Reel placement... - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

03-29-2012, 10:28 PM

I have a 8' Teremar Heavy action 20-40lb I'm going to start using to throw my surface irons. Its a 1-4oz lure weight.
I chose the rod because the Tady A1, Tady C, Tady 45 and Salas 7x all fall into that weight range.

I have an Avet SX MC to pair with it. I'm wondering where you guys find it more comfortable to place the reel since there is no seat on this rod. I had it about just over 1/2 way up and it feels a little awkward to throw. I put it there because it was a used rod and thats where the prior owner had placed it, and it seemed like a good starting point. I'm thinking of moving it closer to the butt of the rod, maybe 3-4 inches from the bottom. I feel like I'm choking up on a baseball bat when I throw it like it is.

I know this is something we all will have our own preference to, so I guess what I'm asking is where should I place it to get the most power, I can learn to adjust if it feels weird.

Thank you
Neill

gupppy · 03-29-2012, 11:01 PM

Try leveling the but with your elbow and puttin the reel where your hand would be. Then go from there. Kinda like cheating with a bat.

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Originally Posted by Drake

I have a 8' Teremar Heavy action 20-40lb I'm going to start using to throw my surface irons. Its a 1-4oz lure weight.
I chose the rod because the Tady A1, Tady C, Tady 45 and Salas 7x all fall into that weight range.

I have an Avet SX MC to pair with it. I'm wondering where you guys find it more comfortable to place the reel since there is no seat on this rod. I had it about just over 1/2 way up and it feels a little awkward to throw. I put it there because it was a used rod and thats where the prior owner had placed it, and it seemed like a good starting point. I'm thinking of moving it closer to the butt of the rod, maybe 3-4 inches from the bottom. I feel like I'm choking up on a baseball bat when I throw it like it is.

I know this is something we all will have our own preference to, so I guess what I'm asking is where should I place it to get the most power, I can learn to adjust if it feels weird.

Thank you
Neill

Hunters Pa · 03-30-2012, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by gupppy

Try leveling the but with your elbow and puttin the reel where your hand would be. Then go from there. Kinda like cheating with a bat.

That's how I position the seat when building a rod.

seriola_killer · 03-30-2012, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Hunters Pa

That's how I position the seat when building a rod.

This has always worked for me as well.

min-va · 03-30-2012, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by gupppy

Try leveling the but with your elbow and puttin the reel where your hand would be. Then go from there. Kinda like cheating with a bat.

x2

swank · 03-30-2012, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Hunters Pa

That's how I position the seat when building a rod.

x2

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Originally Posted by gupppy

Try leveling the but with your elbow and puttin the reel where your hand would be. Then go from there. Kinda like cheating with a bat.

x3

edit: You might want to look into getting a Cork Puppy, its super easy to crush the cork tape and deform your handle on the Teramars. Its also easier to adjust IMO.

bus kid · 03-30-2012, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by swank

x2

x3

edit: You might want to look into getting a Cork Puppy, its super easy to crush the cork tape and deform your handle on the Teramars. Its also easier to adjust IMO.

x4 on the placement.
X2 on the cork puppy.

03-30-2012, 12:19 PM

I wish someone would say something useful sheesh!

Jk, I don't think I've ever seen so many X2 X3 X4 in any post.
Looks like I know how I'm setting my reel

Hunters Pa · 03-30-2012, 03:24 PM

On my corktapes I use some heat shrink where I mount the reel to help protect the cork

grey zone · 03-30-2012, 03:42 PM

My reel placement for jig and bait rods are slightly different. Placement on a jig rod is further from the butt, slightly past the comfortable position for me. For jig rods I bend my arm 90 degrees level the butt to the back of my elbow and center the reel under the tip of my middle finger. For my bait set-ups I put the butt at the bend of my arm and center the reel in the same place.

lowprofile · 03-30-2012, 04:38 PM

all my customs are for distance fishing from shore, except one. but i measure out the butt length to where my hands will be at the end of the cast. most of my surf rods are around 32" to the reel seat. but you can do the same for a yak rod. sit in your kayak and hold the rod. make a practice cast the same way you would if the reel was on there and however you find it most comfortable, at the end of that cast note where your hand is thats furthest up the butt... place your reel there.

