Paddle and Pedal Speed - Page 2 - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

jorluivil · 08-31-2015, 08:13 PM

Are these guys peddling, paddling or boarding?

RockyRaab · 09-01-2015, 07:56 AM

ful-rac, good sir.

Yes, pedal versus peddle does bother me. Because one is right and the other is wrong.

Spelling matters; it's the difference between getting a rental and a rectal.

chris138 · 09-01-2015, 08:39 AM

Unless you're talking about the hobie adventure, a SLEEK paddling kayak will smoke a hobie in nearly all cases (assuming experienced paddler). I can average 5 mph in my prowler 15 pretty much indefinitely in good wind conditions. Sprints get up to 6-7 mph. Downwind surfing can get up to 10, which isn't quite fast enough to catch open water swell.

But the max hull speed is not the critical factor, the bigger difference is the amount of effort that it takes to maintain a slow trolling speed is much less for a hobie. Its all about the hull shape and planing speed. Prowler can go slow very efficiently, and doesn't need to be on plane to have less resistance due to the bow/stern shape.

I also fish an x-factor which is a complete turd, but it can carry 600 freaking pounds. It has such high volume displacement and the bottom is almost flat, so it actually planes out at a pretty low speed. But to get it to 5 mph is very difficult.

They make kayaks in South Africa that can average 6-7 mph, and catch open ocean swells getting upwards of 15 mph max.

jorluivil · 09-01-2015, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by RockyRaab

ful-rac, good sir.

Yes, pedal versus peddle does bother me. Because one is right and the other is wrong.

Spelling matters; it's the difference between getting a rental and a rectal.

bad spelling can be as bad as a weak analogy.

You don't walk into a rental company asking for a rectal. However, you can walk into OEX or send them an email asking for the price on those peddle things for Hobie kayaks and they'll know exactly what you're talking about.

RockyRaab · 09-01-2015, 09:12 AM

Well, of course. The good folks at OEX (whom I've never met) are too smart to laugh in your face and call you an illiterate doofus for using "peddle".

But maybe they do in the lunch room.

jorluivil · 09-01-2015, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by RockyRaab

Well, of course. The good folks at OEX (whom I've never met) are too smart to laugh in your face and call you an illiterate doofus for using "peddle".

But maybe they do in the lunch room.

Where's that popcorn bag.........................

ful-rac · 09-01-2015, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by RockyRaab

Well, of course. The good folks at OEX (whom I've never met) are too smart to laugh in your face and call you an illiterate doofus for using "peddle".

But maybe they do in the lunch room.

For educating the masses one insult at a time! Thanks man! I will be sure to tell everybody that they are petaling there hobbys nott peddleing tham fore nowe on.

Mr. NiceGuy · 09-01-2015, 10:49 AM

Beware of the peddlephiles

ful-rac · 09-01-2015, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. NiceGuy

Beware of the peddlephiles

Hey! Watch it!!!

Its Petalphiles!!!

RockyRaab · 09-01-2015, 01:22 PM

Someone who uses improper English doesn't need me to insult them; it's self-inflicted.

My apologies to the original poster for derailing his thread. (Especially as he used the words correctly.)

jruiz · 09-01-2015, 01:45 PM

Correcting a child's spelling or grammar is helpful and considerate. Correcting a grown adult's is perceived differently. What would you do if someone walked over to you at a sushi restaurant and tried to correct your usage of chopsticks?

HobieScot · 09-01-2015, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by jruiz

Correcting a child's spelling or grammar is helpful and considerate. Correcting a grown adult's is perceived differently. What would you do if someone walked over to you at a sushi restaurant and tried to correct your usage of chopsticks?

I would say what are you talking about? There are two chopsticks. One for each hand right? 😜

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jorluivil · 09-01-2015, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by HobieScot

I would say what are you talking about? There are two chopsticks. One for each hand right? ��

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bahahahahaha!!!!! good one!!!

Mr. NiceGuy · 09-01-2015, 03:19 PM

Manly fishermen talk like pirates, circa 2015, including lots of slang. Who cares how it's speled?

Mr. NiceGuy · 09-01-2015, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ful-rac

Hey! Watch it!!!

Its Petalphiles!!!

Yeah!

I like flowers too!

TJones · 09-01-2015, 03:35 PM

any reasonable offer will be considered .

TJones · 09-01-2015, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by chris138

Unless you're talking about the hobie adventure, a SLEEK paddling kayak will smoke a hobie in nearly all cases (assuming experienced paddler). I can average 5 mph in my prowler 15 pretty much indefinitely in good wind conditions. Sprints get up to 6-7 mph. Downwind surfing can get up to 10, which isn't quite fast enough to catch open water swell.

