Pat's Tip(s) of the Week - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

Pat · 04-07-2006, 11:48 AM

Winter + Iron = Yellowtail

Many kayak fisherman have become so dependant on live bait that they have overlooked one of the best fishing weapons available – the yo-yo iron. I have to admit that it’s hard to compete with a slimy, wiggly mackerel, but quite often yellowtail, especially the big wintertime La Jolla homeguards, will strike an iron while leaving the bait untouched.

La Jolla in December 2003 was a perfect example. I launched after dawn with one rod and paddled out to an area in 90 ft of water where a group of good kayak fisherman were milling around. They were slow trolling plugs and greenies, casting fish traps and crocodiles, and bounce balling mackerel for halibut. Two hours later my Salas 6x Jr. in blue & white had caught two 20# class yellowtail. Nobody else was getting bit. For whatever reason, the yellows swam by all those live baits and plastics for a small hunk of fast moving metal.

I’ve caught >90% of my LJ yellows on yo-yo iron. It’s something about fooling a fish to eat an artificial lure that got me hooked (har har). Now I do it because it just plain works. Sometimes the success of yo-yo fishing seems random and unexplainable, but the real reasons behind why it works may not be so mysterious.

Here are a few techniques and observations that might make you consider spending more time chuckin’ iron:

- In my opinion, yo-yo fishing is playing the percentages. That iron is quickly covering the entire water column and much more territory while the guy next to you soaking live bait is confined to a small area.

- Although yo-yo fishing requires more casting and cranking, you don’t have to spend time finding bait, catching bait, hooking bait, soaking bait, replenishing bait, cleaning eel grass off the bait, and finding a good bait that swims right. The iron will get you through the entire day and stay away from sea lions too!

- Iron Selection and Color: A former sport boat captain told me “if you don’t catch yellows on the blue/white Salas 6x Jr., then they are not there.” Boy has that been true for La Jolla.

I often see guys changing iron styles and colors after every couple casts. I don’t think that way. I fish the B/W or B/W w/ mack pattern Salas 100% of the time, because I have confidence in its fish catching ability. Other models that work well are the Ironman jigs in #3 and #5, Tady 9 and Tady 4/0. That B/W w/ mack pattern Salas 6X Jr. was responsible for a lot of WCW submissions last year.

As for color, I struggle with this one. A lot of people say “match the hatch” meaning that the iron color should match the color of the bait supply in the area. If that were true, then why was the B/W Salas so successful during the infamous Dec. ’05 squid bite? On a few mornings, the B/W Salas caught more fish than live squid! It’s the action that catches the fish.

- Gear: This is very debatable but my personal preference and success has come from 4.9:1 gear ratio reels. Although 6:1 reels were specifically designed for yo-yoing, for some reason the fast retrieve of a Salas with a 4:9:1 Diawa Sealine-X reel is a deadly combination for yellowtail.

I’ve tried 6:1’s like the Shimano Toriums and Trinidads and the action of my Salas’s and Iron Man’s go to crap; they just twist and don’t have that seductive side to side motion with an occasional kick that I’m looking for. Another side note on those Diawa’s: Turners had them for $70 at the show. In my opinion, these reels are hands down the best yo-yo reels for the yak because of castability, drag reliability, and longevity. I’m still fishing the same XHV50 from the last 3 years, no maintenance whatsoever.

For yo-yoing I like shorter, stouter rods. You don’t need a long rod for surface iron casting distance, you want backbone and pulling power to keep those deep yellows from finding trouble. I fish a 6’ 40-60# rated rod with 40# mono. I usually match the line to the middle of the rod weight, but for yo-yoing I want extra beef to slam the hook home and pull fish off the bottom quickly before it finds the bull kelp or lobster trap. I see lot’s of guys fishing rods that make the weight of the iron look like a 30# yellow. If that’s the case, the rod is way too soft and you will miss hooksets and get smoked into trouble.

For line, I like straight 40# mono just because the knots are straightforward and I know the maximum amount of pressure I can apply before breakage. Yellows, unlike white sea bass, have hard mouths and jaws so you can use treble hooks and pull really hard without pulling hooks. I also like the heavier line because the fish aren’t line shy with yoyo iron and because I’m very jealous of Larry’s and Arne’s 50# class fish. I want one too!

