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fehays 08-11-2014 02:15 PM

Difference between spanish and green mackerel
 
Hi,

I here people talk about Spanish mackerels, but I don't know what they look like. I think the mackerel i'm most familiar with are what people are calling "green macs". Can someone point me to a picture of a "Spanish mackerel"?

Zed 08-11-2014 02:20 PM

Pacific jack mackerel is its proper name.

A true Spanish mackerel looks like a king mackerel.

fehays 08-11-2014 02:30 PM

Ah ok. Didn't realize Jack Mackerel = Spanish Mackerel

jsunmkly 08-11-2014 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by fehays (Post 203203)
Ah ok. Didn't realize Jack Mackerel = Spanish Mackerel

Wait no. Jack mackerel, pacific jack mackerel, pacific greenback mackerel are one same fish referred here as greenie
Spanish mackerel is spanish mackerel that looks like king mackerel and tastes yummy imo

Zed 08-11-2014 02:57 PM

You can call it chihuil in Mexico. Sometimes they're called jurel when they're canned. Offshore, under pattys they get pretty big and take horse sardines, and are called Spanish jack in the reports, but they're just jack macks.

...and bonito are bonito.
*ducks*

Zed 08-11-2014 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by jsunmkly (Post 203211)
Wait no. Jack mackerel, pacific jack mackerel, pacific greenback mackerel are one same fish referred here as greenie

Wrong.
Jack mackerel are in the family carangidae w yellowtail.
Green mackerel are in Scombridae w tunas.

Edit: And everyone gets bonus point if they QUIT using Spanish to describe jack macks.

In Australia, a Spanish mackerel is like a King mackerel in the Atlantic. In the Atlantic a Spanish mackerel is like a Sierra mackerel, or a spotted mackerel in Australia. All in the tuna family.

Sdspeed 08-11-2014 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by fehays (Post 203198)
Hi,

I here people talk about Spanish mackerels, but I don't know what they look like. I think the mackerel i'm most familiar with are what people are calling "green macs". Can someone point me to a picture of a "Spanish mackerel"?

Spanish Mac, aka Pacific Mac

YakDout 08-11-2014 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Zed (Post 203212)
You can call it chihuil in Mexico. Sometimes they're called jurel when they're canned. Offshore, under pattys they get pretty big and take horse sardines, and are called Spanish jack in the reports, but they're just jack macks.

...and bonito are bonito.
*ducks*

The locals in baja call yellowtail Jurel. Yes I know they are both jacks, but I have never heard of a mackerel called by Jurel.

Zed 08-11-2014 04:56 PM

This is a jack mackerel, what people call a Spanish:
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g1...G_8765crop.jpg

What sdspeed posted was a pacific green mackerel or chub mackerel aka greenie.

I can't believe there's this much confusion.

yakdout, I've only ever seen it as jurel in a can. But yes Jurel is generic for jack.
http://atriayasociados.cl/trimarfood...l%20trimar.png

taggermike 08-11-2014 05:30 PM

They're very different looking fish, as you can see in the photos. Common names can add to the confusion. What we call a Spanish mackerel, or jack mackerel, is really in the jack family with yellow tail, amber jack, and ulua. Jack mackerel, that's like calling some thing a dog cat. Maybe it's easier to call the 2 local mackerel we use for bait browns and greens. The browns can be a bit annoying to handle because they have 2 sharp little spines at the front of their anal fins and boney "skutes" at the base of their tails. Not venomous, just occasionally painful. Mike

Hunters Pa 08-11-2014 05:31 PM

One has an accent

Zed 08-11-2014 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by taggermike (Post 203233)
They're very different looking fish, as you can see in the photos. Common names can add to the confusion. What we call a Spanish mackerel, or jack mackerel, is really in the jack family with yellow tail, amber jack, and ulua. Jack mackerel, that's like calling some thing a dog cat. Maybe it's easier to call the 2 local mackerel we use for bait browns and greens. The browns can be a bit annoying to handle because they have 2 sharp little spines at the front of their anal fins and boney "skutes" at the base of their tails. Not venomous, just occasionally painful. Mike

Thats good. If you get poked its a jack.

As for brown I dont know. It would get confused w "brown baits" queenfish and tomcod. Ive heard greenies called waffleback macks.
Overall it doesnt matter now that theres visual aides. The OP got it hours ago. lol

HP, sÃX.

alanw 08-11-2014 06:12 PM

There is a nice old post about this on the forums, with some great info.

http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwevb/a...9&d=1284082986



Find the original thread here http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwevb/s...ead.php?t=8248

MrM 08-11-2014 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Zed (Post 203236)
Thats good. If you get poked its a jack.

The Sancho of bait fish.

Zed 08-11-2014 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by alanw (Post 203242)
There is a nice old post about this on the forums, with some great info.

http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwevb/a...9&d=1284082986



Find the original thread here http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwevb/s...ead.php?t=8248

So much for my grassroots campaign.

ful-rac 08-11-2014 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Zed (Post 203236)
Thats good. If you get poked its a jack.

As for brown I dont know. It would get confused w "brown baits" queenfish and tomcod. Ive heard greenies called waffleback macks.
Overall it doesnt matter now that theres visual aides. The OP got it hours ago. lol

HP, sÃX.



Queenfish are also called herring, but they're really not herring....they used to be plentiful...but i cant remember seeing one in the last 10-15 years...

They're so many different nick names for fish, here are a couple of examples..

Chucklehead
Alabama
Florida
Bosco
Warthog
Turd roller
Mud marlin
Specky
7-11 perch
Barndoor
Grouper
Slime sticks
Logs
Stovepipes
Reds

Zed 08-11-2014 07:21 PM

I get queens on the sabiki now and then when it hits bottom.
Tomcod arent cod.
Sculpin arent sculpin. Theyre scorpionfish.

GregAndrew 08-11-2014 07:29 PM

I like to call them "Catchem lotta fish" and "Catchem fewer fish". But at times you can't beat one with the other.

Zed 08-11-2014 07:38 PM

If a jack isnt lively enough, paddle faster.

Cbad Mike 08-11-2014 10:24 PM

I use strictly Holy Mackerel.
I figure if they are good enough for Jesus they're good enough for me!

FlyFishinYakr 08-12-2014 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Cbad Mike (Post 203287)
I use strictly Holy Mackerel.
I figure if they are good enough for Jesus they're good enough for me!

LOL! :D
FFY

Hunters Pa 08-12-2014 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Cbad Mike (Post 203287)
I use strictly Holy Mackerel.
I figure if they are good enough for Jesus they're good enough for me!



But you have to walk out on the water with your sabiki to get them


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