2 questions- Fasteners and Sonar Wiring - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

ProfessorLongArms · 10-18-2017, 01:39 PM

I'm doing some maintenance on my Trident.

Both of these might be more OEX related questions...

Getting ready to add some rails on the sides or possibly some flush mount star ports. Because the Battery box in the middle of the Torque model is non-removable (at least AFAIK- Andy maybe you know better?), I can't get in to bolt it down as looks the most stable. . .

What's best? Rivets? Well Nuts? Self tapping screws?
So far, my guess is that it seems plastic rivets are smaller holes, no metal to corrode, no neoprene to wear out... OTOH, Well nuts *sound* a lot stronger.

Given these options, would I be limited in what they can handle? I can imagine a go-pro mount would be much less stress than a rod holder for trolling or a pulley rig for lobster hoops.

*Second Question*

I have a Lowrance Elite-5... It wouldn't power up on my last outing and I've been troubleshooting.

1) So far I found saltwater and corrosion in my little gasketed 5amp fuse port, and I'm going to replace that altogether since I'm not getting full voltage through there.

2) The unit itself also got wet on my last outing when it worked, and I gave it a light rinsing/drying when I got home.

3) I'm noticing a good bit of corrosion in the (cable side) female pin connectors where it plugs into the unit.

Actual questions-

In your experience, how waterproof are these things? What's the aftercare if you take a big wave and the unit gets soaked? I'm assuming you don't dunk the thing in a bucket, but I can't imagine it's as little as a damp rag.

How prone are the cables to going out? It's been a few years and I'm considering replacing the whole wiring setup so I'm not fiddling with it every other trip. Kinda sucked to get out on the water and fight with it for 20 mins and give up.

Iceman · 10-18-2017, 03:08 PM

The rivets are actually good quality aluminum and best option if you can not get to the inside the item is thin enough to allow good purchase . bolt and nylock good option if you can get to back side, well nut better than tapping screw.

the head units are water proof to a certain specification, cut out wiring and try from shortest distance of wire first and clean the corroded plug

jorluivil · 10-18-2017, 05:05 PM

The rivets that OEX are great quality rivets, I have some that I installed over 2years ago and they are still holding up. I don't recall what I paid for them but if/when you buy them don't buy the amount you need, buy at least triple the amount. Their shelve life will out last most marriages so it won't hurt to have a few extra on-hand.

ProfessorLongArms · 10-23-2017, 02:19 PM

Just wanted to follow-up and say thanks for the advice.

*finally* got the wiring fixed. I'll never launch again without doing a quick test with my Voltmeter on the wiring harness.

I actually had 4 different points of failure to fix before I could power it back on (battery terminal connectors not tight enough, battery box connector corroded, fuse box completely corroded, and unit plug corroded). took a surprising amount of WD40 and friction to get it all back up and running.

I recommend, as I did, going ahead and getting a dedicated voltmeter, a pack of crimp connectors, and some extra cable ties to keep in a kit with the kayak.

10-18-2017, 01:39 PM	#1
ProfessorLongArms Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 401	2 questions- Fasteners and Sonar Wiring I'm doing some maintenance on my Trident. Both of these might be more OEX related questions... Getting ready to add some rails on the sides or possibly some flush mount star ports. Because the Battery box in the middle of the Torque model is non-removable (at least AFAIK- Andy maybe you know better?), I can't get in to bolt it down as looks the most stable. . . What's best? Rivets? Well Nuts? Self tapping screws? So far, my guess is that it seems plastic rivets are smaller holes, no metal to corrode, no neoprene to wear out... OTOH, Well nuts sound a lot stronger. Given these options, would I be limited in what they can handle? I can imagine a go-pro mount would be much less stress than a rod holder for trolling or a pulley rig for lobster hoops. Second Question I have a Lowrance Elite-5... It wouldn't power up on my last outing and I've been troubleshooting. 1) So far I found saltwater and corrosion in my little gasketed 5amp fuse port, and I'm going to replace that altogether since I'm not getting full voltage through there. 2) The unit itself also got wet on my last outing when it worked, and I gave it a light rinsing/drying when I got home. 3) I'm noticing a good bit of corrosion in the (cable side) female pin connectors where it plugs into the unit. Actual questions- In your experience, how waterproof are these things? What's the aftercare if you take a big wave and the unit gets soaked? I'm assuming you don't dunk the thing in a bucket, but I can't imagine it's as little as a damp rag. How prone are the cables to going out? It's been a few years and I'm considering replacing the whole wiring setup so I'm not fiddling with it every other trip. Kinda sucked to get out on the water and fight with it for 20 mins and give up.

10-18-2017, 03:08 PM	#2
Iceman Administrator Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: 1-2 miles off the point Posts: 6,943	The rivets are actually good quality aluminum and best option if you can not get to the inside the item is thin enough to allow good purchase . bolt and nylock good option if you can get to back side, well nut better than tapping screw. the head units are water proof to a certain specification, cut out wiring and try from shortest distance of wire first and clean the corroded plug __________________

10-18-2017, 05:05 PM	#3
jorluivil Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 6,856	The rivets that OEX are great quality rivets, I have some that I installed over 2years ago and they are still holding up. I don't recall what I paid for them but if/when you buy them don't buy the amount you need, buy at least triple the amount. Their shelve life will out last most marriages so it won't hurt to have a few extra on-hand. __________________ www.facebook.com/Teamsewer

10-23-2017, 02:19 PM	#4
ProfessorLongArms Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 401	Thanks! Just wanted to follow-up and say thanks for the advice. finally got the wiring fixed. I'll never launch again without doing a quick test with my Voltmeter on the wiring harness. I actually had 4 different points of failure to fix before I could power it back on (battery terminal connectors not tight enough, battery box connector corroded, fuse box completely corroded, and unit plug corroded). took a surprising amount of WD40 and friction to get it all back up and running. I recommend, as I did, going ahead and getting a dedicated voltmeter, a pack of crimp connectors, and some extra cable ties to keep in a kit with the kayak.