- Presentation: This is where the little things seem to make a difference. Yo-yoing by definition means dropping the lure to the bottom and retrieving as fast as possible. Some guys may drop down, jig it up and down on the bottom a few times, retrieve half way, jig it again, drop it, jig it, on and on and so on. My success has come from one style: cast as far as possible, let it sink to the bottom, and then retrieve all the way back to the rod tip. Sounds very simple and it is, but a few little things have increased my odds of success.

The cast: For some reason, long distance casts up current get more bites. I don’t know why. Is it because bait swims down current, predators swim up current, glare, etc, I’m not too sure? I theorize that casting up current means you are drifting further away from your iron faster, meaning you have more line off the reel and a more horizontal retrieve angle. Both of those factors improve your chances because you’re covering more water and the Salas swims very well side to side.

The sink: Although less than 10% of my yellowtail have bit on the sink, I have caught some of my bigger models this way. Hooking fish on the sink can be tricky and takes more concentration than hooking fish on the retrieve. I think it’s important to point the rod at the iron while it’s sinking and keep your thumb lightly on the spool so you have control and feel of the lure. The thumb on the spool is important because you can detect a bite (either the line goes slack or pays out at an inconsistent pace). Yellowtail often grab iron from the side and may not swallow the lure, it won’t take long for them to figure out it’s metal, so you have to detect the bite quickly to have a chance at hookset.

The retrieve: If the jig hits the bottom without a bite, put the reel in gear and crank. Same rules apply for hookset. Point the rod at the iron and when the line comes tight (oh what a feeling!), wind through the bite to set the hook. Be ready as most wintertime bites come a few cranks off the bottom. If the fish comes off, I’ve had more success continuing to crank, rather than free-spooling, for re-bites. The first WCW submission of 2004 was that scenario. Line came tight a few cranks off the bottom, a single headshake spit the hook, and then about 10 cranks later I got the re-bite which resulted in 31#’s of glory!

I set the hook with iron by cranking, not swinging. Too many guys detect a bite and swing at slack line and the fish spits the hook. Cranking 40# line can really get a good hookset. Having the rod pointed at the fish means you are getting the line tight directly to the reel without any bend in the rod. Once the fish starts smoking line off the reel, you can lift the rod and hang on.

I like cranking the lure all the way in for a few reasons: 1) it covers the entire water column. I’ve hooked wintertime fish ¾ of the way up. Not sure if they followed from the bottom or were mid column cruising. 2) You can calibrate your retrieve speed when the iron gets in sight. I do this a lot to make sure the iron is swimming properly. I’d say about 70% of my Salas swim correctly, the others don’t. When you find one that gets bit, mark it with red mark and take care of it. I had one magic Salas that caught 7 yellows in December. The treble ended up mangled and bent to crap, but it just got bit really well. 3) If it’s running too fast and spinning, you can let it untwist out of the water before re-casting. If you only retrieve your iron half way and drop it, and it’s spinning, you are wasting your time and creating more twist.

- Fish Patterns: My favorite topic and I think all of us have our theories and study this a lot. There definitely seems to be winter trends or patterns that hold for days/weeks at a time. This site is a great resource for seeing patterns, but nothing can beat time on the water. Once you see patterns arising, you can shift work schedules, dates, etc to be on the spot at the productive time. Here are some examples:

Dec’03-Jan’04: You could set your watch by the bite time. It was in 90-100’ of water, straight off the hotel, from 6:45am to 8am. If you were there during that time in that place you caught or saw yellows caught.

Feb’04: Lobster pots were removed from the January spot and the bite moved about 200 yds SW. Bite time was 9am. Saturday Feb. 7th there were 80 guys there at 7am. At 8:45am the birds piled up outside and 74 guys went jumbo mackerel fishing and deserted the kill zone. At 9am the fish came through right on schedule and all 6 guys that stayed hooked or caught a fish.

Jan ’05: The area wasn’t so defined, but 8am-9am was the time. General location was 110-120’ of water past the hotel where you could just see Point Loma extending outside Bird Rock. There were about 5 lobster traps there.

Dec ’05: Who can forget the “December Spot.” All you wanted for two weeks from 6:30am to 8am daily. If you didn’t want to make squid you could get there at 6:30am and find your fishing lane, and then stop fishing at 8am and paddle in.

