How to catch a doormat - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

tylerdurden · 11-09-2009, 05:00 PM

and I am not talking about halibut.
The anti fishing people expect us fishermen to be doormats.

They analyzed the proposals today and it was so hypocritical it was laughable. Are we going to take it? Show up or forever hold your peace.

The following are the top posters in BWE history, most posts first:
Iceman
madscientist
lamb
Holy Mackerel
tylerdurden
Dennis
Corey
Dan
Matt
aguachico
dorado50
Billy V
Handymansd
Tman
steveooo
nmbrinkman
THE DARKHORSE
katchfish
esdees
wavster
FISHIONADO
MOYER THE FISH DESTROYER
dgax65
Siebler
vellocity
bajadog
Zed
Aaron&Julie
Grego

How many of you guys haven't been to a single BRTF meeting, a single RSG meeting? How many are doormats? How many can say they helped the cause at all? I've been to just about every meeting since April and have seen the same few guys off this list at every one. Some others have shown up once or twice. A lot of names off the list haven't shown up a single time. A few have moved from San Diego. For the ones still in SoCal, Do you not care enough? You take days off work to go fishing, but not to ensure your fishing future? You don't need any special skills to help out. A black tshirt and a pulse at the meeting is good enough.

dgax65 · 11-09-2009, 05:21 PM

I'm in

driftwood · 11-09-2009, 05:24 PM

Please put on the list. I be there foe sure!!!

Gabe.

Billy V · 11-09-2009, 05:24 PM

I'm In.

zenspearo · 11-09-2009, 05:41 PM

I heard the SAT evaluation today was brutal.

They said they didn't have time to look at the socio-economic impact and went purely by bio-pseudo science data. Not surprisingly, since they set up the grading system (remember persistent kelp?), the score was skewed in favor of Group 1 and Group 3.

What happened to "stake-holder driven, science-based" initiative. They ignored half of it (the stakeholder-driven part--read: overwhelming public support for Group 2) and focused on the part of the game they set up to control.

If I can set up the rule of the game, I can win nearly 100% of most games played. It's that simple.

This is a setup for tomorrow's BRTF meeting. Expect ugliness tomorrow in the way the BRTF comes up with the Preferred Alternative Map.

That's why we need everyone.

driftwood · 11-09-2009, 05:59 PM

[QUOTE=zenspearo;46989]I heard the SAT evaluation today was brutal.

They said they didn't have time to look at the socio-economic impact and went purely bybio-pseudo science data. Not surprisingly, since they set up the grading system (remember persistent kelp?), the score was skewed in favor of Group 1 and Group 3.

What happened to "stake-holder driven, science-based" initiative. They ignored half of it (the stakeholder-driven part--read: overwhelming public support for Group 2) and focused on the part of the game they set up to control.

If I can set up the rule of the game, I can win nearly 100% of most games played. It's that simple.

Pseudoscience : A system of theories or assertions about the natural world that claim or appear to be scientific but that, in fact, are not. — The American Heritage® New Dictionary of Cultural Literacy, Third Edition.

Pseudoscience is merely theory not fact!!!!

Grego · 11-09-2009, 06:04 PM

Heard about the SAT criticism...numb nuts. The study of economic impacts was mandatory.....and their best excuse is that they "didn't have time"

DON'T LET THEM GET AWAY WITH THIS CRAP!!! BE THERE TOMORROW.

I'm not a doormat...I just catch them, use them like a blanket to keep me warm...unlike Bellcon

kurt · 11-09-2009, 06:33 PM

Shit, another MLPA meeting where we all have to listen to Grego talk about the only halibut he's ever caught.

JPSURF · 11-10-2009, 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grego

Heard about the SAT criticism...numb nuts. The study of economic impacts was mandatory.....and their best excuse is that they "didn't have time"

DON'T LET THEM GET AWAY WITH THIS CRAP!!! BE THERE TOMORROW.

I'm not a doormat...I just catch them, use them like a blanket to keep me warm...unlike Bellcon

Don a little less time at the Gym Big Guy!!!

