First Kayak

[Devildawgjj]

First post to check in and say hello. I hope to learn a lot from you all.....

So, my first purchase was a Malibu X-Factor. I paid 500 for it because there was a 7 inch gash across the bow where the hanlde is. The repart isn't aesthetically pleasing, but looks soild.

However, upon further review, after I already bought it, (the whatever you call it under the seat is broken). I was wondering the best efficient/effective way of fixing it.

Thanks! And Semper Fi

Remember to keep the terminolgy Barny style for me.....

[StinkyMatt]

Was that piece of wood there already? This would imply that the seller knew about it when he sold it.

IF thats the case....what a scumbag!


I don't know jack about kayaks (or fishing) but I know who does:


Andy (Iceman on here) runs a kayak/ fishing shop and will tell you EXACTLY what to do. Listen to a PRO not a bunch of knuckleheads like us.

[wiredantz]

This happened alot on the older model x-factors. Before they redesigned the hull.

You see how there is only twp Support under the seat and they run parallel in the middle... The new ones have two and not in the middle they are side by side like a foot apart and perpendicular to the way the boat runs.


When the x-factor was carried by two people/or it may have been a heavy set paddler, it would bend and put alot of pressure on that specific support beam under the seat and would crack if it was heavy enough.


To correct this flaw... Malibu Kayak


I believe (and i may be wrong with this) used a piece of wood with 5200 glue to reinforce it, whenever it cracked. This worked because the scupper hole was only there for support.



My Grey X-factor has the exact same flaw, but is a minute crack. I know for a fact that no water comes inside the hull, on the grey x-factor.

It has a piece of wood (dowel) and then its glued inside with 5200 glue. Super strength bond.



Althought i would probably take it to OEX, so they can see if it needs to be reinforced more, on the top...


This was an old PM: from DJAX65


I had applied an epoxy coating to the seat posts on my old X-Factor. The idea was that the hardened epoxy would take the load on the seat, rather than the thin plastic. I also used 3M 5200 on the inside and outside of all the scuppers to prevent small leaks/cracks from flooding the hull. If I had to reinforce a scupper/seat post again, I would do it the way Malibu repairs broken scuppers. They epoxy a wooden dowel into the scupper, blocking it off completely. Rather than using the dowel, I would use a section of PVC pipe. This would effectively reinforce the scupper, but it would still allow some drainage.

I reinforced the seat posts because the X-Factor had a lot of hull flex and there was a lot of weight supported by those two posts/scuppers. The scuppers/seat posts are the most heavily stressed parts of the hull and they are also the area that most frequently has molding defects. Based on that, I decided that it would be prudent to reinforce the seat posts. My decision was prompted by a recent experience with a poorly molded OK Prowler, which left me swimming at San Clemente Island and missing several rods/reels.

[sdfishman]

Was it this kayak you bought? I was going to looking at it until he told me there was a 7" crack on the top.


http://sandiego.craigslist.org/nsd/boa/2700133576.html

[wiredantz]

Originally Posted by StinkyMatt

Was that piece of wood there already? This would imply that the seller knew about it when he sold it.

IF thats the case....what a scumbag!


I don't know jack about kayaks (or fishing) but I know who does:


Andy (Iceman on here) runs a kayak/ fishing shop and will tell you EXACTLY what to do. Listen to a PRO not a bunch of knuckleheads like us.

I agree with this...

[lbsurf2ca]

Get a Hobie they would warranty that sort of thing even if it was out of warranty! But thirds on the Andy aka Iceman. Im sure he will post something on this.

He does really solid work.

[Devildawgjj]

Originally Posted by sdfishman

Was it this kayak you bought? I was going to looking at it until he told me there was a 7" crack on the top.


http://sandiego.craigslist.org/nsd/boa/2700133576.html

That's it.....

[Devildawgjj]

Originally Posted by StinkyMatt

Was that piece of wood there already? This would imply that the seller knew about it when he sold it.

IF thats the case....what a scumbag!


I don't know jack about kayaks (or fishing) but I know who does:


Andy (Iceman on here) runs a kayak/ fishing shop and will tell you EXACTLY what to do. Listen to a PRO not a bunch of knuckleheads like us.

I sure hope he can help me out!!! The seller just told me about the crack on the bow of the kayak. He did not mention what was under the seat. And because I didn't know any better I didn't look there. He seemed like a reasonble guy too....Now I don't know how much it's going to cost me to fix. Furthure more, I'm grounded until it's resolved.