Identifying these trends gave me the confidence to stick it out in certain areas where others would have moved on. Sticking it out paid off!

I hope you can use any of this information to get you in the right place at the right time with the right approach to feel those bursting runs, pounding headshakes and see that bright yellow stripe and tail at color, ready for gaff.

We'll let the MadAlbinoVikingScientist give us an "on-the-water" cooking tip next week.

Dennis · 04-07-2006, 12:19 PM

All hail the IronMan!!! Lots of good info, Pat!
-D

lamb · 04-07-2006, 12:32 PM

THE KING HAS SPOKEN!! 8)

Definitely worth the wait.

By far, the most comprehensive write up on yo-yo fishing I have ever read. I’ve learned a lot. THANK YOU PAT!

I did have one thing right – sticking to variety with 6x Jr colors…

bigderel · 04-07-2006, 12:46 PM

AWESOME article. Thanks!

Holy Mackerel · 04-07-2006, 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pat

Gear: This is very debatable but my personal preference and success has come from 4.9:1 gear ratio reels. Although 6:1 reels were specifically designed for yo-yoing, for some reason the fast retrieve of a Salas with a 4:9:1 Diawa Sealine-X reel is a deadly combination for yellowtail.

I set the hook with iron by cranking, not swinging.

When you find one that gets bit, mark it with red mark and take care of it. I had one magic Salas that caught 7 yellows in December.

Great Tips Pat!! Awesome insight, the above three things really stood out to me, even though the whole article kept me hanging on every word!

Thanks for the knowledge,

Chris 8)

cabojohn · 04-07-2006, 01:35 PM

Wow!
That was fantastic. Great write up.

Dan · 04-07-2006, 02:30 PM

Great! Thanks Pat!

Grego · 04-07-2006, 03:06 PM

Good stuff Pat, I've never been much of an iron man, but at least I know I've been using a good reel for it.

Grego

potto · 04-07-2006, 03:20 PM

Great tip Pat. I really like the part about...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pat

I launched after dawn with one rod

You must be the only person in LaJolla that can say that.

also the part about

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pat

long distance casts up current get more bites.

Maybe because that is the direction the fish are facing.?. In the current. My 2cnts.

tylerdurden · 04-07-2006, 03:25 PM

Great write up. Thanks for the info.

steveooo · 04-07-2006, 03:51 PM

Great write up Pat. I will put your name in the credits the fist time i boat a tail off the iron

Iceman · 04-07-2006, 07:00 PM

Pat you are the YOYO King.

Took you long enough with the tip of the week. Arne nominated you back in July of 05 :lol:

Worth the wait! I may have to cast and grind a little next week

katchfish · 04-07-2006, 08:19 PM

W O R D !!

Ken

k2rick · 04-07-2006, 09:36 PM

WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!
I learned more from this one post than in 6 months of reading all the other posts,
Thanks

Slay Rider · 04-08-2006, 03:05 AM

Good job big guy - you put your soul into that article.

Thanks
SR

LocoKayako · 04-08-2006, 01:23 PM

Pat, what an awesome write-up. This has definately given me more confidence in using the iron. I gues the most importnat thing is having confidence in what your using.

Gabe

Corey · 04-09-2006, 08:03 PM

Pat, killer write-up. That's gonna be a hard act to follow. Brad?

corey

Dean Machine · 04-11-2006, 08:30 PM

That was definitely quality information. You have obviously worked out a method that works very well with the irons. This is the kind of information that I have really been waiting for I just didn't know 'til I read it. Sometimes I wish I had more to contribute to this site. It's great reading about all the fish that are being caught because that is one of the things that keeps me going, but sometimes stuff like what you posted really helps. I have been at it since last spring and I must admit, going from fresh to salt can seem overwhelming. I am just starting to recognize some of the weather patterns, etc. associated with when the bites might happen, now I think next time I'll be closer to knowing how to perfect my presentation of the irons. I look forward to your next post.

steveooo · 02-21-2007, 05:06 PM

Bringin Back Old School. I remembered that I posted that I would give credit to Pat the first time I landed a yellow on the iron.
2-17-07
28 lbs
Thanks Pat

nmbrinkman · 02-21-2007, 05:20 PM

I can't tell you how many times I read this article here and on the OEX site. Things stuck in my head like casting up current (although I don't always know what direction the current is going, just where the wind is pushing me), reeling all the way up rather than drop it back down after a few cranks, such and so forth. I too must give Pat credit for my first winter yoyo yellow and my first YT on an Iron. Thanks Pat.

