Mako's

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the thing about chumming of the yak is.... i WONT do it. even just a sports bottle with fish oil to get the bait going. we used to fish sharks alot. and it was alot of dead baiting with large mackerel and chunks of Bones under ballons and a Chum bucket over the side. to many time was the boat rocked by a shark (especially blues) attacking the chum bucket. my prefered method for this would be to troll two mackerel. one at the surface with a purple and black squid skirt and the other down 40 or more feet with a bright orange and red skirt or pink and blue.

the biggest mako i've personally landed was just over 6ft. no breath taker or record breaker but it was fun. caught and landed my first when i was 6. a 5 fter out of oceanside on the troll with a 8/0 and 60lb mono. yes i hooked and fought the fish. my dad gaffed it at the side of the boat.

for a shark (blues or makos) as long as its around 6ft or smaller is doable on the yak no problem. anything around 7ft would require help and an 8fter or more we'd be lucky to survive.

[bus kid]

Originally Posted by WahooUSMA

If I am available, I'll bring the boat.....let me know!

When your Available let me know I'll bring the kayak.

[Aaron&Julie]

Like I said, Julie and my brain prevailed when we had just small makos hooked off of La Jolla.
Even with a gun, assuming that the gun killed it completely, is there a kayaker willing to do this alone?
OK. Now, that you've got company, what is the other person going to do for you when that mako wants to impress you with his ability to land on your kayak, eat your nuts, and tell you he doesn't want to play anymore.
It's not an impossible feat from the kayak, but who really needs to prove their manhood that way?
Don't be stupid. I too, don't want to read about your results, bad (most likely) or good.

[silverbullet]

Originally Posted by Aaron&Julie

....when that mako wants to impress you with his ability to land on your kayak, eat your nuts, and tell you he doesn't want to play anymore.......

LMAO.... I picked up a Soup-fin that nearly did just that to me...I was working on carefully getting my rig back and he gave a kick... nearly came teeth first into my lap. My reaction was to pull the line back and out holding him away from my jewels.

After I stopped screaming like a girl (not really but it was scary) many jokes about girls with bad teeth came to mind. (Ie: apple test)

I wouldn't recommend targeting aggressive sharks unless you are prepared and if prepared you may still get hurt. We used to shoot big fish in AK before bringing them aboard so they would not smash up the boat... seems harder to do from a YAK....

Definately post pictures here and at Failblog.

[Fiskadoro]

Originally Posted by Aaron&Julie

OK. Now, that you've got company, what is the other person going to do for you when that mako wants to impress you with his ability to land on your kayak, eat your nuts, and tell you he doesn't want to play anymore......

Yeah I was thinking the same thing.

Say you're with a group of kayakers, fishing on a sit on top yak, and a hooked Mako jumps right into you open mouthed and rips through an arm or leg right down to the bone severing vital arteries and tendons. Well I guess the good news is you'll have someone to tow you in, but it's not going to stop you from bleeding to death before they get you in or before someone can get out there to help you. Fishing in a crowd is not going to make it any safer.

Here's a few vids...



That's just a small one but notice how it comes right towards the boat skimming and jumping out of the water. A boats big enough that it can see and then avoid it but a kayak is not going to scare it off.



That's a decent fish, and a classic hookup and mako video. Go to 2 minutes and see what happens when they hook it. Though it initially takes off and runs out to maybe seventy five yards it then comes right back and almost jumps into the boat. Once again the boat is big enough to scare it off but a yak to that size mako is nothing. Look how high it's going into the air. If a shark that size landed on top of you after one of those jumps even closed mouth it would break bones, severely injure you and probably completely destroy your yak.

Look how many times he jumps in the 60 seconds they have him on. 12 times averaging maybe ten feet up in the air each time and he covers a lot of ground while doing it. Now imagine fishing in a crowd of sit on tops kayaks. Not only would you be at risk of getting jumped on, but anyone in the crowd might get hit and he moves so fast and so erratically that there is no way to predict where he's going or get out of his way.

Like I said I've fished a lot of Makos and I have fished sharks in general since I was a kid. Any other sharks Bulls, Tigers, even Hammerheads would not be a big deal to catch from a yak, but Makos because they can and often do act so crazy would be dangerous to hunt from a kayak, especially a sit on top where your body is completely unprotected and exposed.

I mean I'm not adverse to taking risk. I fish small boats way offshore and spend most of my time yakking alone. The deal is have to think strategically and there are lines you just do not cross. I've considered fishing Makos from the yak but I'd wear leather and I should of said this earlier but I would also fish them from my sit inside where my legs would be protected.

Still I'd say it's kind of like Russian roulette. The odds are that the first time you pull that trigger your not going to blow your head off but do it enough you will end up getting hurt. I'm sure guys could fish makos on sit on tops, and they probably will not get hurt the first time, but eventually if they kept doing it without some kind of protective gear, and the proper equipment, Id' say the odds will eventually catch up with them and someones going to end up getting seriously injured.