Iceman.....Can you give a guy some advice....? Thanks.

[Caffeind]

Just give him a call, man. He won't steer you wrong.
Andy - OEX - Sunset Beach CA
562-592-0800

[mtnbykr2]

I sure hope this thing works out for you, seems like a bit of repair but
if anyone can do it OEX can....good luck

[fishsouthcounty]

just out of curiosity...have you tried contacting this guy to confront him about the damage to the interior of the kayak?? id be super pissed. either way Andy is definitely your man if anything can be done about it.

[bubblehide]

As has been stated already, take it to Andy at OEX Sunset Beach; he'll repair it for far less that you'll be expecting, and it will be done right. It will be far less hassle than trying to deal with the guy that sold it to you. And a few steps away from Andy's shop, you can even take it for a test spin after the repairs. I'll wager a case of Negro Modelo that you won't regret taking it to Andy. And the cost of that case will be about what he'll charge you, so it's a no lose situation if you win the wager; however I know it's a no lose wager for me.

[Iceman]

Thanks all, somehow this post slipped by me. I fixed it, no charge.

[kobra]

Originally Posted by Iceman

Thanks all, somehow this post slipped by me. I fixed it, no charge.

You're awesome Andrew!

[mazilla]

Oh damn, what a POS for not telling you about that damage!


I'm glad you were able to get it resolved quickly.

[Devildawgjj]

I went to OEX and Andy hooked it up big time!!! Of course I needed a new battery and charger, so I came out on top, pun intended

Thanks for the input on this....

Unfortunately, the guy who I bought the kayak from, left town on vacation . Oh well, it's fishing time this weekend for me. Thought I would try out Dana Point and see what happens.

[jorluivil]

Originally Posted by Devildawgjj

I went to OEX and Andy hooked it up big time!!! Of course I needed a new battery and charger, so I came out on top, pun intended

Thanks for the input on this....

Unfortunately, the guy who I bought the kayak from, left town on vacation . Oh well, it's fishing time this weekend for me. Thought I would try out Dana Point and see what happens.

I know about the whole 'Buyer Beware' thingy but if the seller knew about the additional cracks he's a douche bag and a half for not telling you....come to think of it he's three douche bags. Furthermore, I hope karma comes back and bites him in the arse. Fortunately, we have people like Iceman that always step up and take care of us in some form or another.

If you're willing to make the drive come join us Sunday at Cabrillo, we'll be fishing for monster lizard fish, small bass, short poisonous sculpins, shovelnose sharks, batrays, cormorants, seagulls, tires, plastic shopping bags and foam cups. It'll probably be raining and windy, there will be no sardines to use as bait, Stinkymatt will go on and on and on and on about some super secret intel that he received from an extremely credible kayaker, Roby will fish all the locations that I fished after I leave them, Wiredantz will splash everyone who is within 100 yards with water due to his paddling style, parking is $9 and its like 300miles from riverside but hopefully we'll have some bycatch......I think they call it halibut. Anyway, shoot Stinkymatt, Roby, Wiredantz or myself a PM and we'll give you more details.


P.S.
Welcome to the coocoo house

[T-Rex]

Andy fixing it at no charge is pretty cool. Fixing it yourself probably would have cost $15 - $25 with uncertain results.

[mtnbykr2]

[QUOTE=jorluivil;100631]I know about the whole 'Buyer Beware' thingy but if the seller knew about the additional cracks he's a douche bag and a half for not telling you....come to think of it he's three douche bags. Furthermore, I hope karma comes back and bites him in the arse. Fortunately, we have people like Iceman that always step up and take care of us in some form or another.

If you're willing to make the drive come join us Sunday at Cabrillo, we'll be fishing for monster lizard fish, small bass, short poisonous sculpins, shovelnose sharks, batrays, cormorants, seagulls, tires, plastic shopping bags and foam cups. It'll probably be raining and windy, there will be no sardines to use as bait, Stinkymatt will go on and on and on and on about some super secret intel that he received from an extremely credible kayaker, Roby will fish all the locations that I fished after I leave them, Wiredantz will splash everyone who is within 100 yards with water due to his paddling style, parking is $9 and its like 300miles from riverside but hopefully we'll have some bycatch......I think they call it halibut. Anyway, shoot Stinkymatt, Roby, Wiredantz or myself a PM and we'll give you more details.


P.S.
Welcome to the coocoo house[/QUTE]
I may join you if it isn't pouring by then...

[GregAndrew]

I just don't even know what to say. Andy, you are the MAN!