04-07-2006, 11:48 AM	#1
Pat Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 283	Pat's Tip(s) of the Week Winter + Iron = Yellowtail Many kayak fisherman have become so dependant on live bait that they have overlooked one of the best fishing weapons available – the yo-yo iron. I have to admit that it’s hard to compete with a slimy, wiggly mackerel, but quite often yellowtail, especially the big wintertime La Jolla homeguards, will strike an iron while leaving the bait untouched. La Jolla in December 2003 was a perfect example. I launched after dawn with one rod and paddled out to an area in 90 ft of water where a group of good kayak fisherman were milling around. They were slow trolling plugs and greenies, casting fish traps and crocodiles, and bounce balling mackerel for halibut. Two hours later my Salas 6x Jr. in blue & white had caught two 20# class yellowtail. Nobody else was getting bit. For whatever reason, the yellows swam by all those live baits and plastics for a small hunk of fast moving metal. I’ve caught >90% of my LJ yellows on yo-yo iron. It’s something about fooling a fish to eat an artificial lure that got me hooked (har har). Now I do it because it just plain works. Sometimes the success of yo-yo fishing seems random and unexplainable, but the real reasons behind why it works may not be so mysterious. Here are a few techniques and observations that might make you consider spending more time chuckin’ iron: - In my opinion, yo-yo fishing is playing the percentages. That iron is quickly covering the entire water column and much more territory while the guy next to you soaking live bait is confined to a small area. - Although yo-yo fishing requires more casting and cranking, you don’t have to spend time finding bait, catching bait, hooking bait, soaking bait, replenishing bait, cleaning eel grass off the bait, and finding a good bait that swims right. The iron will get you through the entire day and stay away from sea lions too! - Iron Selection and Color: A former sport boat captain told me “if you don’t catch yellows on the blue/white Salas 6x Jr., then they are not there.” Boy has that been true for La Jolla. I often see guys changing iron styles and colors after every couple casts. I don’t think that way. I fish the B/W or B/W w/ mack pattern Salas 100% of the time, because I have confidence in its fish catching ability. Other models that work well are the Ironman jigs in #3 and #5, Tady 9 and Tady 4/0. That B/W w/ mack pattern Salas 6X Jr. was responsible for a lot of WCW submissions last year. As for color, I struggle with this one. A lot of people say “match the hatch” meaning that the iron color should match the color of the bait supply in the area. If that were true, then why was the B/W Salas so successful during the infamous Dec. ’05 squid bite? On a few mornings, the B/W Salas caught more fish than live squid! It’s the action that catches the fish. - Gear: This is very debatable but my personal preference and success has come from 4.9:1 gear ratio reels. Although 6:1 reels were specifically designed for yo-yoing, for some reason the fast retrieve of a Salas with a 4:9:1 Diawa Sealine-X reel is a deadly combination for yellowtail. I’ve tried 6:1’s like the Shimano Toriums and Trinidads and the action of my Salas’s and Iron Man’s go to crap; they just twist and don’t have that seductive side to side motion with an occasional kick that I’m looking for. Another side note on those Diawa’s: Turners had them for $70 at the show. In my opinion, these reels are hands down the best yo-yo reels for the yak because of castability, drag reliability, and longevity. I’m still fishing the same XHV50 from the last 3 years, no maintenance whatsoever. For yo-yoing I like shorter, stouter rods. You don’t need a long rod for surface iron casting distance, you want backbone and pulling power to keep those deep yellows from finding trouble. I fish a 6’ 40-60# rated rod with 40# mono. I usually match the line to the middle of the rod weight, but for yo-yoing I want extra beef to slam the hook home and pull fish off the bottom quickly before it finds the bull kelp or lobster trap. I see lot’s of guys fishing rods that make the weight of the iron look like a 30# yellow. If that’s the case, the rod is way too soft and you will miss hooksets and get smoked into trouble. For line, I like straight 40# mono just because the knots are straightforward and I know the maximum amount of pressure I can apply before breakage. Yellows, unlike white sea bass, have hard mouths and jaws so you can use treble hooks and pull really hard without pulling hooks. I also like the heavier line because the fish aren’t line shy with yoyo iron and because I’m very jealous of Larry’s and Arne’s 50# class fish. I want one too! - Presentation: This is where the little things seem to make a difference. Yo-yoing by definition means dropping the lure to the bottom and retrieving as fast as possible. Some guys may drop down, jig it up and down on the bottom a few times, retrieve half way, jig it again, drop it, jig it, on and on and so on. My success has come from one style: cast