Kayakers--BE ON ALERT - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

kayakfisherman · 02-05-2016, 03:12 PM

Brian called me with his story about his white sea bass.
I got a chill up my spine for the wrong reason.

Something happened to Brian while on the water that also
has happened to me, and maybe happened to you too...

There is a commercial fisherman on the water close to Brian
when he caught his fish. This guy, in his white 22' Cabo center
console, went into a rage. Yelling, cussing and pitching an
iron at Brian--just missing him by 10 feet.

The reason I'm writing this is because this happened to me back
in 2010 while fishing with the Darkhorse. The a_hole was in a skiff at
the time. He drove his boat right at me--cutting my lines--
as if to run me over. All the while threatening me and telling me
never to come back to La Jolla.

Brian was spooked at first and did all he could to get away from
this a-hole. Here's the sad part, a new kayakfisherman
who witnessed the assault on Brian and photographed Brian's fish
on the water, followed Brian back to shore. He basically won't go back
to La Jolla to fish again.

This guy needs to be stopped. Brian is probably going to the police.
But kayakers need to turn on their GoPros and catch this guy in
action before someone gets hurt.
Yanni, Fishermansbelly.com

Tuff guy · 02-05-2016, 03:16 PM

Did anyone catch the boats hull number, name, or a description of the boat? What an asshole

Rambo · 02-05-2016, 03:27 PM

Might be a dumb question, but could we radio in harassment to the coast guard? And ask for some assistance since he has a boat and we have no motor to get away from that douche?

Mahigeer · 02-05-2016, 03:56 PM

Can pictures be found via satellite?

jorluivil · 02-07-2016, 06:38 PM

Anyone who shoots at someone to prove a point is a dick, there is no sugar coating it. I don't give a flying fck who you are, you're a dick and you shouldn't be a gun owner. If you have an issue with some other kayaker or boater call them out and claim your space or handle it mano a mano like a man. Only pussies hide behind guns.

It's one thing to use a gun for protection, but using it to intimidate someone is completely uncalled for.

erinoo · 02-07-2016, 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jorluivil

Anyone who shoots at someone to prove a point is a dick, there is no sugar coating it. I don't give a flying fck who you are, you're a dick and you shouldn't be a gun owner. If you have an issue with some other kayaker or boater call them out and claim your space or handle it mano a mano like a man. Only pussies hide behind guns.

It's one thing to use a gun for protection, but using it to intimidate someone is completely uncalled for.

DIDO.

Jimmyz123 · 02-08-2016, 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rambo

Might be a dumb question, but could we radio in harassment to the coast guard? And ask for some assistance since he has a boat and we have no motor to get away from that douche?

Yes, and I've done it before. You can radio or call. I have have the lifeguards and Police on speed dial on my phone.

bolocop · 02-08-2016, 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimmyz123

Yes, and I've done it before. You can radio or call. I have have the lifeguards and Police on speed dial on my phone.

Can someone provide the phone numbers to the Lifeguard and the Coast Guard pertinent to this situation?

The phone numbers I've seen are general information lines or to call 911. Is there a direct line? Maybe a VHF radio is in order...

taggermike · 02-09-2016, 08:28 AM

Jimmyz123. Not a surprise the ass hole that was harassing you split when he saw you camera. Like most bullies the guy was a puss and the fun stopped when you defended yourself. I commuted by bike for years. Most drivers were cool n followed the laws. Others have their heads in their asses n don't even see you. The worst are the ones that know you can't do shit back to them and take it as a green light to bully. I've found yakking similar to biking; you're small, slow, and basicaly can't defend your self. The thing that sucks is they have the laws of physics on their side. I'd guarantee 99% of these fools would back down if they were face to face with you. Mike

momo fish · 02-05-2016, 03:56 PM

Sucks to hear.. Surprised no one has a picture or video of the boat and reported it..

A call to coast guard is also needed next time..

SDROB · 02-05-2016, 04:02 PM

Definitely report this A-Hole to the coast guard. Enough reports should get there attention.

If this happens to anyone make sure to turn on your Go-Pro's.

mrJB · 02-05-2016, 04:14 PM

MIGHT be time to pull out that flare gun pistol and MAYBE put one on his deck...

or get on Channel 16 immediately and make a call...

ctfphoto · 02-05-2016, 04:14 PM

WOW

All should be on the lookout for this behavior .... and confront it .... and report it !

