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Deamon · 03-17-2015, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBentRod

Yeah Chuck. I want to go to the lobster hole too!

Stan...The MAN! Tell Chuckie...I'm a giver. Now give me that lobster spot ChuckieDee!

EaCyak · 03-17-2015, 07:11 PM

Live and let live

If the seals where gone bait and fish will likely be taken from our kayaks in this manner.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...&v=hu8JVyidcMI

captnblood34 · 03-17-2015, 08:17 PM

X2 mike haha

Chuck D · 03-17-2015, 08:44 PM

I will show u guys where it is but you have to use the special bait...

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driftwood · 03-17-2015, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by jorluivil

Funny, we move into their territory and all of a sudden we're the victims.

That's like building a house on the foothills and then complaining that coyotes and bears are eating your pets.

Very good analogy.

jorluivil · 03-17-2015, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck D

I will show u guys where it is but you have to use the special bait...

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Chuck, I gave Deacon a limit of lobster, don't let him con you into anything.

TheBentRod · 03-17-2015, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by jorluivil

Chuck, I gave Deacon a limit of lobster, don't let him con you into anything.

George, where the heck is mine? I am going to go with you guys next year. For sure this time!!

johnnyblaze2009 · 03-17-2015, 10:01 PM

I was at Bolsa Chica this weekend with my kids and funny thing was that we seen a dead adult seal on the shore. But off to the side on the jetty rocks was a seal pup that looked tired and hungry. In no way did I try to help it but through my kids I had to feel sorry for his condition. My kids asked me to call the beach patrol and report the baby seal, and for my kids sake I did. The operator told me that it was reported and someone was in route to pick up the dead seal and the pup. I have my own opinions about fishing a hot bite and seals are present and I think we're all in agreement. Kinda like being a charger fan at a raider game- they get annoying. But life is life, and in public places like the beach I wouldn't want to sit there and act like it doesn't bother me. If it was a beached whale or dolphin- I'm sure we'd all try to help it. #justmytwocents

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Deamon · 03-18-2015, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by jorluivil

I gave Deacon a limit of lobster, don't let him con you into anything.

Did he just...oh no he di-int...

SorryCharlie · 03-18-2015, 04:40 PM

Let me start off by saying while I do not LOVE sea lions, I do not wish ALL of them dead because they steal my bait or fish. I hate them because people feel they require protection in areas where their populations are healthy, but they are cute so they require this "extra" protection (or starving... most likely due to limited food because of overpopulation and some of our shananigans of course).

There has been some mention of children's pool, but that location was BUILT for... you guessed it CHILDRED. Not seal lions, which are now receiving additional protection at CHILDERNS pool because they have taken over this artificially protected area (again, it was protected so CHILDREN could safely play there) for their own. Additionally, due to the overpopulation of sea lions at childrens pool, SD county spends money (not sure how much or the frequency, but I would assume it is not negligible) to clean the sh#^ left by the sea lions. If they didn't clean it, guess what... the businesses in LJ would suffer, as I am sure some already have do to the smell (my family and I had PLANNED to eat at a restaurant near the area, but couldn't because the smell was horrible on their patio due to the sea lions... and I mean HORRIBLE).

Notice how SD county alone has saved more sea lions then all of the counties up the coast to SF combined......... looks a bit telling doesn't it. I am not saying we should have free range to kill/reduce SL numbers, but I don't think they need extra protection.......

GregAndrew · 03-18-2015, 07:28 PM

A different Animal altogether.

Children's Pool is full of Harbor Seals, not Sea Lions. Although you probably can't tell the difference by the smell. I would agree that turning that man made cove into a sanctuary is just as bad as rehabilitating all sick Sea Lions. In both cases they are aiding overpopulation which is never good for the ecosystem.

As far as fishing goes, they are very far apart on the nuisance meter. You are rarely going to have a Harbor Seal take your bait. And, I have not heard of or experienced any aggressive behavior from them.

I would bet that the reason San Diego is able to rehab more sea life than any other county would be the presence of Sea World's rehab facilities. Most other counties have to rely on their under-funded, under-staffed and under-trained animal control officers. Personally, I don't hold anything against Sea World. They do some great work in saving and rehabilitating other, more likeable, marine mamals. I also agree that we should intervene, if we can, in human caused animal ailments, even in Sea Lions.