as far as possible, let it sink to the bottom, and then retrieve all the way back to the rod tip. Sounds very simple and it is, but a few little things have increased my odds of success. The cast: For some reason, long distance casts up current get more bites. I don’t know why. Is it because bait swims down current, predators swim up current, glare, etc, I’m not too sure? I theorize that casting up current means you are drifting further away from your iron faster, meaning you have more line off the reel and a more horizontal retrieve angle. Both of those factors improve your chances because you’re covering more water and the Salas swims very well side to side. The sink: Although less than 10% of my yellowtail have bit on the sink, I have caught some of my bigger models this way. Hooking fish on the sink can be tricky and takes more concentration than hooking fish on the retrieve. I think it’s important to point the rod at the iron while it’s sinking and keep your thumb lightly on the spool so you have control and feel of the lure. The thumb on the spool is important because you can detect a bite (either the line goes slack or pays out at an inconsistent pace). Yellowtail often grab iron from the side and may not swallow the lure, it won’t take long for them to figure out it’s metal, so you have to detect the bite quickly to have a chance at hookset. The retrieve: If the jig hits the bottom without a bite, put the reel in gear and crank. Same rules apply for hookset. Point the rod at the iron and when the line comes tight (oh what a feeling!), wind through the bite to set the hook. Be ready as most wintertime bites come a few cranks off the bottom. If the fish comes off, I’ve had more success continuing to crank, rather than free-spooling, for re-bites. The first WCW submission of 2004 was that scenario. Line came tight a few cranks off the bottom, a single headshake spit the hook, and then about 10 cranks later I got the re-bite which resulted in 31#’s of glory! I set the hook with iron by cranking, not swinging. Too many guys detect a bite and swing at slack line and the fish spits the hook. Cranking 40# line can really get a good hookset. Having the rod pointed at the fish means you are getting the line tight directly to the reel without any bend in the rod. Once the fish starts smoking line off the reel, you can lift the rod and hang on. I like cranking the lure all the way in for a few reasons: 1) it covers the entire water column. I’ve hooked wintertime fish ¾ of the way up. Not sure if they followed from the bottom or were mid column cruising. 2) You can calibrate your retrieve speed when the iron gets in sight. I do this a lot to make sure the iron is swimming properly. I’d say about 70% of my Salas swim correctly, the others don’t. When you find one that gets bit, mark it with red mark and take care of it. I had one magic Salas that caught 7 yellows in December. The treble ended up mangled and bent to crap, but it just got bit really well. 3) If it’s running too fast and spinning, you can let it untwist out of the water before re-casting. If you only retrieve your iron half way and drop it, and it’s spinning, you are wasting your time and creating more twist. - Fish Patterns: My favorite topic and I think all of us have our theories and study this a lot. There definitely seems to be winter trends or patterns that hold for days/weeks at a time. This site is a great resource for seeing patterns, but nothing can beat time on the water. Once you see patterns arising, you can shift work schedules, dates, etc to be on the spot at the productive time. Here are some examples: Dec’03-Jan’04: You could set your watch by the bite time. It was in 90-100’ of water, straight off the hotel, from 6:45am to 8am. If you were there during that time in that place you caught or saw yellows caught. Feb’04: Lobster pots were removed from the January spot and the bite moved about 200 yds SW. Bite time was 9am. Saturday Feb. 7th there were 80 guys there at 7am. At 8:45am the birds piled up outside and 74 guys went jumbo mackerel fishing and deserted the kill zone. At 9am the fish came through right on schedule and all 6 guys that stayed hooked or caught a fish. Jan ’05: The area wasn’t so defined, but 8am-9am was the time. General location was 110-120’ of water past the hotel where you could just see Point Loma extending outside Bird Rock. There were about 5 lobster traps there. Dec ’05: Who can forget the “December Spot.” All you wanted for two weeks from 6:30am to 8am daily. If you didn’t want to make squid you could get there at 6:30am and find your fishing lane, and then stop fishing at 8am and paddle in. Identifying these trends gave me the confidence to stick it out in certain areas where others would have moved on. Sticking it out paid off! I hope you can use any of this information to get you in the right place at the right time with the right approach to feel those bursting runs, pounding headshakes and see that bright yellow stripe and tail at color, ready for gaff. We'll let the MadAlbinoVikingScientist give us an "on-the-water" cooking tip next week.

