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01-27-2009, 12:05 AM | #1 | |||
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I just cancelled my membership to Surfline.
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01-27-2009, 07:09 AM | #2 |
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Location: Encinitas
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Its sad to think that I might not be able to share the pacific with my son the way my father did with me.
I hope with Californias impending bankruptcy this is put on hold, and eventualy re-worked. There will be a large cost associated with this, something that the state cant afford at the moment. |
01-27-2009, 07:49 AM | #3 |
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Join Date: Jan 2009
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This is another example of the narrow mindedness of the (Surfrider Foundation) or in this case Surfline backing a measure that will effect all waterman and in the long run may bite them in a$$. I have been fishing La Jolla since the 80's, starting on a long board moving to a fishboard/windsurfer with a milkcrate and then to a kayak in 1993. After a brief hiatus from kayak fishing from the late 90's to about three years ago, I have gotten back into kayak fishing. Yes, I was shocked to see how many people have gotten into the sport, but I also believe the fishing is better. This due to the fact that as Josh mentioned above the gill net ban, seasonal closures on certain species and that sportfishermen also conserve the resource via catch and release. Not to mention the Hubbs WSB hatchery program. I see many threads with Threshers, YT's and WSB's being released and rarely see any Calico's kept. As a long range fisherman, I saw the same thing happen in 2002 when two weeks prior to leaving on a 16 day trip, the Mexican government pulled the permits to fish the Revillagigedo Islands. Again, sportfishermen were punished for the illegal commerical fishing of the islands. After seeing the MLPA closures to the north, hopefully the closures can be stopped before we lose La Jolla and Point Loma. Being new to the board, this was not the topic I expected to be my first post.
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01-27-2009, 07:56 AM | #4 |
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Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Ocean Beach San Diego Ca
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Build a toll road through Trestles
If Garth helps end fishing in La Jolla.
I will campaign to put the toll road through his cherished Trestles surf break. That many surfers peeing in the water all day long, 365 days a year has to be bad for the eco system, and its in a protected state park. Go to the greedy surfline.com and post a reply. By the way surfline makes your surf break more crowded. Never give them your money. |
01-27-2009, 09:28 AM | #5 |
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Location: So. Orange County
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I agree. DONT give money to surfline or surfrider. I too will vote for the tollroad if they back closing the fishing grounds.
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01-27-2009, 03:15 PM | #6 |
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Location: On the water
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I stopped giving $ to Surfrider long ago...talk about an organization that tends to go awry.
I'm pretty positive that less than 50% of the population would go for the initiative if they were informed...it's a sad thing to watch the misconceptions get perpetuated by an article like this. Some that dude's answers are pretty hilarious actually, the anglers sure are destroying your surf spots (?????) and kelp beds (????????????) and cobblestone reefs (????????????????????????????????????????????????? ??)...and on and on. Stick to coastal pollution and development dumbass, a hook & line aren't doing any more damage to your reef than your empty head bouncing off of it does. I guess you throw out a soapbox and everyone's an expert. Kinda like the message boards! |
01-27-2009, 03:47 PM | #7 |
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Location: La Verne
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I can't beleive a surf organization would actually show that. The fact is that surfer's are going to lose some of their surfing areas too, as i have herd that they want to close certain beaches from all human contact. These enviromentalist need to focus their efferts to find better ways to commercially harvest fish, Stopping illigal havesting from places like japan and stop pollution as these would actually help the ocean. Recreational anglers premote better fisheries with programs that benifit the fisheries. If anybody knows a place to send a letter too i would have a lot to say.
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02-03-2009, 07:25 AM | #8 |
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I just received an email from Surfrider regarding MPA's. I would recommend that the kayak community get involved with Surfrider and help influence their "support of sustainable and accessible fishing opportunities". Most of my surfing buddies don't fish, we need some representation there. If you are not a member already please join and let them know what is important to you. If you fill out the survey below please be respectful and represent us well.
Survey here: http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx?s...cSSwjSHw_3d_3d From Surfrider: The Surfrider Foundation is gathering information and recommendations from local communities to help formulate a regional network of MPAs. Our goal is to balance our members' commitment to restoring and protecting our coast and ocean for generations, with our support of sustainable and accessible fishing opportunities. The Surfrider Foundation is currently working with a wide variety of individuals and organizations on the Marine Life Protection Act -- or MLPA. The MLPA is a state law that requires establishing a "network" of marine protected areas along the California coastline. This law is currently being implemented in Southern California . Much like our National Parks protect special places on land, these Marine Protected Areas (MPAs) offer heightened protection for marine life to thrive and people to enjoy. In short, MPAs protect special places for their "intrinsic value" – preserving ecological abundance for generations to come. MPAs around the globe have become popular attractions for people to enjoy nature's beauty and abundance. Establishing MPAs can also help restore healthy fisheries. Studies show alarming declines in fish populations worldwide. Fishermen are now catching half of what they did in 1990 and the fish they do catch are 45 percent smaller. Some local fisheries may take 50-80 years to recover. MPAs allow marine life populations to increase and individual species to grow to full maturitywhich increases the number of off-spring from protected areas. These larger populations may "spill over" the boundaries of MPAs and provide improved fishing in areas adjacent to MPAs. The state of California adopted the MLPA in 1999 and created the opportunity for members of the public to participate in identifying special places worthy of heightened protection. Surfrider Foundation members represent a broad spectrum of people who enjoy time in the ocean: surfers, fishers, divers, kayakers, sailors and others who just love the natural beauty of our coast and ocean. Our collective knowledge from this experience can help design an effective network of MPAs. Last edited by FISHIONADO; 02-03-2009 at 07:33 AM. Reason: added survey link |
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