But the max hull speed is not the critical factor, the bigger difference is the amount of effort that it takes to maintain a slow trolling speed is much less for a hobie. Its all about the hull shape and planing speed. Prowler can go slow very efficiently, and doesn't need to be on plane to have less resistance due to the bow/stern shape.

I also fish an x-factor which is a complete turd, but it can carry 600 freaking pounds. It has such high volume displacement and the bottom is almost flat, so it actually planes out at a pretty low speed. But to get it to 5 mph is very difficult.

They make kayaks in South Africa that can average 6-7 mph, and catch open ocean swells getting upwards of 15 mph max.

thats cold blooded . them dudes is fighting for their lives .

TJones · 09-01-2015, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by TJones

any reasonable offer will be considered .

and accessories .

maquinapescado · 09-01-2015, 07:30 PM

Thanks you to those who constructively contributed and to those who destructively contributed (good for some laughs).

The gist of what I got is there isn't a huge difference in more streamline yaks in regards to speed. There are little nuances but nothing major.

Now I just have to decide if shelling out for a new one with all the latest changes is worth it compared to buying a 13' or 14'...........

Cadillyak · 09-01-2015, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ful-rac

PA is a great kayak/Boat, make sure to get the 14...cause if your gonna get the PA you might as well get the PA...Unless you have transport or storage issues.

Well I have storage issues thus my PA12. If u can, def go 14! I love my 12 though. So much that I've never taken out my outback.

08-31-2015, 08:13 PM	#21
jorluivil Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 6,856	Are these guys peddling, paddling or boarding? __________________ www.facebook.com/Teamsewer

09-01-2015, 10:49 AM	#28
Mr. NiceGuy Manic for Life Join Date: May 2015 Location: San Diego Posts: 839	Beware of the peddlephiles __________________ Another ho-hum day in Paradise

09-01-2015, 03:19 PM	#34
Mr. NiceGuy Manic for Life Join Date: May 2015 Location: San Diego Posts: 839	Manly fishermen talk like pirates, circa 2015, including lots of slang. Who cares how it's speled? __________________ Another ho-hum day in Paradise

09-01-2015, 03:35 PM	#36
TJones Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 2,526	2014 Pa 12 dune lightly used any reasonable offer will be considered .

09-01-2015, 07:56 AM	#22
RockyRaab Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Utah Posts: 138	ful-rac, good sir. Yes, pedal versus peddle does bother me. Because one is right and the other is wrong. Spelling matters; it's the difference between getting a rental and a rectal.

09-01-2015, 08:39 AM	#23
chris138 donkey roper Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Pacific Beach Posts: 968	Unless you're talking about the hobie adventure, a SLEEK paddling kayak will smoke a hobie in nearly all cases (assuming experienced paddler). I can average 5 mph in my prowler 15 pretty much indefinitely in good wind conditions. Sprints get up to 6-7 mph. Downwind surfing can get up to 10, which isn't quite fast enough to catch open water swell. But the max hull speed is not the critical factor, the bigger difference is the amount of effort that it takes to maintain a slow trolling speed is much less for a hobie. Its all about the hull shape and planing speed. Prowler can go slow very efficiently, and doesn't need to be on plane to have less resistance due to the bow/stern shape. I also fish an x-factor which is a complete turd, but it can carry 600 freaking pounds. It has such high volume displacement and the bottom is almost flat, so it actually planes out at a pretty low speed. But to get it to 5 mph is very difficult. They make kayaks in South Africa that can average 6-7 mph, and catch open ocean swells getting upwards of 15 mph max.

09-01-2015, 09:12 AM	#25
RockyRaab Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Utah Posts: 138	Well, of course. The good folks at OEX (whom I've never met) are too smart to laugh in your face and call you an illiterate doofus for using "peddle". But maybe they do in the lunch room.

09-01-2015, 01:22 PM	#30
RockyRaab Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Utah Posts: 138	Someone who uses improper English doesn't need me to insult them; it's self-inflicted. My apologies to the original poster for derailing his thread. (Especially as he used the words correctly.)

09-01-2015, 01:45 PM	#31
jruiz Large Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: La Verne, CA Posts: 1,011	Correcting a child's spelling or grammar is helpful and considerate. Correcting a grown adult's is perceived differently. What would you do if someone walked over to you at a sushi restaurant and tried to correct your usage of chopsticks?

09-01-2015, 07:30 PM	#39
maquinapescado Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Posts: 326	Thanks you to those who constructively contributed and to those who destructively contributed (good for some laughs). The gist of what I got is there isn't a huge difference in more streamline yaks in regards to speed. There are little nuances but nothing major. Now I just have to decide if shelling out for a new one with all the latest changes is worth it compared to buying a 13' or 14'...........