JP

11-09-2009, 05:00 PM	#1
tylerdurden Bad Clone Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 874	How to catch a doormat and I am not talking about halibut. The anti fishing people expect us fishermen to be doormats. They analyzed the proposals today and it was so hypocritical it was laughable. Are we going to take it? Show up or forever hold your peace. The following are the top posters in BWE history, most posts first: Iceman madscientist lamb Holy Mackerel tylerdurden Dennis Corey Dan Matt aguachico dorado50 Billy V Handymansd Tman steveooo nmbrinkman THE DARKHORSE katchfish esdees wavster FISHIONADO MOYER THE FISH DESTROYER dgax65 Siebler vellocity bajadog Zed Aaron&Julie Grego How many of you guys haven't been to a single BRTF meeting, a single RSG meeting? How many are doormats? How many can say they helped the cause at all? I've been to just about every meeting since April and have seen the same few guys off this list at every one. Some others have shown up once or twice. A lot of names off the list haven't shown up a single time. A few have moved from San Diego. For the ones still in SoCal, Do you not care enough? You take days off work to go fishing, but not to ensure your fishing future? You don't need any special skills to help out. A black tshirt and a pulse at the meeting is good enough. __________________ MLPA, if you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem Let the Fish and Game Commission know what you think about the proposed maps. Be ready for December 9th and 10th.

11-09-2009, 05:21 PM	#2
dgax65 Guerro Grande Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 629	I'm in __________________ Douglas Gaxiola Team No Fish- Amateur Staff

11-09-2009, 05:41 PM	#5
zenspearo Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 167	I heard the SAT evaluation today was brutal. They said they didn't have time to look at the socio-economic impact and went purely by bio-pseudo science data. Not surprisingly, since they set up the grading system (remember persistent kelp?), the score was skewed in favor of Group 1 and Group 3. What happened to "stake-holder driven, science-based" initiative. They ignored half of it (the stakeholder-driven part--read: overwhelming public support for Group 2) and focused on the part of the game they set up to control. If I can set up the rule of the game, I can win nearly 100% of most games played. It's that simple. This is a setup for tomorrow's BRTF meeting. Expect ugliness tomorrow in the way the BRTF comes up with the Preferred Alternative Map. That's why we need everyone. __________________ A spearo, but we are in this MLPA mess together

11-09-2009, 05:59 PM	#6
driftwood Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: SAN DIEGO Posts: 1,086	[QUOTE=zenspearo;46989]I heard the SAT evaluation today was brutal. They said they didn't have time to look at the socio-economic impact and went purely bybio-pseudo science data. Not surprisingly, since they set up the grading system (remember persistent kelp?), the score was skewed in favor of Group 1 and Group 3. What happened to "stake-holder driven, science-based" initiative. They ignored half of it (the stakeholder-driven part--read: overwhelming public support for Group 2) and focused on the part of the game they set up to control. If I can set up the rule of the game, I can win nearly 100% of most games played. It's that simple. Pseudoscience : A system of theories or assertions about the natural world that claim or appear to be scientific but that, in fact, are not. — The American Heritage® New Dictionary of Cultural Literacy, Third Edition. Pseudoscience is merely theory not fact!!!! Last edited by driftwood; 11-09-2009 at 06:53 PM.

11-09-2009, 06:33 PM	#8
kurt Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: 2 inches above sea level Posts: 502	Shit, another MLPA meeting where we all have to listen to Grego talk about the only halibut he's ever caught. __________________ "All I got was a rock"

11-09-2009, 05:24 PM	#3
driftwood Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: SAN DIEGO Posts: 1,086	Please put on the list. I be there foe sure!!! Gabe.

11-09-2009, 05:24 PM	#4
Billy V Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bay Ho Posts: 1,382	I'm In.

11-09-2009, 06:04 PM	#7
Grego Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 445	Heard about the SAT criticism...numb nuts. The study of economic impacts was mandatory.....and their best excuse is that they "didn't have time" DON'T LET THEM GET AWAY WITH THIS CRAP!!! BE THERE TOMORROW. I'm not a doormat...I just catch them, use them like a blanket to keep me warm...unlike Bellcon