I have almost been running over opening lobster night by two a-holes aiming right at me on a powerboat on purpose and laughing as they waked me.

ful-rac · 02-05-2016, 04:40 PM

Sounds like we need to start a reality show immediately...

!

makobob · 02-05-2016, 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ful-rac

Sounds like we need to start a reality show immediately...

!

Tony you bring the popcorn and I'll round up a few M80's. If that don't wake him up at least he won't catch a ghost there that night.

bolocop · 02-05-2016, 06:20 PM

So in life, I've learned a few things. One is that there's a time to be right and a time just to get away. For instance, you're in a crosswalk and have right of way and you see a truck coming against a red light, but who cares about being right in that case.

I would caution anyone to give advice here to provoke this individual or even joke about it. Unfortunately they are in a PB, motor and heft. You are in a plastic self- powered tub. I wouldn't confront anyone on the water. Maybe haul ass back to the shore and drive yourself to mission bay and wait for this guy to get back.

Sucks to hear about this but inevitable with human interaction.

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fishing md · 02-05-2016, 07:17 PM

The flyfishing community would not act this way!!!

Harry Hill · 02-05-2016, 07:41 PM

also call SD sheriff's office, report being attacked, throwing iron or lead at you is assault, even if he doesn't hit you. the potential is there. I've seen the sheriff boat in Mission a couple of times so they could roll out to LJ with ease. Let them deal with him. Most of the sheriffs I know are outdoors man and don't like those kind of jerks.

Deamon · 02-05-2016, 08:49 PM

I see him all the time. A very hard worker who's trying to make a living. Never seen him blow up though but always respectfully kept my distance. I fished on his fathers sport boat back in the day. What a good dude who ran a clean boat. Killed a lot of fish on the 60 mile with him. Jim

GregAndrew · 02-06-2016, 12:45 AM

That is one of the problems with commercial fishermen. However you came to be in "their spot", you are fishing in "their spot". And spot means anything within however far they say. Radio the authorities in channel 16 because that is assault with a potentially deadly weapon.

02-05-2016, 03:12 PM	#1
kayakfisherman Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 715	Kayakers--BE ON ALERT Brian called me with his story about his white sea bass. I got a chill up my spine for the wrong reason. Something happened to Brian while on the water that also has happened to me, and maybe happened to you too... There is a commercial fisherman on the water close to Brian when he caught his fish. This guy, in his white 22' Cabo center console, went into a rage. Yelling, cussing and pitching an iron at Brian--just missing him by 10 feet. The reason I'm writing this is because this happened to me back in 2010 while fishing with the Darkhorse. The a_hole was in a skiff at the time. He drove his boat right at me--cutting my lines-- as if to run me over. All the while threatening me and telling me never to come back to La Jolla. Brian was spooked at first and did all he could to get away from this a-hole. Here's the sad part, a new kayakfisherman who witnessed the assault on Brian and photographed Brian's fish on the water, followed Brian back to shore. He basically won't go back to La Jolla to fish again. This guy needs to be stopped. Brian is probably going to the police. But kayakers need to turn on their GoPros and catch this guy in action before someone gets hurt. Yanni, Fishermansbelly.com Last edited by kayakfisherman; 02-05-2016 at 04:33 PM.

02-07-2016, 06:38 PM	#5
jorluivil Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 6,856	Anyone who shoots at someone to prove a point is a dick, there is no sugar coating it. I don't give a flying fck who you are, you're a dick and you shouldn't be a gun owner. If you have an issue with some other kayaker or boater call them out and claim your space or handle it mano a mano like a man. Only pussies hide behind guns. It's one thing to use a gun for protection, but using it to intimidate someone is completely uncalled for. __________________ www.facebook.com/Teamsewer Last edited by jorluivil; 02-07-2016 at 07:37 PM.

