attract them, have a nice swimming sardine and you should be set..remember though, the big ones most likely aren't going to scrape at the bait. They are going to inhale it. So using a trap hook for the big ones is pretty much useless.but if your in an area with all the little brothers and sisters, a trap hook is definetly a good thing to have. Good luck.
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Old 04-06-2012, 11:37 AM   #5
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They sell trap hook set ups already set up for like 2 bucks in the shops..
where are these shops I don't have many decent places to shop at
since turners went to shit
all I have now it BPS due to me living in running springs
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Old 04-06-2012, 12:35 PM   #6
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where are these shops I don't have many decent places to shop at
since turners went to shit
all I have now it BPS due to me living in running springs
They have them at BPS. I think they're around $3.95.
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Old 04-06-2012, 12:38 PM   #7
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In the salt water area or fresh?
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Old 04-06-2012, 03:04 PM   #8
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I have only used a trap rig many years ago and didn't have luck with it
how should I set up a trap rig?
Bigger Halibut have zero problem getting themselves hooked without the need for a trap hook. If you're getting raked, it's because of the non-legals that are doing that, and you don't want to catch those anyway. I.M.H.O. trap hooks are vastly overrated and do more harm than good in two ways:

1. The bait doesn't swim as naturally as possible.

2. Shorts get all mangled up when trying to remove the treble.

To me (again, my personal opinion only), the cons outweigh the pros.
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Old 04-06-2012, 03:18 PM   #9
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Bigger Halibut have zero problem getting themselves hooked without the need for a trap hook. If you're getting raked, it's because of the non-legals that are doing that, and you don't want to catch those anyway. I.M.H.O. trap hooks are vastly overrated and do more harm than good in two ways:

1. The bait doesn't swim as naturally as possible.

Use a longer leader for the trap hook so that it allows more movement. When the bait is lively I can feel it moving around and can see the tip of my rod shake.


2. Shorts get all mangled up when trying to remove the treble.

True.....and you tend to end up with lots of bycatch

To me (again, my personal opinion only), the cons outweigh the pros.
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Old 04-06-2012, 05:29 PM   #10
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I agree but I would rather loose a circle hook and treble hook before I loose an 8oz sinker.
Fortunately, I have many 8oz bounce balls collected from back in the day. I hear you though, lead is not cheap anymore. We are on the same page though, stay on the bottom and draw attention to your bait!

The link BillyV provided has great info, the trap hook answer depends on the conditions. If you're getting raked, add a trap.
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Old 04-06-2012, 05:32 PM   #11
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Old 04-07-2012, 08:03 AM   #12
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I agree but I would rather loose a circle hook and treble hook before I loose an 8oz sinker.
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Old 04-07-2012, 11:56 AM   #13
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If you want to set up a trap rig you can snell the front hook and then use a perfection loop to attach the back hook. When I worked at the Hubs Hatchery we kept halibut brood stock. I spent years feeding these large fish and noticed that when they wanted to eat, they ate. They would come 10 feet off the bottom and inhale sardines and mackeral. No biting, or mouthing. I've seen halis T-bone a big mack and the bait just folded in half and went down the hatch. I instructed a new employee on how to feed the halibut. I said when you see them come off the bottom you need to drop the bait. She walked away with the feed bucket and walked back with blood running off her hand like 2 minutes later. Her comment was that they moved WAY faster than she ever thought the could. That was a fun injury report. They may have behaved differently in our tanks but they were wild fish. The 3 largest halibt I have ever caught were taken on single circle hooks. Mike
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Old 04-07-2012, 12:02 PM   #14
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She walked away with the feed bucket and walked back with blood running off her hand like 2 minutes later. Her comment was that they moved WAY faster than she ever thought the could. That was a fun injury report.
Now I would laugh my ass off so hard!!
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