The supposed collapse of the Sardine population (probably brought to you by the MLPA scientists) was blown way out of proportion also. There is lots of other inshore bait fish all over the South Coast. Even with tons of bait fish, there are lots of Sea Lions, mostly young ones, dying in the Redondo area. Probably for the same reason that we must get burned to learn. After a few good Squid years, there are also a lot of new Sea Lion mothers too.

taggermike · 03-19-2015, 08:37 AM

Seaworld is backed in to a PR corner no business wants to be in. They've been saving Seals/sea lions a long time. Since back when these animals may have actually needed help. Its been a big PR boost for decades. Now, do so cal pinnipeds need help? Many think not. But if SW stops saving them it will look like they are failing to do their job. Or twisted to appear that SW is actively killing seals n sea lions. One story gets on the news about how SW failed to respond to a stranded seal call and they're gonna have another PR disaster they can't afford. Mike

03-17-2015, 07:11 PM	#22
EaCyak Junior Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 4	Live and let live If the seals where gone bait and fish will likely be taken from our kayaks in this manner. https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...&v=hu8JVyidcMI

03-17-2015, 08:17 PM	#23
captnblood34 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Otay Posts: 704	X2 mike haha

03-17-2015, 08:44 PM	#24
Chuck D Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Bay Park Posts: 559	I will show u guys where it is but you have to use the special bait... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

03-17-2015, 10:01 PM	#28
johnnyblaze2009 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 215	I was at Bolsa Chica this weekend with my kids and funny thing was that we seen a dead adult seal on the shore. But off to the side on the jetty rocks was a seal pup that looked tired and hungry. In no way did I try to help it but through my kids I had to feel sorry for his condition. My kids asked me to call the beach patrol and report the baby seal, and for my kids sake I did. The operator told me that it was reported and someone was in route to pick up the dead seal and the pup. I have my own opinions about fishing a hot bite and seals are present and I think we're all in agreement. Kinda like being a charger fan at a raider game- they get annoying. But life is life, and in public places like the beach I wouldn't want to sit there and act like it doesn't bother me. If it was a beached whale or dolphin- I'm sure we'd all try to help it. #justmytwocents Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

03-18-2015, 04:40 PM	#30
SorryCharlie Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Carlsbad Posts: 140	Let me start off by saying while I do not LOVE sea lions, I do not wish ALL of them dead because they steal my bait or fish. I hate them because people feel they require protection in areas where their populations are healthy, but they are cute so they require this "extra" protection (or starving... most likely due to limited food because of overpopulation and some of our shananigans of course). There has been some mention of children's pool, but that location was BUILT for... you guessed it CHILDRED. Not seal lions, which are now receiving additional protection at CHILDERNS pool because they have taken over this artificially protected area (again, it was protected so CHILDREN could safely play there) for their own. Additionally, due to the overpopulation of sea lions at childrens pool, SD county spends money (not sure how much or the frequency, but I would assume it is not negligible) to clean the sh#^ left by the sea lions. If they didn't clean it, guess what... the businesses in LJ would suffer, as I am sure some already have do to the smell (my family and I had PLANNED to eat at a restaurant near the area, but couldn't because the smell was horrible on their patio due to the sea lions... and I mean HORRIBLE). Notice how SD county alone has saved more sea lions then all of the counties up the coast to SF combined......... looks a bit telling doesn't it. I am not saying we should have free range to kill/reduce SL numbers, but I don't think they need extra protection.......

03-18-2015, 07:28 PM	#31
GregAndrew Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 2,384	A different Animal altogether. Children's Pool is full of Harbor Seals, not Sea Lions. Although you probably can't tell the difference by the smell. I would agree that turning that man made cove into a sanctuary is just as bad as rehabilitating all sick Sea Lions. In both cases they are aiding overpopulation which is never good for the ecosystem. As far as fishing goes, they are very far apart on the nuisance meter. You are rarely going to have a Harbor Seal take your bait. And, I have not heard of or experienced any aggressive behavior from them. I would bet that the reason San Diego is able to rehab more sea life than any other county would be the presence of Sea World's rehab facilities. Most other counties have to rely on their under-funded, under-staffed and under-trained animal control officers. Personally, I don't hold anything against Sea World. They do some great work in saving and rehabilitating other, more likeable, marine mamals. I also agree that we should intervene, if we can, in human caused animal ailments, even in Sea Lions. The supposed collapse of the Sardine population (probably brought to you by the MLPA scientists) was blown way out of proportion also. There is lots of other inshore bait fish all over the South Coast. Even with tons of bait fish, there are lots of Sea Lions, mostly young ones, dying in the Redondo area. Probably for the same reason that we must get burned to learn. After a few good Squid years, there are also a lot of new Sea Lion mothers too.

03-19-2015, 08:37 AM	#32
taggermike Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Chula Vista Posts: 1,589	Seaworld is backed in to a PR corner no business wants to be in. They've been saving Seals/sea lions a long time. Since back when these animals may have actually needed help. Its been a big PR boost for decades. Now, do so cal pinnipeds need help? Many think not. But if SW stops saving them it will look like they are failing to do their job. Or twisted to appear that SW is actively killing seals n sea lions. One story gets on the news about how SW failed to respond to a stranded seal call and they're gonna have another PR disaster they can't afford. Mike