HatterasCast · 03-30-2012, 08:03 PM

My fishing background is primarily east coast.... Cape Hatteras North Carolina to be exact.

The rods im using are probably similar to the surf rods mentioned in the post above. General rule of thumb for distance casting (at "the point", you need 100-150yd casts every time if you want to catch the big drums or stripers) extend your arm straight out to your side at shoulder level. Take the butt of your rod and put it into your arm pit. Where your "reel hand" is now holding onto the cork is where you should place your reel.

I use this same method when setting up my rods for throwing iron. It might look a little different then everyone else. But if you really know how to fling the iron and utilize a solid distance casting technique (i.e. Hatteras Cast ect.) It'll feel really comfortable when you push with your "reel hand" and pull with your "cork hand" into the butt of your arm pit.

Trust me it works wonders for distance. Proof is in these pics...

MarkT · 03-30-2012, 09:23 PM

From a yak you might want the reel up a little higher than the standard elbow to hand to make it easier to have the butt under your arm when fighting the fish.

gupppy · 03-30-2012, 09:37 PM

the way i look at it, even though the reel might be placed lower for more distance, it may not be the most comfortable. again, with the bat analogy, you want to try to knock it out of the park by having your hands at the butt, but even though it may be technically the most powerful position, it's not the most efficient. try it out a few times to whatever feels the best.

lowprofile · 03-30-2012, 10:41 PM

The reel goes higher for more leverage and distance unless you're doing a back cast then the reel goes at the bottom of the handle. But that's done for surf fishing with8oz or more and bait getting100+ yard casts .

lowprofile · 03-31-2012, 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by HatterasCast

My fishing background is primarily east coast.... Cape Hatteras North Carolina to be exact.

The rods im using are probably similar to the surf rods mentioned in the post above. General rule of thumb for distance casting (at "the point", you need 100-150yd casts every time if you want to catch the big drums or stripers) extend your arm straight out to your side at shoulder level. Take the butt of your rod and put it into your arm pit. Where your "reel hand" is now holding onto the cork is where you should place your reel.

I use this same method when setting up my rods for throwing iron. It might look a little different then everyone else. But if you really know how to fling the iron and utilize a solid distance casting technique (i.e. Hatteras Cast ect.) It'll feel really comfortable when you push with your "reel hand" and pull with your "cork hand" into the butt of your arm pit.

Trust me it works wonders for distance. Proof is in these pics...

I'd like to see some of your techniques from the east coast. did you bring your rods with you? I'm throwing 6oz and half macks 80-90yrds with 30lb mono on a custom 13ft CUI rod and Abu Big Game 9000CT and also just perfected a long clip down rig with 90lb wire that im able to consistently hit 100yrds with 3oz and a whole squid with 20lb mono on a custom Rainshadow SU1386f and Daiwa sealine-X 30sha both using the hateras cast.

taggermike · 03-31-2012, 02:25 PM

The fore arm length is a general rule of thumb but it usually works out well enough. I recently found out how important reel placement is. I've had a seeker ulua for years now and never really like it. Those sticks have a large butt diameter so I just placed the reel as far down as the reel mounting bolts allowed. The rod always felt awkward, didn't cast as well as I thought it should, and when I used it on the kayak the longer butt section would some times hang up on my legs or package during a cast. I got a different reel and bought a pair of longer bolts so I could put the reel the elbow to finger distance. The new reel palcement made a HUGE difference. every thing just fes right now. You might want to try different placements and see what works best for you. Mike

