I think I had my first GWS incounter of LJ - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

MITCHELL · 10-28-2015, 03:39 AM

I was fishing out off la jolla in 150 feet or so of water and the sealions were working me over and going under my kayak and all of the sudden this gray object catches the corner of my eye breaking the surface 10ft from my kayak I say WTF ....was that.... did not see head or tail just a grey boil it was moving fast the thought that came to mind was it was headed for me and veered off at the last second than awhile later I thought it was just a sealion and kept fishing but no.... sealions are brown this was grey and the size of a porpoise but I no it was not a porpoise by the way it moved and never surfaced again as I sit here and type this with that vision in my head I'm thinking a juvenile great white shark chasing a sealion
Anybody out there have a similar incounter and I no it was not a hammerhead

jorluivil · 10-28-2015, 06:26 AM

If it was a GWS the seals would not be around.

Geno Machino · 10-28-2015, 06:33 AM

What day was this?

MITCHELL · 10-28-2015, 07:26 AM

The middle of oct.2015

lowprofile · 10-28-2015, 07:53 AM

Great whites won't hunt seals until they are over 10ft. Even then most of the SoCal population eats fish and small grey whales. Now if there was a 9-10ft mako nearby the seals would be SOL. Those west coast makos are seal killers.

You could have also seen a very large soupfin, 7gill or a hammer. No doubt it could have been a white though, I ran into a rather large one there.

MITCHELL · 10-28-2015, 08:18 AM

I release a soup fin....why would it breach right next to my yak...

ful-rac · 10-28-2015, 08:19 AM

You never know...

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DanaPT · 10-28-2015, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by jorluivil

If it was a GWS the seals would not be around.

I disagree. I had a sea lion zig zag under my yak briefly before I saw the GWS swim by for a closer look.

No doubt in my mind on this day, the sea lion was looking for a place out of the water OR simply lead the shark to me as a diversion. It worked.

I too was chased from the water. only shark I care not to see while fishing.

MITCHELL · 10-28-2015, 08:28 AM

My new toy saving time and money making my own mackerel flys

MITCHELL · 10-28-2015, 10:28 AM

Are you in the Christmas spirit before Holloween....

chris138 · 10-28-2015, 12:10 PM

I'd say it was a white shark almost for sure. This is the time of year they are very common, as are attacks. I saw one attacking a sealion a few months back. Its hard to believe what you are seeing while its happening, but when you replay it in your head usually there's not much doubt. I can say for sure it wasn't a sevengill, soupfin, thresher, or hammer. Sounds like you have lots of hours on the water... you would've easily identified them by their behavior and appearance. Possible to mistake a mako for a white though....

Also as an aside, we do not have porpoise here. We have short-beaked common dolphin, which are often incorrectly referred to as porpoise by fishermen. Pointless detail, I know, but while we are identifying animals we might as well be consistent. Don't even get me started on the seal vs sea lion thing

MITCHELL · 10-28-2015, 12:29 PM

Like I said WTF was that....

TJones · 10-28-2015, 03:15 PM

When you have an encounter you will know . There will be no doubt in your mind . Come hang out up north .

vincentek9 · 10-28-2015, 03:40 PM

had a 12ft GWS hanging out with me for about half an hour in LJ once. i had a dead bloody YT and the blood was trickling through the scuppers. he just cruised under my yak.. then hung out for a bit. never breached water other than his fin. looked like a giant thick torpedo.

GregAndrew · 10-28-2015, 05:11 PM

Yeti or Chupacabra for sure!

2-Stix · 10-28-2015, 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TJones

When you have an encounter you will know . There will be no doubt in your mind . Come hang out up north .

Come meet "Fluffy"...the Malibu local.

MITCHELL · 10-28-2015, 07:03 PM

Would love to fish Malibu never been there trailer parks $1000 pre week can't afford that....

TINCANYAK · 10-28-2015, 10:29 PM

Three wonderful encounters these past few months: Juvenile G W breaching 3 times 30 feet away off Capo Beach. Mr. You-know-who bumpy solo ride off D P break wall and the third two weeks ago during 7 foot swell surfing the Point...6 foot juvenile cursing deep in wave peeling off in channel between point and Old Mans where I was paddling out just while I was duck diving ...definitely not a mammal. Wifey hears about it and reminds me who's visiting who...da.
Cheers to all the good times!

Dail14 · 10-29-2015, 01:01 PM

If it was a great white the seals would have abandoned you long before you spotted it or you would have seen a seal turn into a cloud of blood with half of it trying to swim away. If the shark is obviously not hunting, the seals would have been long gone before it showed up. If it was hunting you would never have seen it near the surface.

lamb · 10-29-2015, 04:17 PM

Wahoo?

10-28-2015, 03:39 AM	#1
MITCHELL Sea Hunter Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Where ever I may roam where I lay my head I call home. Posts: 2,269	I think I had my first GWS incounter of LJ I was fishing out off la jolla in 150 feet or so of water and the sealions were working me over and going under my kayak and all of the sudden this gray object catches the corner of my eye breaking the surface 10ft from my kayak I say WTF ....was that.... did not see head or tail just a grey boil it was moving fast the thought that came to mind was it was headed for me and veered off at the last second than awhile later I thought it was just a sealion and kept fishing but no.... sealions are brown this was grey and the size of a porpoise but I no it was not a porpoise by the way it moved and never surfaced again as I sit here and type this with that vision in my head I'm thinking a juvenile great white shark chasing a sealion Anybody out there have a similar incounter and I no it was not a hammerhead __________________ Duke Mitchell Last edited by MITCHELL; 10-28-2015 at 10:33 AM.

