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Old 03-13-2014, 10:34 AM   #1
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WOW. The ATF has a raid planned on Ares Armor and is threatening to shut them down if they don't hand over the names of the customers they sold a new type of 80% lowers to. 80%'s aren't illegal and there's no law saying you have to tell the government about your home-built weapons. ATF is deciding that these new 80%'s are illegal. Lets see where this goes.

http://fox5sandiego.com/2014/03/12/g...#axzz2vp5sScOR
This has happened before with previous 80% ar15 style lowers.
Back in the day all you had to do was drill a few holes (no milling) and thread the buffer tube.

It seems when 80% receivers get to mainstream the ATF decides to change the rules.

Now w/ that being said each manufacture of 80% lowers has to send a sample to the ATF for evaluation if the ATF rubber stamps it an 80% lower then it's good. Any changes to an existing "approved lower" ie material then it's all for approval again.

I hope everything works out for ares they really are great guys.
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Old 03-13-2014, 11:38 AM   #2
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Support them with business and with your voice. Be vocal in your support of all that is 2nd amendment.
If you fail to stand for their rights just because it does not seam to affect you. It will only be a matter if time before your rights will be taken from you.
Our government is on a witch hunt for guns that the government is afraid of. Why would a government be afraid of guns? Because guns prevent the government from becoming too powerful.
Remember, Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely! When you surrender your guns to the government, the government has absolute power!

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Old 03-13-2014, 11:45 AM   #3
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It seems when 80% receivers get to mainstream the ATF decides to change the rules.

Now w/ that being said each manufacture of 80% lowers has to send a sample to the ATF for evaluation if the ATF rubber stamps it an 80% lower then it's good. Any changes to an existing "approved lower" ie material then it's all for approval again.
That's the problem, Ares started selling a new type of "jigless" lower that has never been approved. ATF says they are illegal but it's too late, Ares has already sold thousands of them. Now ATF wants the names of those people that purchased the illegal lowers from Ares.
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