02-05-2016, 04:02 PM	#11
SDROB Malibu Stealth 12 Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Hollywood, San Diego, Gonzaga Bay Posts: 512	Definitely report this A-Hole to the coast guard. Enough reports should get there attention. If this happens to anyone make sure to turn on your Go-Pro's. __________________ She will keep you warm in the winter and give you shade in the summer (Rossman) I'm telling ya, you have to keep these suckers on a game clip until just before you drop them in the frying pan.(Rossman)

02-05-2016, 04:14 PM	#12
mrJB Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: O.C. Posts: 352	MIGHT be time to pull out that flare gun pistol and MAYBE put one on his deck... or get on Channel 16 immediately and make a call... __________________ "I Brake for Halibut"

02-05-2016, 04:40 PM	#14
ful-rac Emperor Join Date: May 2009 Location: Buena Park Posts: 3,649	Sounds like we need to start a reality show immediately... ! __________________ There's nothing colder than yesterday's hotdog.

02-05-2016, 03:16 PM	#2
Tuff guy Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 137	Did anyone catch the boats hull number, name, or a description of the boat? What an asshole

02-05-2016, 03:27 PM	#3
Rambo Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: West Covina, CA Posts: 434	Might be a dumb question, but could we radio in harassment to the coast guard? And ask for some assistance since he has a boat and we have no motor to get away from that douche?

02-05-2016, 03:56 PM	#4
Mahigeer Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,897	Can pictures be found via satellite?

02-09-2016, 08:28 AM	#9
taggermike Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Chula Vista Posts: 1,589	Jimmyz123. Not a surprise the ass hole that was harassing you split when he saw you camera. Like most bullies the guy was a puss and the fun stopped when you defended yourself. I commuted by bike for years. Most drivers were cool n followed the laws. Others have their heads in their asses n don't even see you. The worst are the ones that know you can't do shit back to them and take it as a green light to bully. I've found yakking similar to biking; you're small, slow, and basicaly can't defend your self. The thing that sucks is they have the laws of physics on their side. I'd guarantee 99% of these fools would back down if they were face to face with you. Mike

02-05-2016, 03:56 PM	#10
momo fish Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Camarillo Posts: 1,491	Sucks to hear.. Surprised no one has a picture or video of the boat and reported it.. A call to coast guard is also needed next time..

02-05-2016, 04:14 PM	#13
ctfphoto Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: San Diego Posts: 901	WOW All should be on the lookout for this behavior .... and confront it .... and report it ! I have almost been running over opening lobster night by two a-holes aiming right at me on a powerboat on purpose and laughing as they waked me.

02-05-2016, 06:20 PM	#16
bolocop Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 332	Kayakers--BE ON ALERT So in life, I've learned a few things. One is that there's a time to be right and a time just to get away. For instance, you're in a crosswalk and have right of way and you see a truck coming against a red light, but who cares about being right in that case. I would caution anyone to give advice here to provoke this individual or even joke about it. Unfortunately they are in a PB, motor and heft. You are in a plastic self- powered tub. I wouldn't confront anyone on the water. Maybe haul ass back to the shore and drive yourself to mission bay and wait for this guy to get back. Sucks to hear about this but inevitable with human interaction. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

02-05-2016, 07:17 PM	#17
fishing md Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: redlands Posts: 237	The flyfishing community would not act this way!!! __________________ ---

02-05-2016, 07:41 PM	#18
Harry Hill Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Yucaipa, CA Posts: 1,136	also call SD sheriff's office, report being attacked, throwing iron or lead at you is assault, even if he doesn't hit you. the potential is there. I've seen the sheriff boat in Mission a couple of times so they could roll out to LJ with ease. Let them deal with him. Most of the sheriffs I know are outdoors man and don't like those kind of jerks.

02-05-2016, 08:49 PM	#19
Deamon Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,972	I see him all the time. A very hard worker who's trying to make a living. Never seen him blow up though but always respectfully kept my distance. I fished on his fathers sport boat back in the day. What a good dude who ran a clean boat. Killed a lot of fish on the 60 mile with him. Jim __________________ Recreational Fisherman's Catch...2% Commercial Fisherman's Catch- 98% Recreational Fishing Kayakers Catch- .00001% "The reality is that the wall was built to keep all Asians ~specifically Japanese and those that think they're japanese~ out of the U.S"

02-06-2016, 12:45 AM	#20
GregAndrew Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 2,384	That is one of the problems with commercial fishermen. However you came to be in "their spot", you are fishing in "their spot". And spot means anything within however far they say. Radio the authorities in channel 16 because that is assault with a potentially deadly weapon.