10-28-2015, 06:26 AM	#2
jorluivil Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 6,856	If it was a GWS the seals would not be around. __________________ www.facebook.com/Teamsewer

10-28-2015, 06:33 AM	#3
Geno Machino "Relax" Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: O'side Posts: 553	What day was this? __________________

10-28-2015, 07:26 AM	#4
MITCHELL Sea Hunter Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Where ever I may roam where I lay my head I call home. Posts: 2,269	The middle of oct.2015 __________________ Duke Mitchell

10-28-2015, 07:53 AM	#5
lowprofile #1 on fishstick's hitlist Join Date: May 2011 Location: Sea level Posts: 1,478	Great whites won't hunt seals until they are over 10ft. Even then most of the SoCal population eats fish and small grey whales. Now if there was a 9-10ft mako nearby the seals would be SOL. Those west coast makos are seal killers. You could have also seen a very large soupfin, 7gill or a hammer. No doubt it could have been a white though, I ran into a rather large one there. __________________ MLPA- My Largest Poaching Area

10-28-2015, 08:18 AM	#6
MITCHELL Sea Hunter Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Where ever I may roam where I lay my head I call home. Posts: 2,269	I release a soup fin....why would it breach right next to my yak... Attached Images __________________ Duke Mitchell Last edited by MITCHELL; 10-28-2015 at 10:37 AM.

10-28-2015, 08:19 AM	#7
ful-rac Emperor Join Date: May 2009 Location: Buena Park Posts: 3,649	Could've been... You never know... ! __________________ There's nothing colder than yesterday's hotdog.

10-28-2015, 08:28 AM	#9
MITCHELL Sea Hunter Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Where ever I may roam where I lay my head I call home. Posts: 2,269	My new toy saving time and money making my own mackerel flys Attached Images __________________ Duke Mitchell Last edited by MITCHELL; 10-28-2015 at 08:57 AM.

10-28-2015, 10:28 AM	#10
MITCHELL Sea Hunter Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Where ever I may roam where I lay my head I call home. Posts: 2,269	Are you in the Christmas spirit before Holloween.... Attached Images __________________ Duke Mitchell

10-28-2015, 12:10 PM	#11
chris138 donkey roper Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Pacific Beach Posts: 968	I'd say it was a white shark almost for sure. This is the time of year they are very common, as are attacks. I saw one attacking a sealion a few months back. Its hard to believe what you are seeing while its happening, but when you replay it in your head usually there's not much doubt. I can say for sure it wasn't a sevengill, soupfin, thresher, or hammer. Sounds like you have lots of hours on the water... you would've easily identified them by their behavior and appearance. Possible to mistake a mako for a white though.... Also as an aside, we do not have porpoise here. We have short-beaked common dolphin, which are often incorrectly referred to as porpoise by fishermen. Pointless detail, I know, but while we are identifying animals we might as well be consistent. Don't even get me started on the seal vs sea lion thing

10-28-2015, 12:29 PM	#12
MITCHELL Sea Hunter Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Where ever I may roam where I lay my head I call home. Posts: 2,269	Like I said WTF was that.... __________________ Duke Mitchell

10-28-2015, 03:15 PM	#13
TJones Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 2,526	You think you had an encounter ! When you have an encounter you will know . There will be no doubt in your mind . Come hang out up north .

10-28-2015, 03:40 PM	#14
vincentek9 MAYNEE-YAK Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: So Cal Posts: 533	had a 12ft GWS hanging out with me for about half an hour in LJ once. i had a dead bloody YT and the blood was trickling through the scuppers. he just cruised under my yak.. then hung out for a bit. never breached water other than his fin. looked like a giant thick torpedo. __________________

10-28-2015, 05:11 PM	#15
GregAndrew Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 2,384	Yeti or Chupacabra for sure!

10-28-2015, 07:03 PM	#17
MITCHELL Sea Hunter Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Where ever I may roam where I lay my head I call home. Posts: 2,269	Would love to fish Malibu never been there trailer parks $1000 pre week can't afford that.... __________________ Duke Mitchell

10-28-2015, 10:29 PM	#18
TINCANYAK Junior Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: San Clemente Posts: 16	Three wonderful encounters these past few months: Juvenile G W breaching 3 times 30 feet away off Capo Beach. Mr. You-know-who bumpy solo ride off D P break wall and the third two weeks ago during 7 foot swell surfing the Point...6 foot juvenile cursing deep in wave peeling off in channel between point and Old Mans where I was paddling out just while I was duck diving ...definitely not a mammal. Wifey hears about it and reminds me who's visiting who...da. Cheers to all the good times! Last edited by TINCANYAK; 10-28-2015 at 10:32 PM. Reason: typo

10-29-2015, 01:01 PM	#19
Dail14 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 123	If it was a great white the seals would have abandoned you long before you spotted it or you would have seen a seal turn into a cloud of blood with half of it trying to swim away. If the shark is obviously not hunting, the seals would have been long gone before it showed up. If it was hunting you would never have seen it near the surface.

10-29-2015, 04:17 PM	#20
lamb Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 2,563	Wahoo? __________________ [------------------------ <)))< ....b-a-a-a-a