03-29-2012, 10:28 PM	#1
Drake Guest Posts: n/a	Reel placement... I have a 8' Teremar Heavy action 20-40lb I'm going to start using to throw my surface irons. Its a 1-4oz lure weight. I chose the rod because the Tady A1, Tady C, Tady 45 and Salas 7x all fall into that weight range. I have an Avet SX MC to pair with it. I'm wondering where you guys find it more comfortable to place the reel since there is no seat on this rod. I had it about just over 1/2 way up and it feels a little awkward to throw. I put it there because it was a used rod and thats where the prior owner had placed it, and it seemed like a good starting point. I'm thinking of moving it closer to the butt of the rod, maybe 3-4 inches from the bottom. I feel like I'm choking up on a baseball bat when I throw it like it is. I know this is something we all will have our own preference to, so I guess what I'm asking is where should I place it to get the most power, I can learn to adjust if it feels weird. Thank you Neill

03-30-2012, 04:38 PM	#11
lowprofile #1 on fishstick's hitlist Join Date: May 2011 Location: Sea level Posts: 1,478	all my customs are for distance fishing from shore, except one. but i measure out the butt length to where my hands will be at the end of the cast. most of my surf rods are around 32" to the reel seat. but you can do the same for a yak rod. sit in your kayak and hold the rod. make a practice cast the same way you would if the reel was on there and however you find it most comfortable, at the end of that cast note where your hand is thats furthest up the butt... place your reel there. __________________ MLPA- My Largest Poaching Area

03-30-2012, 10:41 PM	#15
lowprofile #1 on fishstick's hitlist Join Date: May 2011 Location: Sea level Posts: 1,478	The reel goes higher for more leverage and distance unless you're doing a back cast then the reel goes at the bottom of the handle. But that's done for surf fishing with8oz or more and bait getting100+ yard casts . __________________ MLPA- My Largest Poaching Area

03-30-2012, 12:19 PM	#8
Drake Guest Posts: n/a	I wish someone would say something useful sheesh! Jk, I don't think I've ever seen so many X2 X3 X4 in any post. Looks like I know how I'm setting my reel

03-30-2012, 03:24 PM	#9
Hunters Pa Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Fullerton Posts: 1,359	On my corktapes I use some heat shrink where I mount the reel to help protect the cork

03-30-2012, 03:42 PM	#10
grey zone Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: san diego Posts: 158	My reel placement for jig and bait rods are slightly different. Placement on a jig rod is further from the butt, slightly past the comfortable position for me. For jig rods I bend my arm 90 degrees level the butt to the back of my elbow and center the reel under the tip of my middle finger. For my bait set-ups I put the butt at the bend of my arm and center the reel in the same place.

03-30-2012, 09:23 PM	#13
MarkT Deep Release Specialist Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Mission Viejo Posts: 94	From a yak you might want the reel up a little higher than the standard elbow to hand to make it easier to have the butt under your arm when fighting the fish.

03-30-2012, 09:37 PM	#14
gupppy Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: IE Posts: 171	the way i look at it, even though the reel might be placed lower for more distance, it may not be the most comfortable. again, with the bat analogy, you want to try to knock it out of the park by having your hands at the butt, but even though it may be technically the most powerful position, it's not the most efficient. try it out a few times to whatever feels the best.

03-31-2012, 02:25 PM	#17
taggermike Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Chula Vista Posts: 1,589	The fore arm length is a general rule of thumb but it usually works out well enough. I recently found out how important reel placement is. I've had a seeker ulua for years now and never really like it. Those sticks have a large butt diameter so I just placed the reel as far down as the reel mounting bolts allowed. The rod always felt awkward, didn't cast as well as I thought it should, and when I used it on the kayak the longer butt section would some times hang up on my legs or package during a cast. I got a different reel and bought a pair of longer bolts so I could put the reel the elbow to finger distance. The new reel palcement made a HUGE difference. every thing just fes right now. You might want to try different placements and see what works best for you. Mike