Jim

[Fiskadoro]

Originally Posted by fish doctor

yes jim you have seen my boat i fished with larry for years targeting makos once these guys see what even a small mako can do boatside they will figure out makos are a bad idea out of a yak my largest i ever kept was 250 and it took over an hour to land on my 23ft center console on 60lb line it also took four hours to clean and package
we only keep one a year now and males only with a max of 150lb weight

Cool!! Thought I recognized it.

If you've fished with Larry you have fished with one of the best. Larry is an amazing angler, killer shark fisherman, and just a great guy as well. I hardly ever see him any more since I don't fish MDR like I used to and usually make my own bait when I do.

I hear you on keeping them. Noticed it was a Male, great eating that size, definitely the right shark to target for the table.

About the only sharks I take now are ones that get a hook in the gills or Ts that die online. Last big one I took was a T over 300, and the packaging alone took a good part of a day.

Jim

[mtnbykr2]

Thanks for sharin the videos...cool stuff, on a boat!...in a yak if one of those took to the sky and landed in your lap would not be pretty...

[Luis_Ochoa]

here is another one.!!

[Fiskadoro]

Originally Posted by Luis_Ochoa

here is another one.!!

Spinner shark.

Those are inshore coastal sharks that feed on small fish and crustaceans. I've caught them. They are a lot like a overgrown blacktip. They do jump but they have small teeth and are not anywhere as dangerous as Makos. I'd feel perfectly comfortable targeting those from a kayak. Imagine a soupfin that jumps, and you get the picture.

Jim

[Luis_Ochoa]

well it's a jumping spinner shark , in one of those jumps if it hit you, somebody is going to be in the water... looking at the other videos you posted, it's something to think about...



saludos,

[Aaron&Julie]

I'd take an errant Spinner knocking me off my 'yak, over a mean-ass Mako, anyday. Jim, whereabouts did you hook your Spinner? Aren't they an East Coast shark?

[Fiskadoro]

Originally Posted by Aaron&Julie

I'd take an errant Spinner knocking me off my 'yak, over a mean-ass Mako, anyday. Jim, whereabouts did you hook your Spinner? Aren't they an East Coast shark?

Gulf.

Grew up in Texas fishing inshore sharks up and down the Gulf coast. Spinners are not as common as blacktips but I've got them at both North and South Padre Island.

I've always been nuts about catching big fish and sharks were about the biggest thing we could catch when I was a kid without a boat. I could tell you some stories. I saw some big sharks caught off Padre in the late seventies.

Jim

[T Bone]

I won the Flyfishing for Mako's Trip with Conway Bowman at the raffle for the SMMT in 2010.I was going to sell the trip(Not into flyfishing)but then decided to go and book it.I called in July but he was booked through the year.He said to call and book for this year,so I have that to look forward too.Catch and release only.

My biggest mako is only a gup of about 25# that I released.

I say what the hell,lets just chum off San O and accidentally hook up to mighty whitey

[yaky yak]

I caught several T-sharks, I think they look like puppy dogs in the water. Once I was fishing for rockfish over the canyon, I was using those rock cod flys tipped with squid, and a big heavy jig on the end to get it to the depths. I was re- baiting the several fly hooks, and the jig was dangling off the side of my prowler.
Out of nowhere a Small Mako hit the jig and went crazy. I had the drag pretty tight and this caused the Mako when he jumped to fly into the yak. It was happening so quick and so much mayham my brain couldn't register what was going on. Several times I had to deflect the shark with my paddle as he flew into my face. The rod was still in the holder all this time. I finely had the piece of mind to loosing the drag so the fish would get a way from the yak. I fought him for a while and when he was nexted to me in the water i could see this wasn't no puppy dog, it looked mean. I towed him around not knowing how to get him in the kayak. Out of nowhere Darkhorse showed up and helped me gaff him. Two gaffs to the head. The embarrassing part of this tale is the shark was less then 50 lbs(OK 35lbs).
I often wonder what would of happened if on of those hooks had went in my hand. I had the last laugh as I bar b qued him the next night.
Do I want to go out and target a 250lber from a kayak? Hell no. I'd rather poke a polar bear with a short stick.

[fish doctor]

i think you guys should try catching one from a boat first to get a real understanding of what your dealing with.
these fish are not anything like a tresher or blue. they are totally unpredictable and quite dangerous.
and once gaffed they are not done. they are a high risk until the spinal cord is cut and the head is overboard

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Originally Posted by T Bone

I won the Flyfishing for Mako's Trip with Conway Bowman at the raffle for the SMMT in 2010.I was going to sell the trip(Not into flyfishing)but then decided to go and book it.I called in July but he was booked through the year.He said to call and book for this year,so I have that to look forward too.Catch and release only.

My biggest mako is only a gup of about 25# that I released.

I say what the hell,lets just chum off San O and accidentally hook up to mighty whitey

if i didnt find anything in a couple trips i was going to try to enlist the help of Conway and/or Michelle. seeing as how they both board fish and he's caught sharks off the board and im sure Michelle has too.

I forgot to mention I'm a definite yes.

[Devildawgjj]

Originally Posted by fish doctor

i think you guys should try catching one from a boat first to get a real understanding of what your dealing with.

That box has been checked......Now it's yak time!!

Standing by for Mako's