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ctfphoto · 10-04-2011, 01:49 PM

Can you fish (with a pole) for sculpin / halibut while lobster hoop netting? I know you can't catch lobster on the pole or fish in the nets but it sure seems like a great way to pass the time while the nets are soaking and I need to be doing something, like not pulling my nets early.

I have seen people doing it and heard some talking about it so I guess it's ok. I looked around on the DFG website and could find the two talked about together. I did ask the DFG that stopped me sat night about sculpin in the net and he said no. Wish I had asked about fishing while netting.

TIA, Chris

MrPatrick · 10-04-2011, 02:37 PM

No

Siebler · 10-04-2011, 03:00 PM

I thought you were allowed something like 5 hoops or 3 hoops and a rod? Has it changed? I havnt hooped in so long i dont even look at the regs anymore.

ctfphoto · 10-04-2011, 05:34 PM

Thanks for the responses so far

Here's a second question.

While making room for mackerel in the freezer I found an old turkey that my wife says is too old and won't cook. I know some use of you use chicken in lobster hoops but would turkey work as well. I was actually planning on using it for filler and mix it with mackerel to make the mack go farther. Your thoughts?

Handymansd · 10-04-2011, 06:35 PM

Answer for Question #2

When bugging, most any kind of bait will work... to an extent... There are really only two criteria you need to have:

1) The smell... Lobsters like to "smell" their food and that is what attracts them into your nets... I have experimented with many different baits and the more oil and "fluids" that bait emanates the better. I like to use oily fish like mackerel, salmon, and barracuda left over from earlier in the year.
2) The second goal is to keep the lobsters in your net once they arrive there, awaiting your "pull". Lobsters are notoriously non-picky eaters... a day old fish or a year old chicken... it does not seem to matter to them. I consistently pull up bugs that have to be pried off the bait cage as they were not done eating yet...

So if you can make a year old chicken smell good to them then it might just work but I would recommend just catching a bunch of mackerel before it gets dark and stuffing your cages til it is leaking out the sides, take as many macs as you can carry and before you get finished cleaning up after hooping re stuff your cages and throw them into the fish freezer for the next trip, then all you do is zip tie them to your net bottom and toss the net! I also have a friend that runs a meat dept. at a local grocery store and he kicks me down all of his dated salmon which works very well too.

That is my method and it seems to work pretty well for me.

Deamon · 10-05-2011, 04:44 AM

I don't know the law but I had my mackeral rod with me and got checked twice by The Man in one night with no comments about it . 5 hoop nets and a rod...

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Originally Posted by ctfphoto

Can you fish (with a pole) for sculpin / halibut while lobster hoop netting?
TIA, Chris

grey zone · 10-05-2011, 06:31 AM

Its legal to fish with a rod and reel while hoops are soaking.

10-04-2011, 01:49 PM	#1
ctfphoto Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: San Diego Posts: 901	Stupid newbie question. Can you fish (with a pole) for sculpin / halibut while lobster hoop netting? I know you can't catch lobster on the pole or fish in the nets but it sure seems like a great way to pass the time while the nets are soaking and I need to be doing something, like not pulling my nets early. I have seen people doing it and heard some talking about it so I guess it's ok. I looked around on the DFG website and could find the two talked about together. I did ask the DFG that stopped me sat night about sculpin in the net and he said no. Wish I had asked about fishing while netting. TIA, Chris Last edited by ctfphoto; 10-04-2011 at 03:10 PM.

10-04-2011, 03:00 PM	#3
Siebler Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Richland Oregon Posts: 1,547	I thought you were allowed something like 5 hoops or 3 hoops and a rod? Has it changed? I havnt hooped in so long i dont even look at the regs anymore. __________________ CJ Siebler

10-04-2011, 06:35 PM	#5
Handymansd Ancient Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: On The Water Posts: 935	Answer for Question #2 When bugging, most any kind of bait will work... to an extent... There are really only two criteria you need to have: 1) The smell... Lobsters like to "smell" their food and that is what attracts them into your nets... I have experimented with many different baits and the more oil and "fluids" that bait emanates the better. I like to use oily fish like mackerel, salmon, and barracuda left over from earlier in the year. 2) The second goal is to keep the lobsters in your net once they arrive there, awaiting your "pull". Lobsters are notoriously non-picky eaters... a day old fish or a year old chicken... it does not seem to matter to them. I consistently pull up bugs that have to be pried off the bait cage as they were not done eating yet... So if you can make a year old chicken smell good to them then it might just work but I would recommend just catching a bunch of mackerel before it gets dark and stuffing your cages til it is leaking out the sides, take as many macs as you can carry and before you get finished cleaning up after hooping re stuff your cages and throw them into the fish freezer for the next trip, then all you do is zip tie them to your net bottom and toss the net! I also have a friend that runs a meat dept. at a local grocery store and he kicks me down all of his dated salmon which works very well too. That is my method and it seems to work pretty well for me. __________________ All men are equal before fish. -Herbert Hoover

10-04-2011, 02:37 PM	#2
MrPatrick Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Waiting to launch Posts: 1,381	No

10-04-2011, 05:34 PM	#4
ctfphoto Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: San Diego Posts: 901	Thanks for the responses so far Here's a second question. While making room for mackerel in the freezer I found an old turkey that my wife says is too old and won't cook. I know some use of you use chicken in lobster hoops but would turkey work as well. I was actually planning on using it for filler and mix it with mackerel to make the mack go farther. Your thoughts?

10-05-2011, 06:31 AM	#7
grey zone Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: san diego Posts: 158	Its legal to fish with a rod and reel while hoops are soaking.