When the split ring is just to dam small.... - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

MITCHELL · 02-26-2024, 08:00 PM

Play with it awhile, before you go with a double surgeons loop with Berkley 6 lb vanishing fluorocarbon. A couple of Tasmanian devils rigged with a couple of gamakatsu #8 octopus circle hooks.

MITCHELL · 02-26-2024, 08:15 PM

I would never do this for yellowtail, but if it breaks I'll tie a separate knot on both hooks I have never had a surgeon loop slip.

MITCHELL · 02-27-2024, 05:40 AM

Just for the tackle pack.
10 lures rigged tangle free
Just add swivel.

MITCHELL · 02-27-2024, 05:47 AM

Double 6 lb Double hooks Double knots
Because a big one will break you off in the toolies
That's when you change to 10 lb fluorocarbon

MITCHELL · 02-27-2024, 06:08 AM

Gamakatsu make your hook 🪝 eyes 👀 bigger
Your number #8 octopus 🐙 circle hooks 🪝
Will not even slip on my smallest
Split ring 😒

JohnMckroidJr · 02-27-2024, 07:51 AM

Nice arrangement of lures ready to go Mitch.
Sometimes hooks with bigger eyes, are cheaper and more practical for such situations. I like the hooks to be as free and unrestricted as possible on a lure, so that leader looks like an interesting option.

One of my assessments of a good quality bait hook is how small the eye is. Gamakatsu hook eyes are typically tapered steel thinest at the end. Pro Bass
brand hooks are generally cheaper, have bigger eyes that do not taper.

MITCHELL · 02-28-2024, 06:10 AM

You don?t know until you jump in and get your feet wet....
It's nice to be able to view your hooks in person before buying. Tasmanian devil offers a single hook set up.
Yes I understand about light stream line live bait hooks.
Fastest bait gets bit. Especially on a sport boat with 35 guys. Loop knot or ringed hook let's bait swim more freely. The Problem with a lighter loop knot if you get a big one, could break off sooner than a ringed hook.
But you might get bit sooner when tuna are being picky.
The hooks I bought were around 10 bucks and did not give specifications on eye size. They are prefect for live shiners. I'm sure I could find alot of choices for bigger eye small hooks under jig hooks. Just need to keep fishing....was wondering John do you do any freshwater bass fishing or do the alligators keep you away I know your not scared of sharks. If an alligator comes after you it ain't know mistaking identity. Big bass came from Florida strain.

MITCHELL · 02-28-2024, 06:11 AM

Scientist, to see 👀 it's friction with a loop knot 🪢
And no friction with a ringed hook.
Plus ➕️ I don't like paying for extra....
shipping 🚢 that is the genius behind prime 👌
In this case bigger is better.

02-26-2024, 08:15 PM	#2
MITCHELL Sea Hunter Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Where ever I may roam where I lay my head I call home. Posts: 2,269	I really don't like hooks in a line loop I would never do this for yellowtail, but if it breaks I'll tie a separate knot on both hooks I have never had a surgeon loop slip. __________________ Duke Mitchell

02-27-2024, 05:47 AM	#4
MITCHELL Sea Hunter Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Where ever I may roam where I lay my head I call home. Posts: 2,269	Even rigged one Double 6 lb Double hooks Double knots Because a big one will break you off in the toolies That's when you change to 10 lb fluorocarbon __________________ Duke Mitchell

02-27-2024, 06:08 AM	#5
MITCHELL Sea Hunter Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Where ever I may roam where I lay my head I call home. Posts: 2,269	BTW.... Gamakatsu make your hook 🪝 eyes 👀 bigger Your number #8 octopus 🐙 circle hooks 🪝 Will not even slip on my smallest Split ring 😒 __________________ Duke Mitchell

02-28-2024, 06:10 AM	#7
MITCHELL Sea Hunter Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Where ever I may roam where I lay my head I call home. Posts: 2,269	Ya alot of variables play into it.... You don?t know until you jump in and get your feet wet.... It's nice to be able to view your hooks in person before buying. Tasmanian devil offers a single hook set up. Yes I understand about light stream line live bait hooks. Fastest bait gets bit. Especially on a sport boat with 35 guys. Loop knot or ringed hook let's bait swim more freely. The Problem with a lighter loop knot if you get a big one, could break off sooner than a ringed hook. But you might get bit sooner when tuna are being picky. The hooks I bought were around 10 bucks and did not give specifications on eye size. They are prefect for live shiners. I'm sure I could find alot of choices for bigger eye small hooks under jig hooks. Just need to keep fishing....was wondering John do you do any freshwater bass fishing or do the alligators keep you away I know your not scared of sharks. If an alligator comes after you it ain't know mistaking identity. Big bass came from Florida strain. __________________ Duke Mitchell

02-27-2024, 07:51 AM	#6
JohnMckroidJr Senior Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: Fort Lauderdale Posts: 1,933	Nice arrangement of lures ready to go Mitch. Sometimes hooks with bigger eyes, are cheaper and more practical for such situations. I like the hooks to be as free and unrestricted as possible on a lure, so that leader looks like an interesting option. One of my assessments of a good quality bait hook is how small the eye is. Gamakatsu hook eyes are typically tapered steel thinest at the end. Pro Bass brand hooks are generally cheaper, have bigger eyes that do not taper.

02-28-2024, 06:11 AM	#8
MITCHELL Sea Hunter Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Where ever I may roam where I lay my head I call home. Posts: 2,269	You don?t have to be a rocket 🚀 Scientist, to see 👀 it's friction with a loop knot 🪢 And no friction with a ringed hook. Plus ➕️ I don't like paying for extra.... shipping 🚢 that is the genius behind prime 👌 In this case bigger is better. __________________ Duke Mitchell Last edited by MITCHELL; 02-28-2024 at 06:58 AM.