MLPA Closures Will Start Jan 1

[RK]

Its a shame yellowtail look so much like overgrown hybrid spanish macs

I mean.........

"coastal pelagic finbait"

Thanks Paul and everyone for everything we just wanna go fishing..........

[YakMedic]

I'm so mad I could kick a baby.

Thanks Paul for all the work you put in. I need to hit BKR one last time before this BS kicks in.

[PAL]

There's a lot to say, but for now I'll leave it at this:

That we kept ANY part of La Jolla open was due to the unprecedented group effort by passionate kayak anglers and spear divers. If we hadn't fought that rearguard action, it would have been a clean sweep at LJ.

You can travel through MPAs with fishing gear on board but not in use.

The MPA maps in my WON story need another close look. There's a chance some of the boundaries have shifted slightly over the past two rounds of tweaks. Because you can legally fish right up to the line but not over, it's important to get it right. The DFG has used inaccurate spotting methods to enforce MPAs up north. Don't rely on my maps, it's your ass on the line.

No one outside the DFG knows with certainty how they will enforce the MPAs in the short term. They may start off with warnings. They may not. ALSO - the Jan 1 start date may not have the force of law. The state Administrative Procedures Act sets a 30-day timetable for new regulations to go into effect. That would put the date at Jan 8, not the 1st, but you better be ready to fight a citation in court. We may know more about this by the end of the week.

What happened at Dume in Malibu is a disgusting travesty. It's the same in Laguna. Those cities will never see dime one from me. I feel the same about Zev Yaroslavsky's LA County 3rd district. It's Malibu and part of the San Fernando Valley. Dead to me. Don't forget Surfrider's involvement, or Heal the Bay, San Diego Coastkeeper, the Monterey Bay Aquarium, and so on.

That's enough for now.

[Regor]

My question is - How can "the man" enforce such a boundary without officially marking (as the buoys do now)?

Just by throwing out a bunch of coordinates doesn't do a thing for non-GPS boats/kayaks.

Seems that until they are marked (if marked), this will be hard to enforce in front of a judge.

Any legal precedence?

[Rocket]

Wow unbelievable bs! So sorry my socal brothers. We have had similiar threats here in Hawaii, we need to pay attention to what has happened here and prepare to fight it also. Very scary to see it all go down now as it will most likey be an example our local government pays a lot of attention to. Keep fighting!

[blitzburgh]

Originally Posted by PAL

What happened at Dume in Malibu is a disgusting travesty. It's the same in Laguna. Those cities will never see dime one from me. I feel the same about Zev Yaroslavsky's LA County 3rd district. It's Malibu and part of the San Fernando Valley. Dead to me. Don't forget Surfrider's involvement, or Heal the Bay, San Diego Coastkeeper, the Monterey Bay Aquarium, and so on.
That's enough for now.

I would love to see a "Black-list" of some sort we can refer to when it comes to this. I for one cannot remember all of the names & organizations who railed us with this. Mods, anyway we can get a sticky page with this info on it?

[mtnbykr2]

[QUOTE=blitzburgh;102558]I would love to see a "Black-list" of some sort we can refer to when it comes to this. I for one cannot remember all of the names & organizations who railed us with this. Mods, anyway we can get a sticky page with this info on it?[/QUOTE

I think a "black list" is a great idea, if we could get a list of all involved in this BS travesty so as to be able to vote them out, as well as keep an eye on their shananigans, interests and organizations, maybe we can
take care of some business that way

[Iceman]

They are counting on $50,000,000 to come from our license purchases. I think a boycott and some fundraising to pay anyone fined may be an avenue to kick em in the nuts.

[wiredantz]

i am bummed out

[JoeBeck]

Originally Posted by Iceman

They are counting on $50,000,000 to come from our license purchases. I think a boycott and some fundraising to pay anyone fined may be an avenue to kick em in the nuts.

Give my fishing license money to Mexico instead. Some good fishing a jump across the border.......

This whole thing sucks!

[Aaron&Julie]

Originally Posted by Iceman

They are counting on $50,000,000 to come from our license purchases. I think a boycott and some fundraising to pay anyone fined may be an avenue to kick em in the nuts.

Great thought about the fundraising to cover those fined. One problem is those who only fish freshwater aren't likely to join the group, and get behind a boycott. Also, unfortunately they probably outnumber us saltwater fishermen.
A huge occupation of the south La Jolla closure, by kayakers and private boaters on Jan 1st, with a few news stations contacted ahead of time, might help in an another appeal process, to overturn this ridiculous closure, if that is even possible, anymore. Maybe open up the possibility of these closures being put on a general election ballot, to be overturned. I'm just speculating. If we could get a turn-out like a Moyer tournament, plus boaters, or even more than that, with news Helicopters televising a mass occupation, it could turn some heads. Or is this just wishful thinking?

[ChefT]

Originally Posted by Iceman

They are counting on $50,000,000 to come from our license purchases. I think a boycott and some fundraising to pay anyone fined may be an avenue to kick em in the nuts.

CAN I GET THE FIRST KICK....

Can we start a BWE fishing license fund.... and donate it to charity like HUBS

[Billy V]

Originally Posted by Iceman

They are counting on $50,000,000 to come from our license purchases. I think a boycott and some fundraising to pay anyone fined may be an avenue to kick em in the nuts.

That is an accurate number.
I posted the revenue DFG has received for the past 10 years from License Sales. It was somewhere around 50 Million per year.

We can Win Decisively by Not buying a Kalifornia Fishing License

-We have this bad economy on our side and could deliver a crippling blow to DFG and the state.

It will take discipline and sacrifice, but make no mistake withholding 50 Million would cut their balls off.

[Tman]

Originally Posted by PAL

No one outside the DFG knows with certainty how they will enforce the MPAs in the short term. They may start off with warnings. They may not. ALSO - the Jan 1 start date may not have the force of law. The state Administrative Procedures Act sets a 30-day timetable for new regulations to go into effect. That would put the date at Jan 8, not the 1st, but you better be ready to fight a citation in court. We may know more about this by the end of the week.

What happened at Dume in Malibu is a disgusting travesty. It's the same in Laguna. Those cities will never see dime one from me. I feel the same about Zev Yaroslavsky's LA County 3rd district. It's Malibu and part of the San Fernando Valley. Dead to me. Don't forget Surfrider's involvement, or Heal the Bay, San Diego Coastkeeper, the Monterey Bay Aquarium, and so on.

That's enough for now.

Thanks again Paul. All mention orgs should be boycotted completely, esp smurfrider and hell the bay. Scratch Monterey aquarium off the list of places to visit.

I for one am not going down without a fight. Will be holding off buying my license til the day before I plan to go out, hell may even buy a one dayer.

I'm definitely gonna be pushing the envelope on this one as to where I can and can't fish, and the burden of proof will be up to them in court proving when and where I caught the fish I am legally allowed to take...