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Old 11-10-2014, 07:25 AM   #1
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Fish Finder Selection

I am in the market for a new fish finder/gps. I have been looking around the internet and previous threads on this site. But I am still having a hard time pulling the trigger on a unit. Wanted to get the opinion of the board to help me make my mind up. I don't have any on water experience with the units I am looking at myself. But I know a few people that have the lowrance units and have seen them in action. But don't know anyone with the raymarine unit. So here we go

3. Lowrance elite 7 hdi - this is in last place right now. If I were to go with this unit it would be with 50/200 setup. From everything I have read the 50/200+445/800 doesn't fit in PA. Thought of just getting a separate 50/200 without DS. But that defeats the purpose of the unit. Has anyone got the transducer to fit and how is it performing?

2. Dragonfly 7 - Review and data on this unit is impressive. I only know one person who has seen the 5 unit. They did not give it a great review. Does anyone have the 7 or seen it in action. I like this chirp over the lowrance chirp. This is auto adjusting. The lowrance you have to pick chirp frequency and then adjust. I feel like I would be constantly adjusting between chirp signals and sensitivity

1. HDS7 Touch - A little more expensive then the other units. But when approaching the $1K mark it is not that big of a jump. This comes with standard 50/200. I know people and have seen this unit in action. It is impressive in all aspects. But even though it's not a big jump up in cost. It's still a jump.

So if I could get the monster transducer in PA. I would go with number one option. If not I am torn between 2&3. Slightly leaning toward option 3 (HDS).

What would you do?

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Old 11-10-2014, 07:31 AM   #2
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Look at the power usage on the 7's they take more juice to fish all day. Some guys need a larger battery or carry a spare to fish all day.
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Old 11-10-2014, 09:16 AM   #3
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I've got 61 yr old eyes covered in prescription glasses and I couldn't be more impressed with the dragonfly 5. Simple and fast use! All you have to know is how to turn it on!! Lol on the other hand, if spending a half hour looking down at your FF is your thing, then you can customize any and all of the setting. I think the best thing about the DF5(or 7 if you're a big spender)is the picture is perfect in 4' of water or 100' of water. I've had several lowrance products and really shallow water has always been a problem. You need two transducers with the lowrance stuff one for shallow and one for deep.i love the way the transducer fits in the hobie, once again simple.
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Old 11-10-2014, 09:30 AM   #4
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I dont know of anybody who hasnt loved their Dragonfly unit. Lots of them locally now that folks have picked up form OEX and other sources. Lots of friends across the country making the change to them from Lowrance as well including a vast majority of the guys on the Wilderness Systems team (including all 4 of us that are team managers) despite the strong relationship between Wildy and Lowrance.

I used the Dragonfly 5 for about a year and just went to an A98 unit however plan on picking up a 7 soon for friends/wife to use. the units are just so easy to read and to operate it is ridiculous.
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Old 11-10-2014, 09:37 AM   #5
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I've got 61 yr old eyes covered in prescription glasses and I couldn't be more impressed with the dragonfly 5. Simple and fast use! All you have to know is how to turn it on!! Lol on the other hand, if spending a half hour looking down at your FF is your thing, then you can customize any and all of the setting. I think the best thing about the DF5(or 7 if you're a big spender)is the picture is perfect in 4' of water or 100' of water. I've had several lowrance products and really shallow water has always been a problem. You need two transducers with the lowrance stuff one for shallow and one for deep.i love the way the transducer fits in the hobie, once again simple.
How well does your unit read over a 100' of water. I plan on fishing up to 300' or more and want to be able to track bottom.
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Old 11-10-2014, 09:44 AM   #6
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I dont know of anybody who hasnt loved their Dragonfly unit. Lots of them locally now that folks have picked up form OEX and other sources. Lots of friends across the country making the change to them from Lowrance as well including a vast majority of the guys on the Wilderness Systems team (including all 4 of us that are team managers) despite the strong relationship between Wildy and Lowrance.

I used the Dragonfly 5 for about a year and just went to an A98 unit however plan on picking up a 7 soon for friends/wife to use. the units are just so easy to read and to operate it is ridiculous.
I only know one person who has seen the 5 on the water. He stated they had a issue tracking bottom at 100' or so. It just didn't paint the same as HDS is what I was told. Again I has not seen one on the water myself. All video I have seen makes it look pretty sweet.

It is a good chunk of change for any of these units. Want to spend my cash the best way possible since I wont be getting another unit for a LONG time.
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Ive had no issues in deep water at all. Could have been an install issue?

It meters rockfish like a champ. Just remember than Down Imaging on any of those units really isnt meant for deep water. The Broadband sonar will give you awesome clarity to identify everything though,
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Ive had no issues in deep water at all. Could have been an install issue?

It meters rockfish like a champ. Just remember than Down Imaging on any of those units really isnt meant for deep water. The Broadband sonar will give you awesome clarity to identify everything though,

All I want is a clear broadband reading. The down scan is something I don't plan on using to much. I thank you for your input
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All I want is a clear broadband reading. The down scan is something I don't plan on using to much. I thank you for your input

Once you use it you will be hooked I promise! It is pretty awesome to split the screen with these over eachother I must say.
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Bert,

It seems that a touch screen might not be the best
idea for kayak fishing since you would be leaving
salt water stains on you screen constantly.

Full Rac just got a touch screen. Wonder what his thoughts are?
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Old 11-10-2014, 04:47 PM   #11
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Bert,

It seems that a touch screen might not be the best
idea for kayak fishing since you would be leaving
salt water stains on you screen constantly.

Full Rac just got a touch screen. Wonder what his thoughts are?


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Old 11-10-2014, 04:52 PM   #12
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To answer the question about the HDI 50/200 455/800 transducer: it will fit with a 30 second fix. The reason it doesn't fit is because the mounting bracket protrudes too high and hits on plastic without being able to close the lowrance ready "door"

When I bought my elite 5 HDI all I did was cut a couple of inches off the mounting bracket with a Sawzall. Did not change picture on screen one bit.

It is a great unit but I'm sure the HDS is as well
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Old 11-10-2014, 07:15 PM   #13
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If you like to be able to adjust every setting to dial in your FF to your liking then the Lowrance is the way to go. If you just want to turn on your FF and go fishing then the DF is the way to go.

Also if you mount your FF near your feet then you may want a 7", but if it's closer then a 5" is probably sufficient.
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Any pics ?

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To answer the question about the HDI 50/200 455/800 transducer: it will fit with a 30 second fix. The reason it doesn't fit is because the mounting bracket protrudes too high and hits on plastic without being able to close the lowrance ready "door"

When I bought my elite 5 HDI all I did was cut a couple of inches off the mounting bracket with a Sawzall. Did not change picture on screen one bit.

It is a great unit but I'm sure the HDS is as well
What prevents it from wiggling around ?
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You take just enough off so it fits snug with the bottom plate on.
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Old 11-11-2014, 09:34 AM   #16
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Thanks guys I made my mind up.
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Old 11-21-2014, 02:47 PM   #17
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So what did you end up going with?

I have the DragonFly and I love it. It meters deep water very well. I usually fish near 200 feet and it looks amazing on the broadband.
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Once you use it you will be hooked I promise! It is pretty awesome to split the screen with these over eachother I must say.
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Old 11-21-2014, 05:18 PM   #19
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I went with the hds 7. Thank you all for the input.
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Old 11-21-2014, 05:40 PM   #20
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I have the DragonFly and I love it. It meters deep water very well. I usually fish near 200 feet and it looks amazing on the broadband.
We got to hit the canyon together one of these days. I'd like to see the dragonfly in action.

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