04-07-2006, 07:00 PM	#12
Iceman Administrator Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: 1-2 miles off the point Posts: 6,943	Pat you are the YOYO King. Took you long enough with the tip of the week. Arne nominated you back in July of 05 :lol: Worth the wait! I may have to cast and grind a little next week __________________

04-08-2006, 03:05 AM	#15
Slay Rider Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: 1 Posts: 108	Good job big guy - you put your soul into that article. Thanks SR __________________

04-08-2006, 01:23 PM	#16
LocoKayako Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 91	Pat, what an awesome write-up. This has definately given me more confidence in using the iron. I gues the most importnat thing is having confidence in what your using. Gabe __________________

04-11-2006, 08:30 PM	#18
Dean Machine Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: San Clemente Posts: 162	That was definitely quality information. You have obviously worked out a method that works very well with the irons. This is the kind of information that I have really been waiting for I just didn't know 'til I read it. Sometimes I wish I had more to contribute to this site. It's great reading about all the fish that are being caught because that is one of the things that keeps me going, but sometimes stuff like what you posted really helps. I have been at it since last spring and I must admit, going from fresh to salt can seem overwhelming. I am just starting to recognize some of the weather patterns, etc. associated with when the bites might happen, now I think next time I'll be closer to knowing how to perfect my presentation of the irons. I look forward to your next post. __________________ "Good luck and tight lines!"

04-07-2006, 12:19 PM	#2
Dennis Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: South of La Jolla... Posts: 1,193	All hail the IronMan!!! Lots of good info, Pat! -D

04-07-2006, 12:32 PM	#3
lamb Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 2,563	THE KING HAS SPOKEN!! 8) Definitely worth the wait. By far, the most comprehensive write up on yo-yo fishing I have ever read. I’ve learned a lot. THANK YOU PAT! I did have one thing right – sticking to variety with 6x Jr colors… __________________ [------------------------ <)))< ....b-a-a-a-a

04-07-2006, 12:46 PM	#4
bigderel UberMember Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: On the water Posts: 71	AWESOME article. Thanks!

04-07-2006, 01:35 PM	#6
cabojohn PROBATION Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 656	Wow! That was fantastic. Great write up.

04-07-2006, 02:30 PM	#7
Dan Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,053	Great! Thanks Pat!

04-07-2006, 03:06 PM	#8
Grego Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 445	Good stuff Pat, I've never been much of an iron man, but at least I know I've been using a good reel for it. Grego

04-07-2006, 03:25 PM	#10
tylerdurden Bad Clone Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 874	Great write up. Thanks for the info.

04-07-2006, 03:51 PM	#11
steveooo Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 1,921	Great write up Pat. I will put your name in the credits the fist time i boat a tail off the iron

04-07-2006, 08:19 PM	#13
katchfish Paddle for Mahi Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Doing the happy paddle! Posts: 848	W O R D !! Ken

04-07-2006, 09:36 PM	#14
k2rick Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 11	WOW!!!!!!!!!!!! I learned more from this one post than in 6 months of reading all the other posts, Thanks

04-09-2006, 08:03 PM	#17
Corey Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: ...waaaay out there Posts: 794	Pat, killer write-up. That's gonna be a hard act to follow. Brad? corey

02-21-2007, 05:06 PM	#19
steveooo Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 1,921	Bringin Back Old School. I remembered that I posted that I would give credit to Pat the first time I landed a yellow on the iron. 2-17-07 28 lbs Thanks Pat

02-21-2007, 05:20 PM	#20
nmbrinkman Work Sucks! Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: San Diego Posts: 559	I can't tell you how many times I read this article here and on the OEX site. Things stuck in my head like casting up current (although I don't always know what direction the current is going, just where the wind is pushing me), reeling all the way up rather than drop it back down after a few cranks, such and so forth. I too must give Pat credit for my first winter yoyo yellow and my first YT on an Iron. Thanks Pat.